Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Douglemeister/Archive

Report date January 29 2009, 03:02 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets:


 * Evidence submitted by CassiasMunch (talk)

User:Douglemeister began editing related articles shortly after IP 71.139.47.130 is blocked for vandalism, and edits similar articles. User:Douglemeister is reported for vandalism and WP:3RR. User:Pennester edits same articles, similar POV stance. User and talk pages similar in appearance at the time report is filed.


 * Ralph Nader
 * Gavin Newsom
 * Eric Mar
 * Barack Obama-related articles
 * San Francisco-related and political articles with similar POV.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Griot_(2nd) CassiasMunch (talk) 03:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Ã¢ÂÂPreceding unsigned comment added by CassiasMunch (talk Ã¢ÂÂ¢ contribs) 03:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users
 * A very cursory examination of each account's contribs reveals striking similarities (if this is unclear, I can email specifics). -kotra (talk) 05:45, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit summaries look suspiciously similar too (e.g. "eds", "correx", etc.). Worth a check I'd have thought - Griot (first time I've come across him) sounds like he's caused trouble before.  Cheers, --P LUMBAGO  08:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That actually was what I was referring to (in a vague way). -kotra (talk) 17:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Requested by CassiasMunch (talk) 03:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

please provide a code letter if you believe a checkuser is required. Mayalld (talk) 11:00, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * It looks like a code B to me. But I'll wait for case initiator to state the code. OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I actually thought D, very possibly E. CassiasMunch (talk) 06:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * ✅ =  = . Based on the Griot RFCU, I'd say it's ✅ that these accounts are . Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 19:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Blocked all 3 sock accounts. IP not blocked as it appears to be dynamic and last edit/vandalism occurred more than half a month ago. OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Report date January 31 2009, 23:53 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets



CassiasMunch (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by CassiasMunch (talk)

I recently filed a WP:SSP report with Check User request for User:Douglemeister. Given recent activity, edits, I am beginning to suspect User:Thejka is User:Douglemeister aka User:Griot. Edits are also political, left/Democratic leaning, focus on Ralph Nader and related articles. First edits out are to Ralph Nader, similar to User:Douglemeister aka User:Griot. User page, again, similar in appearance to User:Douglemeister and User:Pennester, with "Hello. Likes: Obama. USA. CM Punk. Rey Mysterio. Booster Gold. Spider-Man. Superheroes and comics in general. Dislikes: Ralph Nader. Ron Paul. Michael Phelps." User:Thejka re-emerged to heavy activity on Ralph Nader talk page after User:Douglemeister is banned for sockpuppetry. CassiasMunch (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.
 * Shows you how much I know, I originally put my defense in my talk page because I has no idea about this page! I mainly have been editing pro wrestling and comic book articles, but I really enjoy politics, so I often read about it and add references or info to articles I am reading. I had a strong belief about that Altantic article being in the recognition, without the quote if needed. I pressed on it because I felt that way, not because I am sockpuppet or something. It is mere coincidence. I happen to be the one who originally who readded the quote in November, just as Kotra said. In November, someone took out part of the whole quote, so I added the whole quote. If you need any more proof, just tell me. I changed this a bit in accordance with Guidance for SPI. Responding to each individual evidence," edits are also political, left/Democratic leaning, focus on Ralph Nader and related articles." When I edit political articles, I try my best to add to the article. My user page: "Hello. Likes: Obama. USA. CM Punk. Rey Mysterio. Booster Gold. Spider-Man. Superheroes and comics in general. Dislikes: Ralph Nader. Ron Paul. Michael Phelps." I added my likes and dislikes because the page looked boring with just "Hello." My likes and dislikes cover the articles I usually read. "User:Thejka re-emerged to heavy activity on Ralph Nader talk page after User:Douglemeister" I emerged before Douglmeister in the talk page, and I argued more substantively. I followed guidelines and did not edit the page.Thejka (talk) 01:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users
 * The evidence for this SPI is a little less convincing than the last SPI. While Thejka does share the same views on the inclusion of a quote on Ralph Nader as Douglemeister, I think the re-emergence of Thejka on Talk:Ralph Nader shortly before Douglemeister was blocked could be a coincidence owing to the fact that Thejka was the one who originally added the quote a few months ago, and the subject hadn't been brought up again until recently (by Douglemeister and others). But I could be wrong, and a checkuser could clear it up. -kotra (talk) 03:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, should this SPI be at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Douglemeister 2 or Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Thejka? The current title, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Douglemeister, is the name of the last one. -kotra (talk) 03:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, we try to keep all related cases on the same page. -- lucasbfr  talk 11:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. -kotra (talk) 21:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Donât throw stones in glass houses. Check out this sockpuppet report about CassiasMunch: CassiasMunch Sockpuppet. CalBear44 (talk) 17:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser will reveal all. In fact, it already has. CalBear44, I suggest you might remain civil and adhere to policy. CassiasMunch (talk) 21:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * User:CalBear44, I see that your edits began January 30, 2009, yet you have a long history with Wikipedia and knowledge of certain policy. What is/are your former handles/usernames? CassiasMunch (talk) 22:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Note to clerks, patrolling admins, and checkusers: 71.139.33.83 and CalBear44 have now been added by the filer CassiasMunch to the suspected sockpuppets. -kotra (talk) 22:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Requested by CassiasMunch (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC) -- lucasbfr  talk 11:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

CassiasMunch (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Conclusions

Report date January 31 2009, 23:53 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets:



CassiasMunch (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by CassiasMunch (talk)

I recently filed a WP:SSP report with Check User request for User:Douglemeister. Given recent activity, edits, I am beginning to suspect User:Thejka is User:Douglemeister aka User:Griot. Edits are also political, left/Democratic leaning, focus on Ralph Nader and related articles. First edits out are to Ralph Nader, similar to User:Douglemeister aka User:Griot. User page, again, similar in appearance to User:Douglemeister and User:Pennester, with "Hello. Likes: Obama. USA. CM Punk. Rey Mysterio. Booster Gold. Spider-Man. Superheroes and comics in general. Dislikes: Ralph Nader. Ron Paul. Michael Phelps." User:Thejka re-emerged to heavy activity on Ralph Nader talk page after User:Douglemeister is banned for sockpuppetry. CassiasMunch (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.
 * Shows you how much I know, I originally put my defense in my talk page because I has no idea about this page! I mainly have been editing pro wrestling and comic book articles, but I really enjoy politics, so I often read about it and add references or info to articles I am reading. I had a strong belief about that Altantic article being in the recognition, without the quote if needed. I pressed on it because I felt that way, not because I am sockpuppet or something. It is mere coincidence. I happen to be the one who originally who readded the quote in November, just as Kotra said. In November, someone took out part of the whole quote, so I added the whole quote. If you need any more proof, just tell me. I changed this a bit in accordance with Guidance for SPI. Responding to each individual evidence," edits are also political, left/Democratic leaning, focus on Ralph Nader and related articles." When I edit political articles, I try my best to add to the article. My user page: "Hello. Likes: Obama. USA. CM Punk. Rey Mysterio. Booster Gold. Spider-Man. Superheroes and comics in general. Dislikes: Ralph Nader. Ron Paul. Michael Phelps." I added my likes and dislikes because the page looked boring with just "Hello." My likes and dislikes cover the articles I usually read. "User:Thejka re-emerged to heavy activity on Ralph Nader talk page after User:Douglemeister" I emerged before Douglmeister in the talk page, and I argued more substantively. I followed guidelines and did not edit the page.Thejka (talk) 01:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users
 * The evidence for this SPI is a little less convincing than the last SPI. While Thejka does share the same views on the inclusion of a quote on Ralph Nader as Douglemeister, I think the re-emergence of Thejka on Talk:Ralph Nader shortly before Douglemeister was blocked could be a coincidence owing to the fact that Thejka was the one who originally added the quote a few months ago, and the subject hadn't been brought up again until recently (by Douglemeister and others). But I could be wrong, and a checkuser could clear it up. -kotra (talk) 03:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, should this SPI be at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Douglemeister 2 or Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Thejka? The current title, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Douglemeister, is the name of the last one. -kotra (talk) 03:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Nope, we try to keep all related cases on the same page. -- lucasbfr  talk 11:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. -kotra (talk) 21:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Don’t throw stones in glass houses. Check out this sockpuppet report about CassiasMunch: CassiasMunch Sockpuppet. CalBear44 (talk) 17:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser will reveal all. In fact, it already has. CalBear44, I suggest you might remain civil and adhere to policy. CassiasMunch (talk) 21:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * User:CalBear44, I see that your edits began January 30, 2009, yet you have a long history with Wikipedia and knowledge of certain policy. What is/are your former handles/usernames? CassiasMunch (talk) 22:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Note to clerks, patrolling admins, and checkusers: 71.139.33.83 and CalBear44 have now been added by the filer CassiasMunch to the suspected sockpuppets. -kotra (talk) 22:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Also User:Bennie Noakes. CassiasMunch (talk) 10:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Requested by CassiasMunch (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC) -- lucasbfr  talk 11:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

CassiasMunch (talk) 23:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Please correct the title of this page. I believe the User: prefix is unnecessary? --Deskana (talk) 21:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

✅ Tiptoety  talk 21:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * is . is ✅.  is ❌. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 01:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Mayalld (talk) 08:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)