Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Doworks000/Archive

18 April 2013

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Oddly similar, short userpages: "make Wikipedia the best it can be", "make Wikipedia better", etc. All users share recent edits to Superman and related articles, also Vampire Weekend, often w/o edit summaries. Doworks000 removed standard revert notice to MrLeeWiki's talk page. Request CheckUser. Also, when reviewing other recent contributors to Superman, noticed username for User:Rreagan007 (who has also edited Superman recently) is similar to Doworks000 (text followed by 3-digit #'s). Rreagan007 may or may not be tied to Sockpuppet investigations/Shalom Yechiel.  Levdr1 lostpassword  /  talk  07:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Rreagan007 has archived discussion at Suspected sock puppets/Rreagan007. Something odd here.  Editors seem to be interacting only with one another.   Levdr1 lostpassword  /  talk  07:48, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Re: MrLeeWiki and his userpage notice about "alternative accounts"-- first Doworks000 is his "husband", then his "wife". Also did not disclose "alternative accounts" until this SPI began.   Levdr1 lostpassword  /  talk  19:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * I, User:Rreagan007, am not, nor have I ever been or used a sockpuppet on Wikipedia. I have edited Wikipedia under this username for over 5 years now. I do not know, nor have I had any interactions with any of the other usernames listed in this investigation. The previous sockpuppet investigation into me was over 4 years ago, close to the time I began editing on Wikipedia, and the allegation was that I was logging out to make "problematic edits" under an IP address. This was false, as the editing under an IP address was inadvertent and none of my edits under the IP address were "problematic edits". Rreagan007 (talk) 18:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, I am also not "tied to" or an any way associated with Shalom Yechiel. And the fact that I choose not to have anything on my user page is my choice. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * for checkuser. Yunshui 雲 &zwj; 水  13:16, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅, but note the statement on MrLeeWiki's userpage:
 * I do not see sufficient evidence to check Rreagan007. T. Canens (talk) 15:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I do not see sufficient evidence to check Rreagan007. T. Canens (talk) 15:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I do not see sufficient evidence to check Rreagan007. T. Canens (talk) 15:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I do not see sufficient evidence to check Rreagan007. T. Canens (talk) 15:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I do not see sufficient evidence to check Rreagan007. T. Canens (talk) 15:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see any particular reason not to believe MrLeeWiki's explanation. However, regardless of whtether they're the same user or not, it's not okay for closely related accounts to revert-war for each other like they've done at Lex Luthor and Batman . Also, while the MrLeeWiki account is clearly marked as related to the other two, there should also be similar tags on the other accounts' userpages. Jafeluv (talk) 07:50, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd call shenanigans. One does not just call someone their "husband" one minute and then change it to "wife" the next. -- King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 08:14, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I call your shenanigans, and raise by two more accounts, created during the last days:
 * I have not looked into whether there is further overlap, and there may be innocent explanations -- although I can't really think of one if I accepts the information on MrLeeWiki's user page as true. Also of note is that MrLeeWiki only acknowledged the two alts that had been mentioned here at the time, he left out Awayats3a. Amalthea  11:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have not looked into whether there is further overlap, and there may be innocent explanations -- although I can't really think of one if I accepts the information on MrLeeWiki's user page as true. Also of note is that MrLeeWiki only acknowledged the two alts that had been mentioned here at the time, he left out Awayats3a. Amalthea  11:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I have not looked into whether there is further overlap, and there may be innocent explanations -- although I can't really think of one if I accepts the information on MrLeeWiki's user page as true. Also of note is that MrLeeWiki only acknowledged the two alts that had been mentioned here at the time, he left out Awayats3a. Amalthea  11:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm calling rubbish on the claims of relations. He only claimed the two accounts as his after the SPI was filed. Then another account was uncovered when checkuser was run, and he proceeded to create another two a week after that. I'm blocking everyone now and closing. (EDIT: Rreagan007 is not blocked since he is unrelated.) Reaper Eternal (talk) 21:19, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

02 May 2016

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Request CheckUser based on behavioral evidence in points 1 & 2. Additional concerns in points 3 & 4 (not basis for CU).

1. Timeline of events:
 * - MrLeeWiki removes content from Superman lead.
 * - MrLeeWiki removes same content from Superman lead.
 * 2 May 2013 - MrLeeWiki is  blocked  for sock-puppetry. (also blocked: Doworks000, DrManhattan11, Awayats3a, K1teflyftw, and Inabluemn)
 * 26 June 2013 - DrRNC is created.
 * 15 August 2014 - DangerousJXD is created.
 * - DrRNC removes same content as MrLeeWiki from Superman lead.
 * - DangerousJXD removes same content as MrLeeWiki from Superman lead after discussing with DrRNC (formerly JosephSpiral) on Superman talk page at Talk:Superman/Archive_3.

2. Edit interactions:
 * Comparison of confirmed sockpuppets MrLeeWiki, DrManhattan11, and Doworks000:
 * All 3 edited Superman article.
 * Overlap between MrLeeWiki and DrManhattan11 on other comic book content, including minimal time between edits at Superman, Lex Luthor, and Metropolis.


 * Comparison of confirmed sockpuppet MrLeeWiki and suspected sockpuppets DrRNC & DangerousJXD:
 * All 3 have edited Superman article.
 * Overlap between DrRNC and DangerousJXD on other comic book content (dozens more than confirmed socks), including minimal time between edits at Lex Luthor, Batman, Wolverine (character), List of Spider-Man storylines, Spider-Woman (Mattie Franklin), and Catwoman.
 * Based on the two linked comparisons above, editing habits of suspected sockpuppets DrRNC & DangerousJXD seem to mirror editing habits of confirmed sockpuppets MrLeeWiki, DrManhattan11, & Doworks000.

3. Similar usernames:
 * Both confirmed sockpuppet DrManhattan11 and suspected sockpuppet DrRNC begin with "Dr".
 * Confirmed socks MrLeeWiki and DrManhattan11, and suspected sock DrRNC -- all use honorifics.

4. Oddly-timed message:
 * I was sent a message by a newly-registered user on the Commons who has no account on the English Wikipedia. This user posted a message about Metropolis, Illinois, and commented on a Superman statue in that city.  The message came only a couple days after I noted renewed suspicions of sock-puppetry in an edit summary at the Superman article.  I doubt this was some random coincidence.

Levdr1 lp /  talk  09:58, 2 May 2016 (UTC)


 * DangerousJXD replied to my SPI notice on his talk page. He says he won't be defending himself here because he finds pages like this "confusing".   Levdr1 lp  /  talk  10:58, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I added clarification to point #2 above. Levdr1 lp  /  talk  23:08, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * DrRNC has also replied to my SPI notice on DangerousJXD's talk page; although he said he wouldn't "expend any more energy" on this matter, he did respond in the section below.  Levdr1 lp  /  talk  01:32, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I added an observation to point #3 above.  Levdr1 lp  /  talk  01:43, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

- right now this is the only direct evidence I have. I don't often open an SPI case, but given the combination of similar edits at the Superman article (from MrLeeWiki to DrRNC to DangerousJXD) in the context of the timeline above, and the random Metropolis post on my Commons page, and the fact I'm familiar with the original case given that I first opened it (this felt a little too familiar), I thought it was sufficient. It's entirely up to you whether or not to proceed (though wouldn't a CU prove me wrong if I am, in fact, wrong?). If this were an isolated event, I probably wouldn't have reopened this case. Side note- doesn't the past history of the socks editing this same way warrant a greater degree of suspicion, particularly when the new accounts were created after the confirmed socks were indef. blocked? Levdr1 lp /  talk  11:18, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * - I'm sure if I had way more time on my hands I'd find something more in the Superman page history. Am I prepared to go down that rabbit hole?  I don't know.  Like I said, it's rare I open a case.  My gut tells me there's something fishy going on with some of the editors in that page history.  There are multiple editors w/o userpages; many created their accounts years ago and only began editing after Doworks000, etc. were blocked.  That in itself means nothing, but I'm looking at this throuh the lens of more than one confirmed sock who had the same exact issue w/ the Superman lead.  Same feeling then as now.   Levdr1 lp  /  talk  13:54, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * - here's an example of what I mean regarding recent Superman editors. Both DrRNC & NeoBatfreak have had multiple non-free uploads of comic book art deleted over the past year.  Upload title often includes artist name.   Adding info---> some of DrRNC deleted orphaned non-free uploads in past year: File:SupermanbyRoss.png & File:CatwomanbyRoss.jpg; some of NeoBatfreak's deleted orphaned non-free uploads in past year: File:The Shadow (Alex Ross's art).png, File:Green Hornet and Kato (Alex Ross's art).png, & File:Brainiac (Alex Ross).png.   Levdr1 lp  /  talk  14:24, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * - at the time of this post, DrRNC's first and only edit to content since the case opened was to the Batman article. A user named DrBat uploaded the Batman infobox image, and this reminded me that DrRNC uploaded the Superman infobox image.  Is DrBat another "medical doctor" like DrRNC?  Both DrRNC & DrBat "know Magneto was right". Similar to DrRNC and NeoBatfreak, DrBat has had multiple orphaned non-free images deleted over the past few years- mostly comic book images for infoboxes.   Levdr1 lp  /  talk  01:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Can anyone please stop mentioning me, I do not want to get involve with a sockpuppet investigation.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 01:58, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Adding more image info above (italicized to highlight).  Levdr1 lp  /  talk  02:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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Levdr1lp's argument is sloppy and ignorant at best. I'm not going to waste my time or energy "defending" myself anymore than in this simple rebuttal. I, like DangerousJXD, are members of WikiProjects Comics, and as such, we and a handful of others regularly edit the main comic book pages like Superman, Wolverine, Batman, etc. If you want to do some actual investigating instead of being lazy, why not look at editing disputes I've had with DangerousJXD? Or maybe that would involve too much work for you. I suppose it's easier to come up with illogical and ignorant allegations. Also, the idea that I have "Dr" in my name and another user does also, thus we're one and the same, is incredibly ignorant. That user is referencing a very well-known comic book character called Doctor Manhattan, while I am a medical doctor. Therefore, I'm using "Dr" in my name. Do some real investigating next time and don't waste my time your nonsense. DrRNC (talk) 23:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

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Do you have more behaviorial evidence that links these two to each other, and to previous socks? Otherwise, it's very conceivable that these two users you reported just happen to share a common interest in the Superman article, and one removed the content, started a discussion, and the other again removed the agreed upon content. Happens everyday with editors of common interest that are not socks. I'm quite familiar with 's work on basketball articles, and I will note that they make extensive use of edit summaries compared to the others.—Bagumba (talk) 07:21, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
 * A clerk will make the call on the SPI, but my guess is the info is stale on the old editors, so all they would be able to check is the current editors. Moving back to behaviorial evidence, do you have diffs of other stylistic similarities in addition to the edit overlap?  Or only the one about the Superman lead and high school? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 13:21, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Closed based on insufficient evidence.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:35, 7 May 2016 (UTC)