Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dreisar20/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

 * (formerly Mambaforever824)
 * (formerly Mambaforever824)
 * (formerly Mambaforever824)


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The sockmaster was known as ThePongster until 8 May 2021, while the probable sockpuppet was known as Riodelbeau until also 8 May 2021. Both editors were issued a notice about a possible sockpuppet behavior between these two editors. Upon the inspection through "Editor Interaction Analyzer" it appears that both editors primarily edit Kai Sotto, Joshua Munzon and Kobe Paras pages. – Sabbatino (talk) 18:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC) Sabbatino (talk) 18:25, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Update. The editor appears to have created two more accounts – and  (formerly Mambaforever824). – Sabbatino (talk) 06:24, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * I've always had the feeling that these two editors are the same users based on the pages they are editing and their editing patterns, but I didn't report because I thought I didn't have substantial evidence that they indeed are the same. Engr. Smitty   Werben 04:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well I also had that feeling and then I saw issue them both a notice about possible ties between the two accounts. – Sabbatino (talk) 07:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I do not know what to think at this point, because Dreisar20 made an edit and Aeiou001 reverted it one day later. They could not be related at all or the editor is trying to fool everyone else and make it look like that. – Sabbatino (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

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 * The editing overlap, timecards, and common use of mobile web editing all point to Dreisar20, Aeiou001, and Iceman10100 being the same person. Less clear about Blackmamba824 from those aspects, but the rename makes them all but certain too. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:54, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

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Real name of user as they revealed here. There's this IP that could also be them so please check. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 08:16, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * - I have Andrei B. Sarmiento per the diff presented above. It looks the IP editor has been blocked for 72 hours by  for disruptive editing. --    LuK3      (Talk)   11:34, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

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Editing pattern and pages edited are more or less identical. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 12:44, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * - (from the archive) and  were created a little over an hour apart, and they're the only two of the bunch that don't edit on mobile or use VE, and the only two that have not triggered the "changing height and/or weight" tag (which I didn't even know was a thing).  One possibility is that we're looking at two different groups here.  CU should be able to figure that out. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:20, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Also found and ✅:
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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Editing pattern and pages edited are also more or less identical. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 13:44, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * - TheresNoTime 😺 15:31, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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I always have a hunch that this account is a puppet of someone but can't tell which one. However, when this user created their userpage, it provided the evidence that was needed. First, their editing pattern and edited pages (Filipino politicians, basketball players) are similar. Second, JediMaster claims to be an "Andrei B. Sarmiento", which is also the username of a blocked puppet (User:Andrei B. Sarmiento). Third, the master's username seems to be an abbreviation of the user's actual name. "Drei" could come from "Andrei", the "Sar" from "Sarmiento", and the 20 could represent the birthdate or age of the user. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 07:33, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Not to mention some other beans-y behavior.  -- RoySmith (talk) 14:07, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

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Similar IP address to one that has been blocked before as a confirmed sock. They are editing in a similar fashion and to similar articles. DaHuzyBru (talk) 09:36, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * You filed this without the accompanying SPI case status template and comment sections. In the future, when filing a case you should use {{subst:SPI report}}; a convenient form to do so is included under "How to open an investigation" at WP:SPI. Or just use Twinkle. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 04:06, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll go beyond what Tamzin said. I know it's not official policy, but as far as I'm concerned, people really should be using Twinkle to file SPIs.  Hand-edited SPI pages just lead to more work for the clerks who have to fix up formatting problems. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:40, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I actually find the preload on the main SPI page (which uses {{subst:SPI report}}) quite nice, and use it for longer filings. But I agree that no one should actually try to do a whole filing by hand. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 15:37, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I doubt this is going to be very effective, but blocked the IP for 2 weeks. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:24, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Similar IP address to those that were previously blocked. Also, similar editing pattern and similar pages that are being edited. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 08:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * This may well have been them, but the IP hasn't edited in over a week - looks like they've moved on, so a block would likely be pointless. Come back if they return to this IP.  Girth Summit  (blether)  12:59, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Dreisar20 is clearly, who was reported here on 11 March by Engr. Smitty and stopped editing a few days afterwards. A few days later the Dreisar20 account started carrying out the same sort of changes, all category, hatnote, name, and infobox tweaks to various Filipino politicians. In both cases edit summaries are very rare. The pattern is consistent with previous socks such as TheJediMaster327, who curiously like Mtmp11 took an odd diversion from Filipino politicians to Kim Jong-il. As a contextual note, it is the Philippine election season, hence some edits seeming quite WP:NOTHERE. CMD (talk) 09:03, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to ; tagging as proven, in-line with that account. Closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  14:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Same editing pattern and similar pages being contributed to. IP address is also similar with other confirmed IP socks (124.104.***.***) '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 02:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * IP hasn't edited in 3 weeks. . --Jack Frost (talk) 03:38, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Same editing pattern and similar pages being contributed to (Filipino basketball players and politicians, Stalin). I also found identical edits that were made by the master and this sock, such as this and this. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 16:28, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

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 * Yep, also restoring sock edits here, here etc.  - please indef the sock. Thanks,  Spicy (talk) 09:04, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 * firefly ( t · c ) 09:59, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Similar editing pattern and similar IP address with previously reported IPs. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 16:29, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * The IP address hasn't edited in over a week - if it was them, they've probably moved on to another IP by now., to get quicker attention on SPIs, please consider providing a bit more detail than 'similar edit pattern' - if you provide diffs that demonstrate the similarity, that will save clerks/admins who may be unfamiliar with the case from going into the archive and trying to work out the similarities for themselves. Closing without further action.  Girth Summit  (blether)  13:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC)