Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dryamaka/Archive

Report date May 14 2009, 03:02 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by Orlady

I think that Dryamaka is using these two IPs in order to:
 * edit while his registered account was blocked for 3RR violation (see this diff at Talk:Susan Boyle -- note that Dryamaka was blocked for a 3RR violation in relation to Susan Boyle's portrait),
 * carry on conversations with himself (see this Talk:Susan Boyle diff again plus various edits by all three of these accounts at Talk:Miss USA 2009, such as:, , , , , , , ), and
 * just generally be uncivil and engage in minor vandalism, including repeat reverts (but not more than 3 total reverts in 24 hours), without passing the threshold that would cause him to be blocked again (for example, see the two IPs' contributions to Talk:Amsterdam (city), New York/Archives/2012 and the two IPs edits in Amsterdam (city), New York during May 8 through 11th, where both of them have engaged in repeated removal of the entry for Todd Cetnar).

One of the links between these three accounts is that recently all three accounts have focused on Amsterdam (city), New York (Dryamaka's home town, I believe), Susan Boyle, and Miss USA 2009. Additionally, both Dryamaka and 65.215.94.13 have edited in Pomeranian (dog).

Another connection is professional. Dryamaka states that he is a lawyer. 65.215.94.13 is registered to a New York City legal business. 69.204.225.103 is a RoadRunner IP, but the user claims to be a legal expert (see this series of diffs).

A third connection is the similarity of the negative comments that all three users make regarding Wikipedia and other Wikipedians.

I'm convinced that Dryamaka is hiding behind the IPs. I am requesting checkuser assistance in order to confirm the connection so that any sanctions and future warnings will "stick" more effectively. --Orlady (talk) 03:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

In the bot report on coincident editing, I notice two places (on 20 April and 21 April 2009) where it appears that Dryamaka accidentally edited Talk:Miss USA 2009 (from 69.204.225.103) while logged out, then quickly logged in and continued. --Orlady (talk) 15:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

All three accounts have removed the Todd Cetnar entry from the "notables" list in Amsterdam (city), New York. When I posted earlier, I forgot that this was something Dryamaka had done historically, including this diff. --Orlady (talk) 15:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Both of the IPs have suggested that WP's notability criteria might make their pets notable: this diff by 65.215.94.13 (that particular diff removed the unsigned template from a "pet terrier" comment by the same IP several months earlier, indicating to me that the IP is a stable one in continued use by the same person) and this "pet fish" diff from 69.204.225.103 and this "dog" diff from 69.204.225.103. --Orlady (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

I will state that I origionally had these suspicions, based on some editing patterns observed between these IPs on Amsterdam (city), New York. I did a bit of looking about in some areas of editing and suspected that Dryamaka was the sockmaster. I asked an administrator for advice. When he responded, I realized that I lacked the experience with sockpuppetry and checkuser to gather sufficient evidence, and asked Orlady for help because I know she had dealt with these IPs on the same article as well; and being a new admin, thought she appreciate the opportunity to shine ;). She took the ball and went down the court with it. I hope this will allay any concerns anyone might have as to this being a bad faith accusation.  bahamut0013  words  deeds   15:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users
 * Another behavioral similarity: removing portions of the talk page, sometimes with the Undo function:, , , , , falsely claiming not to have removed discussion, . I have also noted a bit of a pattern regarding the failure to sign talk page comments, even removing them, until last month. There have also been a number of comments regarding the untrustworthiness of Wikipedia between the two IPs.  bahamut0013  words deeds   15:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for supplying that history, Bahamut0013. For the record, the registered accounts with the most activity on the Amsterdam (city) article are Bahamut0013, Dryamaka, StarX, and myself. StarX appears to have been the first to try to remove the Todd Cetnar article and listing in the "notables" section for Amsterdam, but that user does not show any other intersections with Dryamaka and these two IPs. --Orlady (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Requested by Orlady (talk) 03:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Here is the bot report for coincident editing. Nathan  T (formerly Avruch) 14:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Icestorm815 •  Talk  19:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

✅. Dominic·t 05:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

 Syn  ergy 19:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions
 * Named account indef blocked (see their other blocks for justification), and IPs blocked for one week. Tiptoety  talk 19:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)