Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DuskyWeather/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



 *  Originally filed under . --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)


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 * You will note that the editor Cassierio's edit history consists largely of edits to peerage and bishop articles. A substantial number of his edits are changing the styling of British peers' names to the format 'Forename, Title', as exemplified by a recent series of edits carried out in April, which can be exemplified by this edit. This format is an original creation of another editor, which does not exist off Wikipedia. That editor is DBD. For years, DBD has tried to insert this original style into Wikipedia articles. I first spotted him making these sorts of changes around 2018, if I remember properly.


 * A very good example of DBD's long-term attempt to place this style into articles is Shadow Cabinet of Jeremy Corbyn. In January 2019, he made an edit with the edit summary 'names', which changed the styling to his original style. I reverted, but he came back some months later and did the same thing again and again, ending in December 2019. I reverted again. This pattern is repeated across many articles. Presumably because of the continued reverts of these changes by me and other editors over a long period of time, and in an attempt to avoid scrutiny, the account Cassierio appeared in January 2020. This account began edits to introduce the DBD original style into articles, to the point where this account was soon blocked by Boing! said Zebedee. That didn't stop the account from returning in April 2021, when he began making the exact same changes again. This is when I first encountered the account, and issued a warning, after which the warning was deleted without a word, and the account went silent. What I did not realise at the time, however, was that it was clear that DBD and Cassierio are one and the same person. DBD's edits also largely consist of edits to peerage and bishop articles, and indeed, the last edits by the Cassierio account at the John Sentamu page, low-hanging fruit, represent a clear overlap with DBD. Indeed, such edits can be found everywhere via the interaction tool, a good example being DBD's edit to the 'ibx format' at Spencer Livermore, Baron Livermore, in 2018, followed up by another infobox edit by the Cassierio account this year.


 * I have requested a checkuser, but the data may well be stale (though the last edit on the Cassierio account dates back to July, is that not within the 90 day limit?). Either way, it is clear to me that something is going on here. While there is no disruption occurring at this very moment, the tendency of both accounts to disappear for some time and return to make the same changes suggests that action should be taken to prevent this from happening again, especially given that DBD continues to advocate for the changes present in the edit history on display here, making more such changes as recently as July. It pains me to bring a longstanding editor to this place, but, upon realising the connection, I felt as if I had no other choice. I am ashamed for not having come to this conclusion sooner. RGloucester  — ☎ 00:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that. I will now wait for someone to evaluate the behavioural evidence I presented. I will also take a look through these other accounts to see if there are any red flags. RGloucester  — ☎ 20:38, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * User:RGloucester, I saw your note on Bbb's talk page. So, there is no CU evidence that connects DBD to Cassierio--but here's the fun part: confirmed with Cassierio and blocked (but not tagged) are: QarkiFidgpo, Minstubs, DuskyWeather, PiltdownErica, OreoCages, Larryhapse, Iftid, Jab0tagn1, Coupsmogi, Kasaikorea, Tyrowlands, Unitpreps, Comsalden, Pabsteddy, and TetlowK, so this was hardly a waste of time. On the question of whether DBD is connected, I have no evidence for that. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:27, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It is an odd thing to have in common, favoring that particular style of rendering peers' names. But I don't think there's much that can be done here without CU confirmation. I've read through the contributions of the accounts Drmies blocked. All of them have a quite distinctive edit-summary style, and it's very different from DBD's own distinctive edit-summary style. And the kind of editing they favor is a small subset of the kind he does. If these accounts are DBD, he's taken exceptional efforts to obscure any behavioral match, which is strange, since this sockmaster took very little effort to obscure the blocked accounts' connections to one another: In addition to the shared edit-summary style, all of them have similar userpages, and all of them edited those userpages most recently on July 4th. It's hard to imagine someone being this good and this bad at socking at the same time, so I very much doubt that this is DBD. Closing. But hey, at least we caught a sockfarm either way. -- Tamzin  [cetacean needed] (she/they) 01:40, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll defer to Drmies' decision to not tag these, but going to link them for future reference and so the script will save me the trouble of figuring out which username to move this to.
 *  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, think the move's all sorted. Ready for archival. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It's been pointed out to me that Drmies didn't quite say not to tag, just that he didn't. Is there a reason not to tag here, or shall I go ahead?  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:53, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * User:Tamzin, one reason I didn't tag it is that I'm too lazy for it and I'm always having to look for the right template. So please don't think that I meant "no don't tag them"; I simply meant "I didn't tag them". I'm usually perfectly happy to leave those decisions to people with better memories. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * How dare you accuse me of having a good memory?  I just constantly look things up. All tagged now. Now this is ready for archiving, for realzies, no takebacks, final answer, cross my heart and hope to die.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 02:33, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No User:Tamzin no wait--ah well, never mind, go ahead. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 *  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, think the move's all sorted. Ready for archival. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It's been pointed out to me that Drmies didn't quite say not to tag, just that he didn't. Is there a reason not to tag here, or shall I go ahead?  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:53, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * User:Tamzin, one reason I didn't tag it is that I'm too lazy for it and I'm always having to look for the right template. So please don't think that I meant "no don't tag them"; I simply meant "I didn't tag them". I'm usually perfectly happy to leave those decisions to people with better memories. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * How dare you accuse me of having a good memory?  I just constantly look things up. All tagged now. Now this is ready for archiving, for realzies, no takebacks, final answer, cross my heart and hope to die.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 02:33, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No User:Tamzin no wait--ah well, never mind, go ahead. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 *  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, think the move's all sorted. Ready for archival. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It's been pointed out to me that Drmies didn't quite say not to tag, just that he didn't. Is there a reason not to tag here, or shall I go ahead?  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:53, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * User:Tamzin, one reason I didn't tag it is that I'm too lazy for it and I'm always having to look for the right template. So please don't think that I meant "no don't tag them"; I simply meant "I didn't tag them". I'm usually perfectly happy to leave those decisions to people with better memories. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * How dare you accuse me of having a good memory?  I just constantly look things up. All tagged now. Now this is ready for archiving, for realzies, no takebacks, final answer, cross my heart and hope to die.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 02:33, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No User:Tamzin no wait--ah well, never mind, go ahead. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It's been pointed out to me that Drmies didn't quite say not to tag, just that he didn't. Is there a reason not to tag here, or shall I go ahead?  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 00:53, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * User:Tamzin, one reason I didn't tag it is that I'm too lazy for it and I'm always having to look for the right template. So please don't think that I meant "no don't tag them"; I simply meant "I didn't tag them". I'm usually perfectly happy to leave those decisions to people with better memories. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * How dare you accuse me of having a good memory?  I just constantly look things up. All tagged now. Now this is ready for archiving, for realzies, no takebacks, final answer, cross my heart and hope to die.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 02:33, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * No User:Tamzin no wait--ah well, never mind, go ahead. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 29 September 2021 (UTC)