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24 December 2014

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ELreydeEspana is actually a expelled user from some projects, also the account was locked via steward because he commited attacks and bullying over some users (including me). He was reported twice to the administrators board for bullying issues. But he was blocked for two days before the steward lock. He maintains a "battle" in various projects (Spanish Wikipedia, Spanish Wikibooks, French Wikipedia and Italian Wikipedia), and his behaviour tends to a "Spanish supremacy above Latin Americans" with a strong and blatantly racism. Now, with Maria Tudor y Felipe II he persist with disputed edtions here but with vandalisms in other projects. Taichi (talk) 05:38, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Added some sexual insults against me through IP. Also because this, Maria Tudor y Felipe II acount was locked by steward. --Taichi (talk) 03:56, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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This user started here at the English Wikipedia on the account Halias 23. I met this user at the Teahouse and helped him out as a newbie. Later he posted on six or seven pages asking for help since he had forgotten his password and started the temporary account ELreydeEspana, see this diff. The new account became his permanent and tags explaining this was put on both accounts and his history moved to the new account, leaving a redirect on the old account. On this account he made some very inappropriate edits and got into trouble. After a while I got a message that he wanted to start over on a new account MairaTudor1deInglaterra in this diff. I thought he was somehow going to declare this new account as he had done earlier, but right then I did not have the time to investigate it further. He also said that he had second thoughts about the name of the new account and wanted to change it or merge it with his other accounts, he asked at the Teahouse diff (and my talk page diff) about how this could be done. Instead he apparently just created a new account Maria Tudor y Felipe II. I know nothing about the IPs. Recently I got a message from an IP that the user is now leaving the Wikipedia diff. - w.carter -Talk  08:54, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

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With the exception of Halias 23, all of the named accounts have been globally locked, so there's nothing to do with them. I've indeffed Halias 23 (there's been some sort of redirect to the master's page and the account has no edits since late November, but it doesn't look like an actual rename to me). I haven't bothered notifying them or tagging them. The first IP has only one edit. The next two have no edits (why are they listed?). The last IP is globally locked at the moment, so I assume it's being dealt with by stewards. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:29, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

05 January 2015

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=639405147&oldid=639270718 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=640865259&oldid=639768949 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=641038311&oldid=640865675 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=639711007&oldid=639550299 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=641096142&oldid=641045270 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=641098580&oldid=641096659 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=641098722&oldid=641098580 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=641106468&oldid=641102301 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=German_Guatemalan&diff=prev&oldid=641134731 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Inhakito&oldid=prev&diff=641135604

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(Removed per WP:NPA)


 * I'm not very fluent in Spanish, but I'm sure those are very serious personal attacks added by user . Maybe the edit should be deleted from the page history by an administrator? Vanjagenije (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * is another sock. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * From es.wikipedia the sysops checked multiple sockpuppets, I summarized all in this list. --Taichi (talk) 03:12, 7 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Those are all obviously socks. Same pages edited, same style. Communicating in Spanish, posting personal attacks, etc. All should be blocked. Vanjagenije (talk) 03:13, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Also. --Taichi (talk) 06:43, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * All of the accounts here have been globally locked. I've also anon only range blocked two of the disruptive ranges for 2 weeks. The collateral damage is relatively small and should be OK for this duration. Mike V • Talk 00:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * What happened with User:Blanc, noir et rouge? I see that he's been accused here, and you placed a "blocked" tag at the user page. But, according to the log, that user is not registered at all. I'm sure he was registered. What happened? Vanjagenije (talk) 00:48, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * The account is not registered on en.wiki, but the account is listed globally. Mike V • Talk 00:54, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

17 January 2015

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See - still pushing the same material at German Guatemalan. Effectively self-identifies by continuing conversations started by previous socks at User talk:Maunus. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:47, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I put mi references, of books, the material is not a lie,  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manuel Alejandro Castellanos Escrivá (talk • contribs) 04:09, 17 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Are you the same person who previously edited Wikipedia under the name of ELreydeEspana, MariaTudor1DeInglaterra, Maria Tudor y Felipe II, Genova y Helsinky, Madrid, Oxford y Munich, Le Chat Noir et la pomme rouge and so on? That is the only thing that is being discussed here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:32, 17 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, in but on this account I came back to start again, It is only to forget the insults and sexual threats I said in previous accounts I will not be very active because I'll take a few month vacation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manuel Alejandro Castellanos Escrivá (talk • contribs)

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 * To AndyTheGrump: Also,  ("Taichi son of a b***tch" in Spanish). --Taichi (talk) 05:34, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, who bullied a Spanish Wikipedia user here. --Taichi (talk) 05:42, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Ya pedi disculpas por los insultos, ya no tienes que alegar nada — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manuel Alejandro Castellanos Escrivá (talk • contribs)

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Indeffed and tagged. The IP was globally locked. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:19, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

18 February 2015

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Making the same edits to German Guatemalan as ELreydeEspana, and again misrepresenting sources to do so. The numbers cited are simply unsuported by the sources cited, and yet the sockmaster is obsessed with adding them. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

im not a Sockpuppet, im only a Women evangelical Pastor from Cartago, Costa Rica, what is ElReydeEspana?, i dont know from respect that this--Pastora Helen Guerra (talk) 22:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' I am sorry, but this page is gobbledygook to me. What is the accusation and what is the evidence? It would be helpful to use words and not links. Thanks for your help. GeorgeLouis (talk) 22:41, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * The accusation is quite simple: that this 'new' contributor has made the same edits to the German Guatemalan article as ELreydeEspana, adding the same supposed population numbers as ELreydeEspana, and again, as per ELreydeEspana citing sources which simply do not contain the numbers they are supposedly being cited for. And like ELreydeEspana's previous socks, now protesting at the subsequent SPI that they are someone else entirely. This will no doubt continue until the evidence proves conclusive (which it will) at which point they will begin throwing around insults in Spanish. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I Repeat, I'm not a Sock for ElReydeEspana, i dont know for this user, i'm only an Evangelical Pastor from Costa Rica, Geroge Luis, please, dont believe in the false "acusations" of Andy, the poor boy dont know for this case, thanks and Blesses--Pastora Helen Guerra (talk) 22:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * It is self-evident that this is ElReydeEspana, since he/she is once again citing exactly the same source for demographic details that ElReydeEspana (and numerous subsequent socks) did - a source which contains no such numbers. Nobody in their right mind is going to believe that two different people should independently misrepresent the same source in the same way. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:02, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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. It would be better if Andy provided some diffs, but I'm somewhat familiar with this case, and I believe there's enough to warrant a CU. In the meantime, I've blocked the alleged puppet for 72 hours for WP:EW.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:04, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Having read, I'm inclined to call it a WP:DUCK. Favonian (talk) 23:10, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, ! Indef with talk page access revoked. Favonian (talk) 23:13, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * We're done here. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:57, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

21 February 2015

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Identical edits as User:Pastora Helen Guerra, a confirmed sock:, ,. Blackguard 01:37, 21 February 2015 (UTC).
 * Adding 190.148.65.78, whose only three edits are identical. Blackguard  19:59, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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He was also insulting on eswiki, see here and here. --Matiia (talk) 02:53, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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The blocked IP edited after the unblocked IP, and the unblocked IP hasn't edited since. Closing, although I'm willing to block the other IP if they resume.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:35, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

01 March 2015

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Please add 190.149.15.136 to the list of sockpuppets. Identical edits:, ,. Blackguard 02:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked for one week, but I believe he's moved on to another dynamic IP (see below). Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

03 March 2015
Same pages edited, see here, here and here. --Matiia (talk) 03:53, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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Blocked for one week. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:24, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

06 April 2015

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This user has the same pattern of editions: Focused in religion and immigration in Central America. Same problems about references and war editions with. --Taichi (talk) 07:38, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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 * Looks a lot like a duck. Blocked. Closing. Favonian (talk) 07:43, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

09 April 2015

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Editing pattern on immigration identical to long-term abuse:  Blackguard  00:30, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

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Just for the record, this is clearly ELreydeEspana - the newly-created Immigration to the Dominican Republic article (now tagged for speedy deletion) has his usual trademark bogus statistics, not even remotely matching the source cited. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:38, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

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 * . An admin is needed to block.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  08:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Euryalus (talk) 09:35, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

10 April 2015
Same pages edited. --Matiia (talk) 22:32, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * The article concerned, Immigration to Nicaragua, is almost entirely the work of ELreydeEspana socks, and accordingly should probably be stubbed - from past experience nothing that this 'contributor' adds can be trusted, and if it isn't entirely bogus, it is probably a copyvio... AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:11, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

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 * This is obviously ELreydeEspana. An admin is needed to block the IP.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:13, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * , next time you want to open a SPI, go to WP:SPI and follow instructions in the box titled "How to open an investigation" (or use WP:Twinkle). The case, as you created it, was not properly formatted.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:17, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Too stale to take action on blockign the IP, although the article ought either be stubbed our deleted. NativeForeigner Talk 21:32, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Closing the case with no action taken. The IP is not active any more, so no need to block.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  09:27, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

23 April 2015

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White Guatemalan but adding information not supported by the given sources. Same in French Guatemalan, Italian Guatemalan. I notice also his edit in Administrator intervention against vandalism to remove a complaint someone else had against him. Also Demographics of Guatemala Erp (talk) 03:35, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * First the concentration on Latin American countries and in particular European immigrants to those countries. Second the giving or changing of numbers without the sources to back them (sources may be given but do not contain those numbers).  I'm not completely sure how to show the diffs but the addition done on this edit   Comes with citations that do not support the evidence given, notably the US Embassy source (footnote 10) gives no figures for US residents in Guatemala, the German source (fn 11) says only > 4,000 (he put down 5,000), the Spanish source (fn 12) again contains no figures, ....  This is apparently common with with ElReyeEspana.  I note however that the user has decided to stop editing at least under this name. --Erp (talk) 02:26, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yup - typical ELreydeEspana sock. Obsessed with adding bogus numbers to articles covering European migration to Latin America, poor grasp of English, deletes reports of his behaviour, etc, etc etc. I expect he abandoned the account as soon as the socking was reported, and started another. At some point, someone is going to have to systematically go through his edits, and revert the lot - he simply can't be trusted to report anything accurately, unless he copy-pasted it... AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:10, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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I only reaches fix pages that were created and compose their references and edit few things, but I retired myself, no need to block me, see my User--Monster Crab (talk) 04:21, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Obvious sock of ELreydeEspana‎. Edits the same topics (, immigration to Central and Latin America, obsessed with demographics) and shows the same disruptive pattern of editing (adding facts and demographic figures, not supported by the references, , 1, 2,, ,1, 2).
 * Restores sock edit/copyvio. Uses identical argument as France et Europea: ,
 * In his comment above, Monster Crab does not deny being a sock of ELreydeEspana.JimRenge (talk) 10:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Please, provide WP:diffs of edits made by this user and diffs of edits made by ELreydeEspana (or previous socks) and explain how are they similar.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:44, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * - - To compare  with previous socks (example diffs: ).  Vanjagenije   (talk)  09:35, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Highly (probably ✅) to previous blocked ducks. I'll block and tag in a minute. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 02:37, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

13 May 2015

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User's complete edit history is of unsubstantiated vandalistic changes contrary to clearly cited sources. See any edit but point specifically to. Edits have same pattern as blocked master. FeatherPluma (talk) 14:23, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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190.149.127.53 was blocked until 11 May 2015 by User:Favonian for block evasion. He is still blocked as a sock-puppet of ELreydeEspana‎ in esWp (see also . JimRenge (talk) 14:44, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Back in the drawer, this time for a month. Closing. Favonian (talk) 22:19, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

14 June 2015

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Edits the same topics as previous socks, (Latin America, obsessed with demographics), and shows the same disruptive pattern of editing, adding facts and demographic figures, not supported by the references,.

Language similarity: Baguette 35, sock. Removed talk page comment by sockpuppet Halias 23 (self-revert?), indefinitely blocked on esWP for misusing multiple accounts. JimRenge (talk) 14:14, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

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 * - - Per the evidence presented above.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  14:22, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Should I be requesting global locks and, if yes, what's the best method of doing that?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:52, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Baguette 35 and Heder Maloff are both blocked at es-wiki for sock puppetry.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:39, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it looks like one of the accounts is already locked: . The easiest way is to file a request here. Tiptoety  talk 18:01, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The one that was already locked wasn't requested by me; it was my data point here. AFAIK, most if not all of the socks are globally locked, but I haven't checked. I assumed the Steward requests was the easiest way to request the locks, but nothing is easy when you've never done it before. Hopefully, I did it right. We'll see.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Should I be requesting global locks and, if yes, what's the best method of doing that?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:52, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Baguette 35 and Heder Maloff are both blocked at es-wiki for sock puppetry.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:39, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it looks like one of the accounts is already locked: . The easiest way is to file a request here. Tiptoety  talk 18:01, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The one that was already locked wasn't requested by me; it was my data point here. AFAIK, most if not all of the socks are globally locked, but I haven't checked. I assumed the Steward requests was the easiest way to request the locks, but nothing is easy when you've never done it before. Hopefully, I did it right. We'll see.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The one that was already locked wasn't requested by me; it was my data point here. AFAIK, most if not all of the socks are globally locked, but I haven't checked. I assumed the Steward requests was the easiest way to request the locks, but nothing is easy when you've never done it before. Hopefully, I did it right. We'll see.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll try to keep tabs on the status of the lock requests without keeping this open. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

28 December 2015

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User_talk:EdJohnston (the whole conversation and proof by User:Bleckter). Dat GuyTalkContribs 17:08, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

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Even admits it here I can get over the Linda Fletcher user, however Arthur Colignon proof is below.

First thing that stands out is the fact that both users (Arthur and Qtwe) have an interest in White Latin Americans. After checking the history, I came across the fact that after reverts an edit by Arthur (diff), Qtwe reverts to an earlier version by, saying in his edit summary ' Ok, Sorry, I put the version of Edjonson, is most better '.

Also, Colignon stopped editing right before the dispute with Qtwe started. Dat GuyTalkContribs 23:06, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Pinged EdJohnston for comments. Dat GuyTalkContribs 23:06, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * I've declined the CU request. The only evidence you've presented is against Qtwe, who is already indefinitely blocked anyway. You need evidence for the other two users, and that includes diffs from them and diffs from the master or one of the master's blocked socks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:14, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  22:36, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * for lack of evidence. The filer has been on-wiki a great deal since Vanja pinged them. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I am not sure about the policies of commenting on archived cases, but could it be re-opened since I really am on vacation since yesterday until Wednesday.The notification must have passed through all the vandals that edit-warred to keep vandalizing, which I've encountered quite a bunch recently. Is it possible that if I will not put a comment in until Thursday, it will be finally closed? Cheers. Dat GuyTalkContribs 08:30, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've unarchived and unclosed the case. We can wait until January 7 (Thursday) for you to provide more evidence. In the future, rather than editing the archive, please notify me (or whoever is involved) or the clerk (in this instance, Vanja) on our Talk pages. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:56, 4 January 2016 (UTC)


 * The evidence you presented is pretty thin. That two users are interested in the same subject area is not evidence of sock puppetry. You included a diff for the first part of the next statement (Iryna Harper) but not the second (EdJohnston). I don't want to hunt down what you're referring to. You also don't put it in any sort of context, so it's virtually meaningless. You present no evidence about the timing. I don't even know when the dispute started. Finally, you have no evidence about Linda fletcher. More is needed, and it feels like I'm pulling teeth.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:37, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I feel like this case is going nowhere, so I'd like a withdrawel of it. Regards, Dat GuyTalkContribs 23:41, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm closing it without prejudice. If you find later you have better evidence, you can reopen it.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:43, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

16 January 2016

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In all of his accounts he edits the same articles. European people, Irreligion, atheism, etc. And he continues discussing with. Also he reverted all my editions in White Colombians, Peruvians of European descent and White Honduran. Bleckter (talk) 01:38, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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Yes, I am another puppet, if you want to Block, I will not care, I care more that this user stop placing edits to their liking, the discussion with Iryna already was finished nicely, further proof that Mr. bleckter hiding evidence, on the page Peruvians White, I added a more reliable reference, the reference placed by Mr. bleckter was this, I put this other, Wikipedia need serious sources not simple web pages, and speaking of sources, this sources that Mr. bleckter place are useful for Wikipedia?. And finally, in the page White Hondurans, I made a redirrecion, because the only source of the page was a primary source, something that has to be eradicated in wikipedia, also this was already being discussed. M.R Bleckter is Mexican, and aims to reduce the white population in countries where they are the majority, and greatly increase the white population of Mexico, this is impossible!--You&#39;ll come back (talk) 18:44, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I have no doubt that this user is hindering the development of Wikipedia, he is replacing the reliable sources with web pages with low reliability, , seriously, I can not believe that no one is aware of what makes Mr. bleckter is true that I evade blockades but this person is not a gentle dove. And the height of absurdity is that, blecker add inecesarias sources add to the images of white people, see this example, this is like a mockery of wikipedia. --You&#39;ll come back (talk) 20:29, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * Self-admitting. Blocked and tagged. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:51, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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Accounts already blocked. I was led this way by a comment by, who was blocked after being incriminated by Bleckter23 here. Turns out that 23 is a number used earlier by ELrey, that they edit from Guatamala (Bleckter is in Mexico), and that they keep being drawn to the same articles, like the shit pile draws a fly, making the same edits. Note also the "Reyes" link to ELrey. No CU necessary here; old data is stale anyway, unless you want to take Bleckter23's measure right now, for future reference. Drmies (talk) 05:07, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping to and, who ran CU on Justino Reyes earlier because of cross-wiki abuse. Found another one, Foiame soy gratis. Drmies (talk) 05:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * And please throw in User:Fok - u as well. Yes, very original name. Drmies (talk) 19:15, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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