Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Eagle c5/Archive

27 April 2012

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The user is moving their editions from Spanish Wikipedia to English Wikipedia in the same article, circumvent a ban in the Spanish Wikipedia, is already proven to be a puppet IP. His edits are the same, with no valid references, even so a proof of socketpuppet on English Wikipedia is. Cmonzonc (talk) 02:44, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry, but each project is separate from each other. As such, blocks and/or bans from one project don't carry over here. The account has stopped editing in February and the IP started editing in April. So based on this, I don't see any violations to the sockpuppetry policy. If sockpuppetry does arise, please relist in the future. Elockid  ( Talk ) 12:32, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

07 May 2012

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I recently blocked, who had been making edits to several articles (especially Trujillo, Peru, example diff) which were introducing blatantly false information (according to other editors; all the sources are in spanish so I could not verify myself), and was following the same MO of the same IP's edits at the Spanish Wiki, which had been blocked as a sock of Spanish-Wiki-indef-blocked user Eagle_c5. From what I can tell via Google Translate, the block is due to consistently adding false information to the same articles that this IP had been editing here. Just before the block, was created, and his activity really ramped up (on the same articles) after I blocked the IP. Does not quite pass the WP:DUCK test, and a lot of this is unclear because of an apparent language barrier, so I'm referring it here. I'm less sure about, but as he was making the same sorts of edits to the Trujillo, Peru article, it seems he may be involved, although I suspect this may be more of a meatpuppet situation than a sock. (see also this edit-warring report by Milesmyth, who seems to know a good deal about the wiki for being a two-day-old user).  Running On Brains (talk) 18:29, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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The two named accounts are ✅ matches to each other. The IP is already blocked and should probably remain that way for the time being. TN X Man 19:39, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Tagged. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  01:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

09 May 2012

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Evades a block, and the users do the same editions in one article (Trujillo) with non-verifiable sources. Is most probable that the ip and Milesmyth are clones. Cmonzonc (talk) 01:25, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

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 * Evidence at Sockpuppet investigations/Milesmyth/Archive ties these editors together via es.wiki, but I think we need independent corroboration. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 12:19, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorpkent and Milesmyth were confirmed locally as being the same, according to the archive link. Is that what you meant? TN X Man  13:51, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to confirm whether Eagle c5 is related so that we can decide who the actual master is and wrap the two cases into one. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Eagle c5 is a ✅ match to the other two named accounts. TN X Man  14:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Socks reblocked and tagged to reflect correct master - master blocked due to disruption and socking. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 21:07, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

10 May 2012

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Evades a block, the user only appears for undo the editions with no proven verifiability. Cmonzonc (talk) 05:34, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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Elmer is a connection to Milesmyth. Given that all of Milesmyth's edits were from one IP, I would think this is a friend, but not the same person. TN X Man 20:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Milesmyth has Eagle c5 as a master and needs to be merged. Might be worth a reendorsement also for a second check. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  03:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, just for the record then is there another IP that these socks have that match this guy with the new master? -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  14:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * To clarify, I'm looking to see if there is any relation between ELMER1071 and any other Eagle c5 sock as it looks like the previous check before the case move was exclusive to Milesmyth sock (aka not knowing the existence of the true master). I could be wrong on that, but just wondering if it was involved in the check, as it could provide a possible relation some how. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  22:39, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ELMER1071 is a match to the archive's confirmed socks. They edit from the same city.  AGK  [•] 21:38, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Milesmyth is blocked and tagged. The IP has been blocked for 6 months for vandalism on this wiki as well as es.wiki. No further action regarding ELMER1071. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  00:46, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

16 December 2012

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The user Linessongs is evade a block on the spanish Wikipedia this user use hundreds of puppets (see, http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Linessongs). Was expulsed for copyright violation, for create original researches. The article of Trujillo, Peru in the spanish wikipedia was cleaned, but after being expelled the user Linnessong begin to use the user Antodeabout for move all old version in Spanish of that article to the English Wikipedia (with all the copyright violations and misleading references). Also, i think that is a puppet of Eagle_c5, banned in the english and spanish wikipedia. I try to clean the article, cleaning all the copyvio, but Antodebout use the same modus operandi of Linessongs. --Cmonzonc (talk) 15:01, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * cmonzonc is a conflictive user that hates Trujillo and all about that city, with a review of his editions in spanish wikipedia it is shown this user is obsessed for years on vandalizing the article Trujillo, moved by his hate in an irrationally way; before he was reported(and he never gave explanations about it to the administrator Tide rolls that requested it in his User talk, maybe now it's time) and also he was blocked 2 times in spanish wikipedia for vandalism acts (he likes to delete referenced information of Trujillo specially if the information is good and important for the city, in that case he deletes the information or somehow he hides it--what he calls "cleaned" and made by "him") and edit warrings both in article Trujillo, and It was demonstrated in a discussion that he is a liar  see discussion and see reports and when he was blocked 2 times. One of his tries of vandalism in english wikipedia was to try delete the article List of metropolitan areas of Peru but it wasn't permited, you can see the Talk:List of metropolitan areas of Peru. The user Andreasmperu in spanish wikipedia told to cmonzonc before he was blocked for vandalism acts: The next time you retire referenced information, you will be blocked. Andreasm 4:41 Oct. 7, 2012 (UTC) and also told to cmonzonc: I'm going to ask you to refrain from editing the article in question, in the past You have shown already inability to stay neutral with the arcicle Trujillo see warning and blockade to cmonzonc.--Antodeabout (talk) 21:52, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

What an amazing story but apparently fictitious, actually the only person who has violated the rules of Wikipedia is Antodebout, and the warnings for other users exists because Antodebout (Linnesongs) caused that war edits (and that is old history), first wars with other users and then with administrators on the Spanish Wikipedia. Unfortunately the attitude with which it acts is the same, violation of copyright rules, etiquette, generates edit wars and a non neutral point of view in his edits. This is a SPI, not for discuss with you, much less answer your unfounded accusations or initiate an edit war, only communicate that the user is doing the same things that caused his expulsion in the Spanish Wikipedia. Is not necessary fight again, like told the administrators on the Spanish Wikiepdia, the administrator Edmenb:…''una verdadera lástima lo que hace el usuario. Me parece que lo ideal sería poner al tanto a cualquier administrador de allá dejando una buena explicación de lo sucedido aquí. Procura no entrar en guerras de ediciones allá, solo intenta dejar un mensaje en el café de la en-wiki para que conste lo que está sucediendo, inclusive, pedir un CU.'' Translate:  A shame what the user do [Antodebout]. I think it would be ideal to acquaint beyond any manager leaving a good explanation of what happened here. Try not to get into edit wars there, just try to leave a message at the cafe on-wiki for the record what is happening, including, order a CU.).... --Cmonzonc (talk) 04:11, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes it is an amazing story but I have shown that is non-fiction, it is real. Everything you say has already been explained in the report to you. And Edmenb is one of your friends that let you vandalize the article Trujillo in Spanish wikipedia, Edmenb, Lourdes, Ganimedes and wikisilki let you vandalize the article Trujillo, but Andreasmperu blocked you for that, Is it fictional?; cmonzonc stop lying don't you ever put my user name in expressions that don't concern to me. I take my internet signal from a university for free as a service from the university to the students so I suppose many users does it, it is not my fault. In cmonzonc's talk page of spanish wikipedia it can be seen that he and his friends seem to be on the hunt of any user that reverts his tendentious editions in the article Trujillo or some other like "cities of Peru", etc. from that wikipedia to block him see, signed by Edmenb and little before he was unblocked by Lourdes with the excuse that cmonzonc had to work in his special page created by edmenb. Shortly before last time that cmonzonc was blocked, because of warnings of Andreasmperu, his friend Edmenb had created a special page so that cmonzonc vandalizes in this page anything he wants it and then replace that content in the article Trujillo, but it seems to cmonzonc it eat his hands to vandalize the article, he could not hold himself and he returned to vandalize directly the article and it was there when Andreasmperu blocked him. At the end he and his friends forgot about that special page created by edmenb and they vandalized the article directly. With the excuse of plagiarism this vandal cmonzonc with his friends have deleted a lot of information in the article Trujillo of spanish wikipedia since october 2012 and till now they haven't added any information in some sections and these are empty after 3 months see economy sections. This conflictive and vandal user called cmonzonc, that has committed demonstrated acts of vandalism when he has removed referenced information and has been blocked for that, really seems to be incorrigible; cmonzonc your demonstrated lies to try to delete List of metropolitan areas of Peru are also fictional?--Antodeabout (talk) 04:27, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * Could an administrator who reads Spanish action this case? I can't read the evidence. Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:16, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I will add a note at WP:AN. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 15:12, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking at it now. &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:29, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Confused, why do we need to understand Spanish to process it? We don't block for es:wp violations or vice versa, so unless I missed something, evidence from here at en:wp is all that's needed.  If there had been an es:wp checkuser proving that Eagle c5 was operating these accounts, that's different, but I've not found anything like that.  Nyttend (talk) 15:38, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * We might not block for actions on other wikis but sometimes their behavior can be used to determine a link. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 15:43, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The context allowed me to actually understand the claims and counterclaims above and see why a check was justified. &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And justified it was:
 * todos ellos están Artículo bueno.svg confirmó que el mismo usuario. &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * (Also, given the obsession with Trujillo and identical behaviour, the bunch is to be Eagle c5).  &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * [edit conflict] Understood, but unless I overlooked something, no evidence was provided that Linessongs (who has never edited here) and Antodeabout are Eagle socks. L and A definitely look like they're the same, but that's not particularly an issue; if we find copyvios being copied over, as alleged, we should block for that reason, and we should pay attention to the frequent WP:NPA violations, like all the "liar" allegations.  Nyttend (talk) 15:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Per CU findings, blocked all socks/sleepers. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 16:05, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing as it looks like everything is done. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 16:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * todos ellos están Artículo bueno.svg confirmó que el mismo usuario. &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * (Also, given the obsession with Trujillo and identical behaviour, the bunch is to be Eagle c5).  &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * [edit conflict] Understood, but unless I overlooked something, no evidence was provided that Linessongs (who has never edited here) and Antodeabout are Eagle socks. L and A definitely look like they're the same, but that's not particularly an issue; if we find copyvios being copied over, as alleged, we should block for that reason, and we should pay attention to the frequent WP:NPA violations, like all the "liar" allegations.  Nyttend (talk) 15:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Per CU findings, blocked all socks/sleepers. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 16:05, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing as it looks like everything is done. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 16:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * todos ellos están Artículo bueno.svg confirmó que el mismo usuario. &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * (Also, given the obsession with Trujillo and identical behaviour, the bunch is to be Eagle c5).  &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * [edit conflict] Understood, but unless I overlooked something, no evidence was provided that Linessongs (who has never edited here) and Antodeabout are Eagle socks. L and A definitely look like they're the same, but that's not particularly an issue; if we find copyvios being copied over, as alleged, we should block for that reason, and we should pay attention to the frequent WP:NPA violations, like all the "liar" allegations.  Nyttend (talk) 15:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Per CU findings, blocked all socks/sleepers. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 16:05, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing as it looks like everything is done. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 16:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing as it looks like everything is done. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;  Join WER 16:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC)