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These all appear to be the same person, with "El Menor MC" (the RD being "República Dominicana") being an Omar Brito/El Polimata alter-ego. The socks are already blocked; the master has been an account for much longer. The master has just created again, under another title, the same article that has been created multiple times by all these accounts under the name El Polimata. That title has been salted, so now the user is going at it with disambiguated names, the latest being El Polimata (singer dominican).

I've submitted the account for blocking separately, as even under that one account the user has gone well over the line with warnings and article recreations, but I submitted this sockpuppetry incident for the sake of documentation.

Largoplazo (talk) 18:34, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * 5 albert square (talk) 18:53, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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I've indeffed this account per WP:DUCK, reporting merely so that it can be added to the SPI page. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

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Sock blocked by ; tagged, closing. Girth Summit  (blether) 14:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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Two edits from this IP user at Draft:El Polimata: one to remove the AFC heading and one to reinsert the publicity photo. No reason to think this is anybody but the self-promoting user himself. Largoplazo (talk) 12:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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Seems like an obvious duck; IP blocked, closing. Girth Summit  (blether) 14:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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Obvious sockpuppet by account name and by subject of interest, El Polimata. Largoplazo (talk) 18:18, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I've put in a request at MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist to have creation of any page with "El Polimata" in it blocked. Largoplazo (talk) 00:19, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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Carlosgori777 is blocked on Commons for spamming El Polimata-related stuff, and blocked on Wikidata. Added another obv. sock. --CrystallineLeMonde (talk) 23:41, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Blocked per his own admission here and/or WP:DUCK. Should we ask a checkuser to see if there are other accounts? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I did ask for checkuser, above! Largoplazo (talk) 18:37, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


 * - usernames and interests are enough to go on for most of them, and Carlosgori777 is obviously either sock or meat. Endorsing CU to check for sleepers, they've created a lot of accounts recently.  Girth Summit  (blether)  12:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Also found and ✅ the following accounts:


 * is the oldest confirmed sock. Moving SPI under the correct master, and marking as completed.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   03:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * is the oldest confirmed sock. Moving SPI under the correct master, and marking as completed.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   03:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * is the oldest confirmed sock. Moving SPI under the correct master, and marking as completed.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   03:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * is the oldest confirmed sock. Moving SPI under the correct master, and marking as completed.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   03:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I've retagged the socks to show the master as El Menor Mc, and to reflect which are confirmed and which are suspected. Closing. Girth Summit  (blether)  11:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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Removed speedy deletion tag from Draft:El Polimata "Cantante"‎‎. Clearly the same person with the same agenda. Largoplazo (talk) 15:17, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * 5 albert square (talk) 17:44, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

01 January 2021


Uploaded Omar Brito image on Commons. --CrystallineLeMonde (talk) 01:44, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


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 * And then he added it to the draft article, Draft:El Polimata, that he continues to edit under different accounts and IP addresses. I removed it and submitted the file for deletion. Largoplazo (talk) 04:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Follow-up: At Commons, the user (improperly) removed the deletion tag from the image, with the edit summary "Me gusta editar artículos que pertenecen a Categoría:Dominican República singer ]] Colocar citas y enlazar palabras como Santo Domingo y países. Decidí ir a Commons y subir imágenes de artistas dominicanos que aún no tienen imágenes." ("I like editing articles belonging to Categoría:Dominican República singer. Collecting references and linking words like Santo Domingo and countries. I decided to come to Commons and upload images of Dominican artists that didn't already have images.") Indeed, the user has edited a number of Dominican musician pages.
 * I let the following note for that user on that user's talk page at Commons:
 * "I read the edit summary you left when you removed the deletion tag (which shouldn't be done until the discussion has ended, therefore I restored it). If it turns out that I'm mistaken, I will be sorry. The problem is that there is a user on English Wikipedia who is El Polimato himself, who is blocked. He keeps creating no accounts to continue creating articles about himself that, every time, end up deleted. Until now he is the only person to create an article about himself or to contribution information or images to the draft. I'm going to add these remarks as well at the sockpuppet discussion at English Wikipedia."
 * "But, one question: You said you find articles about Dominican singers by way of a category. But the draft on English Wikipedia isn't in any category. How did you find it?"
 * Largoplazo (talk) 13:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * On the other hand, the same user identified themselves as the copyright holder of the image. It could be that this is a fan who takes photos and has chosen to post them to Wikipedia, and Google Images doesn't find the photo elsewhere so it isn't necessarily a purloined publicity photo wrongly identified as belonging to the user. Largoplazo (talk) 13:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * In addition: Crismelis is, from the Google evidence, a woman's name, making it appear less likely this is Brito himself. Largoplazo (talk) 13:38, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Relevant links to Commons:
 * Commons:File:OMAR BRITO.jpg
 * Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:OMAR BRITO.jpg
 * Commons:User talk:CrismelisOgando
 * Largoplazo (talk) 13:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * - If this was on its own, I'd say there isn't enough here to seriously suspect socking, but in conjunction with the extensive number of recent and confirmed socks in the archive, this seems worth checking. I also note that both Crismelis and El Menor edited in Spanish.  It's certainly not surprising that fans of a dominican artist would speak Spanish, but it is unusual that they would edit in that language on enwiki. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:56, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Also found and ✅:
 * Bagging and tagging socks. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   20:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Is there some way to get this to flow through to Commons? Largoplazo (talk) 22:45, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Each wiki has their own sock investigation process. You could open a case at Commons:Requests for checkuser, or to get the account globally locked (i.e. on all WMF projects), meta:Steward requests/Global.  It looks like that's already been done for both acconts mentioned here.  See, for example, Special:Contributions/CrismelisOgando. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Is there some way to get this to flow through to Commons? Largoplazo (talk) 22:45, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Each wiki has their own sock investigation process. You could open a case at Commons:Requests for checkuser, or to get the account globally locked (i.e. on all WMF projects), meta:Steward requests/Global.  It looks like that's already been done for both acconts mentioned here.  See, for example, Special:Contributions/CrismelisOgando. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:59, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

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The latest account devoted solely to fleshing out Draft:El Polimata or Draft:El Polímata after El Polimata was deleted four times, once after an AFD, then a G4, and finally salted.
 * 1) User name: though Poliftord, it appears to be a typo because at User:Poliftord appears an infobox with spelling Polifoto. Poli, as in Polimata.
 * 2) The rd at the end is RD = República Dominicana (Dominican Republic), the subject's and author's home country, appearing in another sock name, Elmenormcrd.
 * 3) The editor added a bunch of the same old sources to the draft, many of them bearing exactly the same content as each other, as have been added under numerous IP addresses. Largoplazo (talk) 00:13, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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This user is likely a sockpuppet, based on Commons activity, and the user had a different account, named back then, which recreated the "El Polimata" Wikidata item in March 2021, which has been deleted there previously, and that account got globally locked at April 2021. This Poliftord account interestingly started to do its modus operandi after 3 months of the previous account's activity, which is like a case of WP:DUCK. This user is now banned at eswiki--CrystalLemonade (talk) 16:24, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * , GeneralNotability (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

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Just for the record: user indeffed per WP:DUCK, same obsessive interest in El Polimata‎ as other socks. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Tagged sock., closing case. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 23:09, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

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After the standard 10–12 innocuous edits created first User:AdrianoVizcaino/El Polímata (Singer) and then El Polimata. Has (re-)uploaded two images of the same on Commons, and made numerous edits to the corresponding page on fr.wp. However, also has some apparently OK edits here, so this isn't exactly open-and-shut. Check-user requested in the hope of confirmation. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Right, so I stupidly failed to look at deleted contributions. These include Polimata (singer), Draft:El Polimata (rapper) and El Polimata (musician), which for me removes any remaining shadow of doubt. I've indeffed the account and would like to withdraw my check-user request – they've enough to do without this. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:35, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * Closing per above. Tagged account, . Thanks, Spicy (talk) 18:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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I came upon this editor right after this edit to La Materialista. Looking at their nine contributions up to that point, all concerned with Dominican rappers, I wondered how long it would be before they'd create the forty-eleventh version of an El Polimata article. Well, bang, with the very next edit they did: Draft:El Polimata (singer). With the same references, most of them repetitions of each other. Clearly another incarnation of the master. Largoplazo (talk) 16:29, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * ,, requesting lock, closing. KevinL ( aka L235 · t · c) 01:55, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

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Following a past pattern, this user has within a few days hit draft space with three drafts about the user's favorite subject, about whom myriad articles and drafts have been created and deleted: Draft:Omar Brito De Jesús (singer), Draft:Omar Brito, and Draft:El Polímata. The user has also made an edit to Chimbala, previously a target of sock AdrianoVizcaino. There's the traditional unnecessary disambiguation in one of the above titles and in other freshly created titles such as Mark B (dominican singer), Draft:Sonia Johnson (Musician), and Draft:Elijah Daniel Smith (Composer). Finally, there's the telltale "rd" on the end of the user name. Largoplazo (talk) 12:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

By the way, an entry, added at my request, on MediaWiki:Titleblacklist seems like it should have prevented the creation of Draft:El Polímata. The regex is /.*pol[ií]mata.*/. Aside from blocking that, it seems we should also blacklist /.*omar\s+brito.*/. Largoplazo (talk) 12:46, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * Indeffed, obvious is obvious. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Tagged,, closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 00:46, 4 March 2022 (UTC)