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02 April 2013

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User has been making unconstructive edits to Nazi Germany and other related articles before being blocked Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

A few more likely accounts of the same user: Volunteer Marek 14:46, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
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Another possibiliy is that User:Yamaha Spirit is the same editor as User:Mystichumwipe. There's a behavioural similarity: posting walls of text on talk pages of articles about topics relating to Nazi Germany, sourced to sketchy or little known sources. Sample: Talk:Nazi Germany The Yamaha Spirit account was created on March 26, about 4 days after the DR case on Hitler closed. -- Dianna (talk) 19:06, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I share Dianna's view above. Another possible account of this individual is this one. This user also writes long posts in rambling prose on talk pages of entries dealing with topics on Nazi Germany (e.g. Catholic Church and Nazi Germany), often invokes good faith when engaged in controversial editing, and uses perfunctory sourcing to support his/her claims. Malljaja (talk) 21:18, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * Because of the [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive786#English_Patriot_Man_states_that_he_is_a_banned_editor earlier socking claims], and for having used another sock,, I decided to run a check. English Patriot Man, Britannia Nationalist and Yamaha Spirit are ✅ as one. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 23:13, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yamaha Spirit blocked and tagged. The Huhu99 account (mentioned by Volunteer Marek) has made only two edits but to my eyes seems unlikely to be the same user as Yamaha Spirit . Jafeluv (talk) 00:05, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing more to do. Someguy1221 (talk) 02:10, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

12 April 2013

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This new account started editing 3 days after the most recent set of socks were blocked. Same behaviour: disruptive editing on Nazi topics. User:Malljaja notes that IP edits from this user geolocate to the known geographic location of the suspected LTA account, GeordieWikiEditor. Sample IP diff:. Sample diff from Teutonic Man:. I gotta go to the bank etc but will add more details later if needed. -- Dianna (talk) 21:39, 12 April 2013 (UTC) Dianna (talk) 21:39, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

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Although the subject of neo-Nazism / antisemitism is popular enough that two or more people posting this sort of stuff could easily be unrelated, these ones seem suspicious enough to me that I'm going to endorse for CU. — Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 00:48, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * - —  Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 00:48, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Although I would have prefered evidence presented on the user the check was requested on and the relation to previous socks, I looked and found enough to run the check. The named user and the other socks in the archive are very related. --  DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  01:36, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Teutonic Man indeffed and tagged, and the IP blocked for a week for rather obvious block evasion. Jafeluv (talk) 10:48, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

29 April 2013

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Quick look through the edits makes it obvious it's the same user. Same weird POV. Same weird edits. Volunteer Marek 19:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * The user (as ) made extremely similar edits on Nazi Germany..
 * Compare this diff by User:Mr Wazzick:
 * Compare this diff by User:Shola Slayer:
 * My opinion is that it's the same guy. The IP is in the same range as one he used earlier in the month. -- Dianna (talk) 02:05, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * - - The accounts are different enough that there is potential doubt, so let's eliminate it with a check. King of  &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 22:49, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Very to each other and the master,, . --  DQ   (ʞlɐʇ)  20:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Socks blocked, closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 21:00, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

17 May 2013

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Same obsessive edits in articles about Nazi race theory, and POV-pushing to present Nazis as friendly to Slavic people, use of the same sources, and the same language Example: English Patriot Man edit It's important to mention the Ahnenpass it was one of the main keys of Nazism for proof of someone's ancestry which was said to be Aryan MyMoloboaccount (talk) 23:54, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
 * IP edit there's a lot of nonsense in that paragraph; for a first little correction cf. the article: Aryan certificate

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 * Blocked, closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 11:08, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

30 July 2013

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This new account is pursuing the same behaviour as English Patriot Man and his various socks. Specifically, he claims that Slavs were part of the Master Race and the Nazis only considered them to be culturally inferior, not racially inferior. ; . These edits are coming from a mobile device so they may not match up exactly with the IPs or service providers used in the past. I leave it to the clerk's discretion as to whether or not a check-user is warranted. I feel the behavioural evidence is fairly convincing on its own. Thank you, - Diannaa (talk) 20:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC) Diannaa (talk) 20:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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 * Blocking for obvious sockpuppetry. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:12, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

02 August 2013

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The user continues to sock, both from a range he is known to have used before (82.37.64.0/20) and using a mobile device. I have blocked the range for two weeks and have blocked West Parky‎, Jason smith 123, and Jonnysmoth12345. However I was hoping I could get a range block on the range he is using for the mobile edits as well. If a check-user could give me a hand with that I would appreciate it. Thanks. Diannaa (talk) 21:57, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * - A few diffs for comparison, to confirm this to the checkuser (note the edit summaries): old sock, new sock, new sock, new sock. He appears to be creating throwaway accounts now, and very quickly. Worth doing a CU to find the range and lock it down if possible. Someguy1221 (talk) 08:30, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Not including the IP, these are all . The problem is they are editing from a dynamic mobile range that is too busy to block at the moment. Tiptoety  talk 04:15, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the check. IP is stale. NativeForeigner Talk 22:51, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

08 August 2013

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This account was created on 6 August and is pursuing the same agenda and in some cases identical edits to previous socks. His first edit was an exposition on that Slavs were considered by the Nazis to be part of the master race. On Fatherland (novel) he did a similar edit with a similar edit summary to known sock User:OscarJenke: ;. On Aryanization he is attempting the same edits as known sock User:West Parky: ;. It looks like a fairly obvious duck sock to me. Thank you, -- Diannaa (talk) 01:55, 8 August 2013 (UTC) Diannaa (talk) 01:55, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged for painfully obvious socking. Someguy1221 (talk) 02:00, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

16 August 2013

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I reverted Smashton Pumpkin's edit at Nazism (diff) because it was unsourced. Smashton Pumpkin then posted on my talk page: User talk:Howicus and linked to Talk:Untermensch. On talk:Untermensch, I found the section Talk:Untermensch, which uses the exact same quotes and sources as the post on my talk page, and was furthermore made by the blocked sock User:Gordon Sashty. Unless Smashton Pumpkin has a very good explanation for this, I believe that Smashton Pumpkin is a sock. Howicus (talk) 21:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged for painfully obvious socking. Someguy1221 (talk) 23:35, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

18 August 2013

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English Patriot Man (and socks) is an editor obsessesed with the idea that Slavs in Nazi ideology was considered Germanic, and tries to edit articles on these subjects to reflect that view intermingled with various non-problematic edits (but also of questionable value) to Nazi themed articles. As can be seen from Sarah MFUCs contribs this is also the MO of this editor. A series of seemingly neutral edits to Themes in Nazi propaganda (an article that EPM sock User:Smashton Pumpkin edited in a similar fashion 2 days ago) interspersed with "sneak" edits to other articles reflecting their bias about Slavs in Nazi ideology: 1, 2. Saddhiyama (talk) 11:24, 18 August 2013 (UTC)


 * New suspected sock: --Saddhiyama (talk) 12:32, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * An IP this time: --Saddhiyama (talk) 14:08, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked for 48 hours. -- Diannaa (talk) 14:20, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Another whackamole: --Saddhiyama (talk) 15:12, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked range: 82.37.64.0/20 for one month. -- Diannaa (talk) 16:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Blocked sock: James Liscombe. -- Diannaa (talk) 20:28, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * - Good diffs but not super obvious, let's do a check. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's obvious enough to me (for reasons I will not give here), so I have blocked the sock indef. I still think CU would be a a good idea. If you look at the timeline of EPM socks in the archive, he's basically not even waiting any more. New accounts are registered less than a day after the previous one is blocked. I think it is fair for a CU reevaulate whether a rangeblock is feasible, or perhaps we should put long term semi on some of his favorite articles. Someguy1221 (talk) 01:20, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Essentially ✅. appears to be a sock as well.  Tiptoety  talk 19:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing. Rschen7754 20:29, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

27 September 2013

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Seems to be the same user, with the same focus on Nazi revisionism, synthesis claims against mainstream historiography that Nazis regarded Slavs as Aryan, didn't seen them as untermenchen.IP user uses same sentences previous socks have written. Do note that EPM had a string of sock puppets. Similar reverts of sources confirming that Nazis didn't consider Slavs as Aryan, and attempts at Original Research, using sources that in fact don't contain claimed information.Same string of edits Master Race, Racial policy of Nazi Germany,Aryan Race.

Previous sockpuppet:
 * Almost exact wording used:

In regards to evidence of proof that Slavs were regarded is simple starting that after the invasion of Poland there was an "Aryan District" which was mostly Poles and many Jews lied with 'Aryan documents' pretending to be Polish

there is evidence that shows they were regarded as Aryan, in fact the Nuremberg Laws never effected the Slavs at all

IP user:

In fact, you should also be aware in the case of Poles, after the invasion of Poland the so-called "Aryan side" was mostly all ethnic Poles and some ethnic Germans and many Jews forged "Aryan papers" and tried to pretend to be ethnic Poles to save themselves from Nazi persecution

Slavic people were regarded as Aryans too, the Nuremberg race laws did not effect Slavs

Previous sock Same quote: From a purely racial standpoint all European peoples belonged to the Aryan family and were thus fundamentally "racially equivalent", and even according to German ethnology it was impossible to speak of a "Slavic race"
 * Same quotes used:

IP user: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMaster_race&diff=574843840&oldid=571908062 From a purely racial standpoint all European peoples belonged to the Aryan family and were thus fundamentally "racially equivalent", and even according to German ethnology it was impossible to speak of a "Slavic race". T]

Previous sockpuppet: Himmler says "Untermenschenvolk des Ostens" translates to: "subhuman people of the East" which he was speaking about the Bolsheviks not the Slavs
 * Same arguments used

IP user: After the invasion of the Soviet Union it was the Soviet-Communists that were treat harshly as sub-humans but the ethnic Russians in a pamphlet that Himmler documented were called "Aryan" and were pushed to fight against the Jewish Bolsheviks.

 "the racial theorists in Nazi Germany did still view Slavs as Aryans, including Rosenberg" "But there is nowhere that the Nazis said that the Slavs were not racially Aryans, quite the opposite - they acknowledged the Slavs as racially Aryans." "The Ahnenpass which was to said to actually prove that one was Aryan and everybody in the Reich had to have one included the Slavs in its description"
 * Same claims with same sentences(by previous sockpuppet Yamaha Spirit)"Slavs section needs to be more clear:

IP user statements "Slavs were Aryans": "Slavs WERE regarded as Aryan by the Nazis, do not try and push forward the myth they were not" "There is evidence directly from the Nazis that they regarded as Slavs as Aryan" "Please see the Aryan certificate"

IP again(note almost identical statements to the ones by sockuppet):  "The Aryan Certificate said Slavs were Aryan, the Nuremberg Laws did not effect the Slavs. The Ahnenpass mentions both Czechs and Poles (both Slavs) as examples of Aryans" (these statements are false of course).


 * Several attempts to remove sourced information that Slavs weren't seen as Aryan by Nazis and similar edits in general on the same articles.

IP User:  

Previous sockpuppet  MyMoloboaccount (talk) 19:00, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Re:location, the user now switched to using different IP range, this time from Japan, edits and comments are the same.  --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 13:59, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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I have been following this IP's edits and would have already blocked but for the fact that this IP geolocates to New Jersey rather than England. Behaviourally it seem to be a match in my opinion. -- Diannaa (talk) 22:30, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

His main focus is adding/removing material in an effort to demonstrate that Slavs were considered part of the Master Race by Nazi Germany. This IP seems a little more articulate and has actually added sources (something not seen in previous incarnations), so I'm not 100% sure it's the same guy. Article overlap between this IP and previous named accounts and IPs includes the following titles:
 * Aryan race
 * Untermensch
 * Master race
 * Racial policy of Nazi Germany
 * Nuremberg Laws -- Diannaa (talk) 16:36, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Previous sockuppets also have been adding "sources" like here and here . Like in previous cases these "sources" are either Nazi propaganda taken out of context or don't contain the claim pushed forwarded.

--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 18:43, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, point taken. -- Diannaa (talk) 18:57, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

MyMoloboaccount, I am not a sockpuppet of any other Wikipedia user, I am honest user that edits from time to time. I see that you do not like me challenging your contributions and your weak sources, for example you have now edited on the Folk on purpose because despite the fact the source already mentions Folk (German: Volk) could mean different things you have a so-called source (although its not accessible to view via Google books) as that the Nazis meant only the German nation even though this is already mentioned in the article, this is all because the source that non-Jewish members of the European Volk are Aryans you somehow want to think that Volk only meant Germanic people in this word but it did not as you can see by the whole document of this in the definition of Aryan by Nazi ancestral proof. I have created the new sections via the talk page on the articles you seem to be on purpose editing wrong information on and have a few times created sections via your talk page and you choose to ignore me and report me which is outrageous. Are you just going to keep on reporting me wrongly as somebody else because I am editing information what you are posting that is incorrect? Your sources for the claim that Slavs were not Aryan are weak, not cited and do often interchange the word Aryan with the master race which I have already explained is two very different concepts. Slavs were Aryan but NOT part of the master race and nobody is claiming this as that was only reserved for the Germanic peoples i.e the Nordic race, some Slavs that were deemed to be of ethnic German settlers in Eastern Europe and were Germanised were accepted as part of this, no other Slavs.

Please stop making the wrong move of reporting me as some other user who is posting on these pages and making me out to be someone I am not, I have not broken any rules, I have repeatedly went to the talk page and asked you to talk there and you have avoided this and posted on my wall that you have reported me, so in other words you have refused to co-operate with me and have reported me yet again, please... stop.

I even made Help_desk because I am not having you of accusing me as somebody else simply when I am trying to edit Wikipedia with cited sources and reverting back your weak sources and wrong information, in fact if one takes a look at your talk page User_talk:MyMoloboaccount one can see you seem to remove info and do not discuss things quite frequently, this is not the way to go about things but instead to co-operate with other users and explain your points.

I would like you to co-operate with me and stop accusing me of being somebody else and continuing to revert back my edits with poorly cited sources that wrongly suggest things and do not confirm what the Nazis actually said themselves and what other historians also say and cite.--198.58.112.253 (talk) 18:59, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Note that the above rant is similar to previous ones like here


 * Nazis did not view Slavs as non-Aryan but they were not considered Aryan because of the movements the vast majority of Slavs at that time belonged to (at least in the eyes of the Nazis..I find the way the information on the "Attitude towards Slavs" is somewhat not informative enough, all the stuff I put in is cited by credible sources and I see no reason why it was removed.
 * are spouting out half truths on the Wiki page your first "cited book" didn't say he hated all Slavs, it says Hitler viewed Russians as "Mongoloid-Jewish blood bastardized" NOT all Slavs! Purely Slavic people could be Germanised too''


 * As to different location, note that previous sockpuppets have started to attempted to avoid being associated with the previous location already as it can be seen here: "This new account is pursuing the same behaviour as English Patriot Man and his various socks. Specifically, he claims that Slavs were part of the Master Race and the Nazis only considered them to be culturally inferior, not racially inferior. Diff of Racial policy of Nazi Germany; Diff of Racial hygiene. These edits are coming from a mobile device so they may not match up exactly with the IPs or service providers used in the past. I leave it to the clerk's discretion as to whether or not a check-user is warranted. I feel the behavioural evidence is fairly convincing on its own. Thank you, - Diannaa (talk) 20:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC) Diannaa (talk) 20:14, 30 July 2013 (UTC)"

Also note that the term Folk has already been edited by previous sock puppet as well --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 19:58, 28 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I have added some additional IPs, which may be Cloud Hosting or proxy IPs. -- Diannaa (talk) 14:19, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * These IPs constitute three proxies and one mobile IP, which may also be a proxy. They are also all obviously English Patriot Man. IPs blocked for 1 year each. Editors should feel free to liberally undo everything these IPs have done. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:29, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

21 October 2013

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This is a new account created October 21. Two of their edits are on articles of interest to the sockmaster, removing statements about Slavs not being considered members of the Master Race. ; . Talk page edits are on similar topics but the articles are semi protected. Thanks. Diannaa (talk) 19:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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 * Proxy blocked. Inconclusive but evidence wise is very solid. NativeForeigner Talk 04:41, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

16 February 2014

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I have a strong feeling that user:Windows66 is a clone of blocked user:English Patriot Man, editing in the same topic area under different name. Specifically, he claims that Poles and other Slavs were part of the "Aryan" race and "were not going to be treat like second-class citizens" by Nazi Germany, see, , , , , ,.

Windows66:

Artur Silgailis, chief of staff of Inspection General the Latvian Legion, the Latvian Waffen-SS, in his book "Latvian Legion" (James Bender Publishing, 1986, pages 348-349.

English Patriot Man:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nazism&diff=prev&oldid=568853849 Source: Latvian Legion. by Arturs Silgailis, p.348-349.]

Windows66:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nazism&diff=592318790&oldid=592240314 Poles were 'Aryan', in the districts the ethnic Poles were placed into the 'Aryan side' and were subject to laws such as being forbid to buy or engage in any sort of interaction with Jews ... This is not actually even worth adding anyways, Poles and other non-Germans were not going to be treat like second-class citizens because they were to be equally citizens of the German state just as much as Germans, the Ahnenpass proves this.]

English Patriot Man:

In fact, you should also be aware in the case of Poles, after the invasion of Poland the so-called "Aryan side" was mostly all ethnic Poles and some ethnic Germans and many Jews forged "Aryan papers" and tried to pretend to be ethnic Poles to save themselves from Nazi persecution.

Thanks. Tobby72 (talk) 17:04, 16 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Windows66:


 * It seems to me Tobby72 is that for some hidden reason you are wanting to add more regarding Nazis policy on Poles and other Slavs. ... . No "racial theory" could be used to discriminate against the Poles, after all they were Aryans too.


 * English Patriot Man:


 * This page as it is now is completely biased and does not show the truth nor does it mention how Nazi 'racial theorists' such as Rosenberg considered Slavs Aryan and even complained about the treatment they were getting. What is the hidden agenda why when evidence is provided and shown with cited reliable sources that Slavs were regarded as Aryan the nutjobs on here deny it and simple remove it???.


 * Windows66:


 * As far as I am aware the Nazis viewed all Europeans as racially the same "Aryan". One of the leading Nazi racial theorists Hans F. K. Günther certainly did not have anything against Slavs, nor did Rosenberg (in fact Rosenberg mentioned it to Hitler and Himmler his view about the treatment non-Jewish Europeans were receiving in occupied territory).


 * English Patriot Man:


 * I question the actual racial policy regarding Slavs. Slavs were not seen as a racial threat, they were not even considered a separate race by the Nazis (Hans FK Günther - called "race-Günther" - 1930).


 * Windows66:


 * You have it all wrong, all Europeans were regarded by the law as "racially equal". ... Poles were actually given as examples of 'Aryans' in the Ahnenpaß/Ahnenpass ("ancestors passport") when the Nuremberg Laws became enforced.


 * English Patriot Man:


 * The Aryan definition was not limited to Germanic people, in fact Günther and Rosenberg even acknowledged Slavs as Aryan and not a separate race, Nazis never spoke of a "Slavic race" and here you can see SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE: The Ahnenpaß stated that "wherever they might live in the world" Aryans were "e.g. an Englishman or a Swede, a Frenchman or a Czech, a Pole or an Italian".


 * Windows66:


 * Slavic people were not targeted because of their racial origin, by the Third Reich all Europeans including the Slavic people were racially the same ... You might want to come to terms with the brutality the Poles and Poland suffered was nothing to do with Poles being Slavs but rather that Poland/Poles refused to accept Hitler's terms of being an ally against the Soviet Union


 * English Patriot Man:


 * There is no evidence to suggest that the Nazis thought of Slavs as non-Aryan and you will find nowhere these saying as such, in fact I have yet to find the term "untermenschen" (sub-humans) ever be used against the Slavs.


 * Windows66:


 * Firstly, whilst some historians and authors say the Nazis viewed Slavs as untermenschen (subhumans), I have not found any speeches or documents that refer to them as such. Himmler was anti-Slavic to an extent but he also did include them into the white Aryan race and was on friendly terms with the Russians who fought against the Bolshevik communists.


 * English Patriot Man:


 * After the invasion of the Soviet Union it was the Soviet-Communists that were treat harshly as sub-humans but the ethnic Russians in a pamphlet that Himmler documented were called "Aryan" and were pushed to fight against the Jewish Bolsheviks.


 * -- Tobby72 (talk) 20:56, 17 February 2014 (UTC)


 * More evidence

Same sentences an phrases and arguments Poles were 'Aryan', in the districts the ethnic Poles were placed into the 'Aryan side' and were subject to laws such as being forbid to buy or engage in any sort of interaction with Jews, any ethnic Pole helping Jew(s) were given the death penalty
 * Windows66

After the invasion of Poland in 1939 the streets were straight away rounded into the "Aryan Side" and the "Jewish Side" and any Poles that helped Jews by forging them "Aryan Papers" to pretend to be ethnic Poles were given the death penalty
 * Previous sockpuppet:

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What nonsense. You just can't let things drop can you.

On the Nazism article Slavs being Untermensch "subhumans" is already mentioned, it was already reverted by other people for this exact reason - there is no need to emphasize the fact Poles were (according to the source) and that it did not belong in the "racial theories" section neither. Not my problem if people don't want to read the same thing twice in the same article. It's already been mentioned why the Poles and Serbs revert was done because it was not supported by the source is not true. Why are you even bothered about this when it was to do with me and Yatzhek and not you??? The reason I removed Poles being Untermenschen from the Aryan race article is because it has NOTHING to do with race or the Aryan race there is no need for it to be there.

Firstly, the Artur Silgailis reference is because its previously used in the talk page, what is the problem with this?

In regards to Poles and Aryan side; not my problem if many people have picked up on this since it is out there for anyone to see, on the Untermensch article talk page it is questioned several times by different users.--Windows66 (talk) 18:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Windows66 registered his account on November 3, about ten days after the most recent sock was blocked. Windows66 has a smallish overlap in articles of interest with English Patriot Man, but he is editing almost all of the articles I had watch-listed to keep an eye out for further socking (Aryan race, Master race, Racial hygiene, Untermensch, etc). He has only recently begun to insert the claim that the Slavs were considered part of the master race by the Nazis  otherwise I would have reported myself long ago. I request a check-user to confirm whether or not this is the same editor. Note the user has resorted to using proxies in the past to avoid check-user detection. -- Diannaa (talk) 22:09, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

It's the same guy, this weird POV is pretty idiosyncratic, I really doubt there is a horde of random newly registered users flocking to edit Wikipedia to correct the wrongness about the Slavs and their "Aryaness" who are just appearing out of nowhere all of sudden. When Windows66 says "you were reverted by other users" what he's saying is "you were reverted by my other sock puppets" (some of which may have not even been blocked yet). No Checkuser necessary here, just block these as they appear per WP:DUCK. This isn't that hard.Volunteer Marek (talk) 23:17, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

False. If you look at, , check the User Paul B on the Talk:Racial policy of Nazi Germany he makes a lot of comments regarding people's ignorant stance on Slavs and Nazism. Just because I as another Wikipedia editor focus on certain articles does not make me another user that has been banned. What have I said that is against the rules??? If anything how come the user Yatzhek and his random IP addresses were not checked when it clearly was him, see and you're saying to me you find it not funny that Tobby72 is ALSO commenting on that...??? that is not Yatzhek's or Tobby72's random IP??? Get real here, it is quite clear that these two are connected, virtually always mentioning Poles on Nazi related articles then Yatzhek accusing me of racism, Holocaust denial and other such bs and nothing gets done???

So what if I've edited on articles previous users that have been banned have I've not broke any rules, I've contributed very well with good sources and stuck to the Wikipedia rules. I can't say the same about the user Yatzhek who has accused me of awful things and provided virtually no sources for his alleged claims, see for example and .--Windows66 (talk) 10:30, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

MyMoloboaccount if you actually looked the text is already on other articles such as on the War crimes of the Wehrmacht and the Untermensch articles, trying to somehow claim that similar resorted texts means I'm a sockpuppet is absurd.

Look at you and Tobby72 using the same photo, similar text on the same article of the master race.

I mean look at the Ahnenpass recent edit you have just done to prove your "opinion" that Slavs were not Aryan from an unreliable source, see this.--Windows66 (talk) 10:50, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with me "deleting facts" about Nazis Slavs subhumans, this is not even something I have argued with but when people like yourself are going out of your way to somehow make the claim they were not Aryan then of course it is going to be deleted because that is not true, Slavs were Aryan - deal with it.--Windows66 (talk) 10:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

You see, I find it rather fascinating to say the least that now a few users have decided to somewhat 'gang up' on me simply because of my debate with the articles text and me reverting text that is not supported has now made me accused of being a sockpuppet. I have contributed towards Wikipedia fair and square using confirmed sources, using talk pages to discuss and not simply just reverting. I have in the process been accused of things that are way against the Wikipedia rules by the user Yatzhek and now simply because of some similar edits to an appear to be banned user I'm being accused of being a sockpuppet. I have just for example edited on the Ahnenpass article here as opposed to the previous revert and edit by the user MyMoloboaccount here, surely anyone seeing the difference between the two can see which is more reliable and correct.--Windows66 (talk) 11:12, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Looking at the edits and the same pattens of argument, I am certain it's another sockpuppet attempting to delete facts about Nazis considering Slavs subhumans. It should be noted that in the past EPM used sophisticated proxies to appear to be editing from different countries altogether.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 20:23, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

See similar edits and same statements, Seems to be the same user, with the same focus on Nazi revisionism, synthesis claims against mainstream historiography that Nazis regarded Slavs as Aryan, didn't seen them as untermenchen. He uses same sentences  and phrases as previous socks(EPM had a string of sock puppets. Similar reverts of sources confirming that Nazis didn't consider Slavs as Aryan, and attempts at Original Research, using sources that in fact don't contain claimed information.Same edits on articles Master Race, Racial policy of Nazi Germany,Aryan Race. Some examples I can give numerous other statements and sentences that are almost identical. But it's rather obvious it's the same person. Seems to fall under WP:DUCK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Duck --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 23:59, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Removal of information that Slavs weren't considered Aryan by Windows66
 * Removal of information that Slavs weren't considered Aryan by blocked sockpuppet of EPM--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 20:43, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * From a purely racial standpoint all European peoples belonged to the Aryan family and were thus fundamentally "racially equivalent", and even according to German ethnology it was impossible to speak of a "Slavic race".By previous banned sockpuppet
 * Slavic people were not targeted because of their racial origin, by the Third Reich all Europeans including the Slavic people were racially the same by Windows66
 * Ethnic Poles WERE regarded as fully Aryans and were even used as examples of Aryans in the Ahnenpass by Windows66]
 * The Ahnenpass itself as examples mentions two Slav ethnic groups (Czechs and Poles) as examples of Aryans by blocked sockpuppet

More evidence: Same fixation on pamphlet by Heinrich Himmler: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMaster_race&diff=574917781&oldid=571908062. After the invasion of the Soviet Union it was the Soviet-Communists that were treat harshly as sub-humans but the ethnic Russians in a pamphlet that Himmler documented were called "Aryan" and were pushed to fight against the Jewish Bolsheviks] Members of the SS were encouraged to fight against "Jewish Bolshevik sub-humans".In the pamphlet The SS as an Anti-Bolshevist Fighting Organization published in 1936,Heinrich Himmler wrote --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 19:06, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * EPM sockpuppet
 * Windows 66

Same sentences and phrases and arguments Poles were 'Aryan', in the districts the ethnic Poles were placed into the 'Aryan side' and were subject to laws such as being forbid to buy or engage in any sort of interaction with Jews, any ethnic Pole helping Jew(s) were given the death penalty
 * Windows66

After the invasion of Poland in 1939 the streets were straight away rounded into the "Aryan Side" and the "Jewish Side" and any Poles that helped Jews by forging them "Aryan Papers" to pretend to be ethnic Poles were given the death penalty
 * Previous sockpuppet:

--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 09:19, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Looking at the edits made by you, you and Tobby72 seem connected for example the two recent edits to the master race article are almost IDENTICAL in the edits, see:

Tobby72 edit:

Your edits: and.

What does a "No entrance for Poles" have to do with the master race, that is to with occupation of Poland, Germanization and the segregation in Poland between Germans and Poles (hence why it is in them articles), it is not related to the master race concept.--Windows66 (talk) 10:30, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

If you read the talk pages of anything to do with Nazism there is several people who mention regarding the Slavs...see Paul B's edits for examples.--Windows66 (talk) 10:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I find it astonishing how you have made all these edits MyMoloboaccount:

Master race article -, , ,.

Racism in Poland article:,.

Aryan race article:.

And yet have the nerve to accuse me of being a sockpuppet when despite only having a dispute with one user I now have several constantly making accusations and even editing the related articles with parallel edits.--Windows66 (talk) 10:56, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

<-- This has degenerated into a ridiculous farce where now Windows66 starts accusing everyone who points out that they are a sockpuppet of EnglishPatriotMan of being sockpuppets themselves, of somebody or other. This request doesn't need a checkuser. It's a loudly quacking WP:DUCK. Just need an admin to step in and do their job.Volunteer Marek (talk) 13:34, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

False. I mean look here, yet another random spout from the IP address 91.218.158.26. I am not accusing anyone of being a sockpuppet for no reason. The two users have been using the exact same images, virtually the same text and the same 'defense' for their accusation against me.

I mean look at your recent "change" of my edit, see my edit and your change. Now, have you even read the book itself?

"Initially a general ban on sexual intercourse between Germans and all foreign workers was even decreed." - this does not cover just EE.--Windows66 (talk) 11:36, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

It seems you have something against me for some reason or another, I am included reliable sourced information, the death penalty was extended to even those of Western origin, not just the people in the east.

Anyways, have you actually seen the parallel edits between Yatzhek, Tobby72 and MyMoloboaccount yet you seem to have a go at me simply because I'm editing something you do not like? I'm open for discussion, see the talk pages of the articles.--Windows66 (talk) 11:46, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Obvious WP:DUCK block-evasion. Windows66 is only trying to divert attention from this sockpuppet investigation. -- Tobby72 (talk) 21:35, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment by Tobby72

No. I opened the Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Yatzhek/Archive and yet only a couple of days ago the random IP address posted on my talk page, see here. Just because I dispute what some users are not liking does not make me a sockpuppet. Lots of other users (I have used user Paul B as an example) have questioned the exact same thing. Why can for example people not hold up a debate, see this and this.

It kind of speaks volumes that one cannot debate but rather hold a "suspicion" and start accusing me of being a sockpuppet.--Windows66 (talk) 07:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Clearly passes the duck test. ... Meanwhile, Windows66 continues his rampage. -- Tobby72 (talk) 17:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

A rampage? See the revision reason, and I even created a discussion on the talk page here, it got removed because it has nothing to do with the Aryan race.--Windows66 (talk) 16:47, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * - All accounts in the archive are stale so CU won't be able to tell us much. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:51, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Windows66 is obviously EPM and has been blocked. Any questions regarding this decision should come via email. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:04, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

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1. I have suspected Hashi0707 of being a sock of English Patriot Man ever since he started editing in February 2015. English Patriot Man's main "tell" is the removal of sourced content that states the Nazis considered the Slavs to be Untermenschen and its replacement with unsourced content that has the Nazis classing them as members of the Aryan race. Like some previous socks, Hashi0707 has edited for some months before beginning this activity.
 * : Sock Shola Slayer removes content stating that Slavs are at the bottom of the Nazi racial hierarchy (April 2013)
 * : Sock Gordon Yawny removes content stating that Slavs are at the bottom of the Nazi racial hierarchy (August 2103)
 * : Sock Windows66 removes content stating that Slavs are at the bottom of the Nazi racial hierarchy February 2014)
 * : Sock Cowboy9876 removes content stating that Slavs are at the bottom of the Nazi racial hierarchy (December 2014)
 * : Hashi0707 removes content stating that Slavs are at the bottom of the Nazi racial hierarchy. This is some of the same content removed by Cowboy9876 in 2014.

2. Hashi0707 is editing quite a few of the articles which I have watch-listed for the express purpose of watching for English Patriot socks, including Nuremberg Laws, Racial policy of Nazi Germany, Rassenschande, Master race, and Untermensch. I brought Nuremberg Laws to Good Article status for the express reason of keeping him from doing further damage to that article. Thus I have to consider myself involved; otherwise I would block him myself. Article overlap with the most recent blocked sock (Windows66) includes 32 articles, quite a few (65%) of the 49 articles Hashi0707 has edited.

3. Time of day for editing is the same for Hashi0707 as it was for English Patriot Man and for Windows66 and other socks and IPs, suggesting they all geolocate to the same area.

4. Many of the socks use the same stylistic choice for the username (a name followed by a series of numbers: Windows66, Jason smith 123, Jonnysmoth12345, Sphere1994, Cowboy9876, C super2).

5. Unsourced claims on the talk page that the Nazis considered the Slavs to be Aryan. ; . Diannaa (talk) 17:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

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Obvious duck. --DN-boards1 (talk) 23:39, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Definitely the same user engaging in same edits, using same sentences and sources(either manipulated or Nazi propaganda), claiming Slavs were viewed by Nazis as Aryan and blaming Poland for war with Nazi Germany. Please note that this person used Cloud IP farms before to post from IP's as far as Japan and other places, and behavioural evidence is necessary(see past investigations to confirm this)

Some of the examples confirm this is a sock(some, there are many more that could be used:
 * False claims that Poles were viewed as Aryan by Nazis due to The Ahnenpass(note the use of exact same sentences basically)
 * Hashi0707:

The Ahnenpass used Poles as exemplar of Aryans
 * Windows66(previous sock):

Ethnic Poles WERE regarded as fully Aryans and were even used as examples of Aryans in the Ahnenpass


 * Use of almost exact same sentence when talking about Nazi treatment of Poles:
 * Hashi0707 :

Just because something is wrote in a book, it does not make is true
 * Das-Really(previous banned sock):

Just because you find something in a book does not mean its automatically true"


 * Use of exact same statement and claims
 * Ip sock that was blocked for a year:

There is no evidence to suggest that the Nazis thought of Slavs as non-Aryan
 * Hashi0707:

there is no evidence they were ever described as "non-Aryan" by the Nazis


 * Use of the same source and claims
 * Smashton Pumpkin(previous sock):

Günther and Rosenberg even acknowledged Slavs as Aryan


 * Hashi0707 :

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nazism&diff=prev&oldid=663937458 Leading Nazi racial theorist, Hans Günther,regarded the Slavs as being primarily Nordic] Hans Günther(..)He claimed that the Slavs were originally Nordic


 * Use of the same statements
 * Windows66(one of the blocked socks)

There is no evidence Slavs were non-Aryan


 * Hashi0707

There is no evidence the Nazis ever defined the Poles or Russians as non-Aryans


 * Claims that Nazis wanted peace with Poland
 * Windows66(previous sock):

You might want to come to terms with the brutality the Poles and Poland suffered was nothing to do with Poles being Slavs but rather that Poland/Poles refused to accept Hitler's terms of being an ally against the Soviet Union and also the conflicts and debates regarding territory


 * Hashi0707:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nazism&diff=prev&oldid=663857955 Before 1939, the Nazis objective was to come to a peaceful solution with Poland regarding territory the Versailles had stripped from Germany, most nostably Danzig and Nazi propaganda portrayed Poland in a positive light during the 1930's and continued repeatedly the idea of a German-Polish alliance. When the Poles refusied to cooperate with Hitler and Nazi diplomats then Nazi opinions on Poland and the Poles began to change]


 * Claims that Nazis viewed all Europeans as Aryan/Nordic
 * Windows66(previous sock):

by the Third Reich all Europeans including the Slavic people were racially the same
 * Hashi0707:

The Nazis viewed all the European peoples as Aryan

If anyone wants I can bring more examples of same sentences, statements and sources used.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 19:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@ user:MyMoloboaccount, I've got to say, this is becoming extremely tedious and silly now. Just because I have edited articles where a sockpuppet user has edited on very similar things does not mean I'm the same person. I've even said before, feel free to investigate me and you'll see plenty of differences in my edits. You have no other argument besides resorting to an ad hominem and accusing me of being a sockpuppet.

Now you seem to be hell bent on vandalising articles with inputs like "non-Aryans subhumans Slavs" and other such nonsense and when people revert this you then refuse quite blankly to discuss on talk pages and continue to keep re-adding it into articles. I've created a section on the talk page of articles being discussed and even on your talk page but you just continue to ignore me and because you have no other argument but to accuse me of being a previously banned sockpuppet.

If you bothered to actually look at all of my edits instead of cherry picking a few similar edits you'll see I've contributed to articles such as the Racial policy of Nazi Germany incredibly, including on the Policies regarding Poles, Russians and other Slavs section. In fact, I've recently just edited Hitler's future thoughts for the Slavs.

It kind of speaks volumes when you have proven again you're not even willing to debate with me on talk discussions but on the contrary just continue to ignore my discussions suggestion and then accuse me of being a sockpuppet by simply cherry picking a few similar edits. Take a look at the bigger picture and check out all of my edits.--Hashi0707 (talk) 21:06, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

And how dare you say I said "blaming Poland for war with Nazi Germany" - please show me one single edit of mine of where I have said this! What a ridiculous straw man! I simply said that John Connelly in his article about Nazis and Slavs concludes that if Poland agreed to Hitler's demands the likelihood would have been that Poland would have played the same role as Slovakia did -- a fascist satellite state. Poland was not to blame for the war with Germany and I've never ever suggested so.--Hashi0707 (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Anyone can go to the link I have provided and check them for themselves what was stated. In fact I encourage people to do so.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 21:16, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Your inability to comprehend my edits is not my problem but your responses to me clearly show you have an agenda.--Hashi0707 (talk) 21:31, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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 * Hashi0707 is an obvious sockpuppet of English Patriot Man and has been blocked indefinitely. As per usual with EPM, I will discuss this case via email only. Someguy1221 (talk) 02:54, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

10 July 2015

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The user has edited Nuremberg laws and its associated talk page. This article is one of the perennial targets of the sockmaster, who is interested in Nazi racial policy. He is disruptively pushing for edits to the article that contradict the available source material. In addition to the choice of article, things that make me suspect a sock are the fact that he knows how to use a quotebox template (on his sixth edit); and the choice of user name, which is kinda similar to some of the sock names used in the past (Jason smith 123, Windows66, Jonnysmoth12345, Cowboy9876, etc). On the talk page, he shows familiarity with the content of Racial policy of Nazi Germany, which was heavily edited by most of the sock accounts. I realize the evidence is scanty at present but I believe the huge cost in editor time cleaning up after the previous sock (Hashi0707) justifies acting quickly to prevent disruption. Thanks. Diannaa (talk) 14:49, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User has accidentally edited logged out, from an IP known to have been used by the sockmaster in the past. I have blocked as a duck sock on that basis. So I guess this report can be closed. Thanks, -- Diannaa (talk) 22:44, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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Imagine Paul was blocked as a Duck sock July 3rd by User:Dianna. Doug Weller talk 10:34, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

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I CU confirmed the other 3 as identical to Imagine Paul. Blocked and tagged.

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This user began editing about three weeks after the block of the last suspected sock (Alfhard21257, blocked May 21). He has been editing the same suite of articles edited by other socks in the past: articles on Nazi Germany, with an emphasis on racial policy and sexual relations between Jews and non-Jews (racial defilement). Recent (named account) socks: blocked May 21,  blocked May 1,  blocked April 6. Recent IPs include, ,. A user box indicates geographical affinity with known location of master. Time of day for most of the editing is between 16:00 and 04:00 UTC (late afternoon and evening in known location of master).Article overlap:
 * With Robinson98354:
 * Adolf Hitler
 * Anschluss
 * Germanisation
 * Germany
 * Nazism
 * Religious views of Adolf Hitler
 * Scientific racism
 * Untermensch
 * Template:Nazism sidebar
 * With Alfhard21257:
 * Untermensch
 * With Adolphus Weber:
 * Nazism and race
 * The Holocaust

Specific diffs:


 * August 19: shows an interest in racial defilement
 * August 19: change to Nuremberg Laws: : This is the same edit that has been performed by multiple socks on this article and others. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:58, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Here is a sampling of edits on sexual relations as related to Nazi/Fascist racial policy:, , , , , . This is just from the first couple of weeks of editing; I had to stop for now because I have to get ready for work. I will add more evidence later if need be. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:07, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

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 * I was working on filing a report when I saw that Diannaa had opened this. Here's what I had written so far:


 * is a puppet master with a large number of socks. The edits of both the master and the socks are primarily, if not exclusively, in the subject area of Nazi racial ideology.  The last EPM sock to be blocked that I know of (who is not listed in the archives) is , who was blocked by Diannaa on 1 May 2017.


 * (Note: I did not know about the account blocked later than Robinson58354. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:48, 31 August 2017 (UTC))


 * On 30 April 2017, Robinson58354 attempted to remove, without previous discussion, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, the author of the anti-semitic book The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, from the "People" section of Template:Nazism sidebar, on the grounds that "Chamberlain was not a Nazi and many others influenced Nazi thought, he can't be counted as the 'people' because he was not a Nazi." This was reverted (by me) and a discussion started on the talk page, where clear evidence was presented of the important to the Nazis of Chamberlain's racialist theories. The next day, Robinson58354 was blocked as a sock of EPM.


 * A month later, on 13 June, a new editor appeared,, whose very first edit showed them to be a fully-formed editor, with knowledge, for instance, of how to properly pipe Wikilinks. Sein und Zeit began editing at a significant pace , concentrating to a large extent on Nazism and Nazi racial policy..


 * Yesterday, in an action remarkably similar to that of Robinson5834, Sein und Zeit attempted to remove, without previous discussion, Houston Stewart Chamberlain's book The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century from the "Racial ideology" section of the same template, Template:Nazism sidebar, giving a very similar reason to that given by Robinson58354 for their removal: "the book was only one of many books that influenced Nazi ideology, nothing is explicitly Nazi about it."


 * Given this, and Dianna's evidence above, it seems clear that Sein und Zeit is another of English Patriot Man's socks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:40, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Just to delve a little more into the article overlaps between Sein und Zeit and EPM's socks:


 * Windows66 (617 total edits): 25 overlaps
 * including Nuremberg Laws, Untermensch, Master race, Racial policy of Nazi Germany, Themes in Nazi propaganda, Nazism and race, Vinnie Jones (!!, see below)
 * Hashi0707 (289 total edits): 19 overlaps
 * including Nuremberg Laws, Untermensch, Racial policy of Nazi Germany, Themes in Nazi propaganda, Master race
 * English Patriot Man (master, 89 total edits)): 14 overlaps
 * including Untermensch and Nazism and race
 * Yamaha Spirit (46 total edits): 7 overlaps
 * Scientific racism, Anschluss, Untermensch, Master race, Nazism and race, Nazi Germany, Alois Hitler
 * Imagine Paul (58 total edits): 7 overlaps
 * Nuremberg Laws, Adolf Hitler, Margaret Thatcher (!!), Joseph Goebbels, Ken Livingstone (!!), Enoch Powell (!!), Racial policy of Nazi Germany (see below)
 * Ends meet 2 (92 total edits): 6 overlaps
 * Naziism, Germany, Anschluss, Pan-Germanism, Nazi Party, Adolf Hitler's rise to power
 * Shola Slayer (16 total edits): 4 overlaps
 * Untermensch, Master race, Racial policy of Nazi Germany, Operation Barbarossa
 * West Parky (17 total edits): 4 overlaps
 * Untermensch, Nazism and race, Aryanization (Nazism), Germanisation
 * Smashton Pumpkin (85 total edits): 4 overlaps
 * Nazism, Political views of Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels, Themes in Nazi propaganda
 * Mr Wazzick (3 total edits): 2 overlaps
 * Anschluss, Racial policy of Nazi Germany
 * OscarJenke (9 total edits): 2 overlaps
 * Nuremberg Laws, Racial policy of Nazi Germany
 * Battersy Dogs Homes (9 total edits): 2 overlaps
 * Nuremberg Laws, Racial policy of Nazi Germany
 * Teutonic Man (35 total edits): 1 overlap
 * Adolf Hitler
 * Jason smith 123 (1 total edit): 1 overlap
 * Nuremberg Laws
 * Jonnysmoth12345 (1 total edit): 1 overlap
 * Nuremberg Laws
 * Sarah MUFC (11 total edits): 1 overlap
 * Themes in Nazi propaganda
 * Michael.mills90 (6 total edits): 1 overlap
 * Nuremberg Laws
 * Stressed Much (1 total edit): 1 overlap
 * Austrians


 * Special attention should be paid to the overlaps between Sein und Zeit and Imagine Paul. All the other overlaps are almost exclusively about Nazism and Nazi racial policy, but the overlaps on Margaret Thatcher, Enoch Powell, and Ken Livingstone break this pattern, and show a common affinity in another subject area altogether.  It should be noted that Sein und Zeit identifies on his user page as a "Thatcherist".


 * Altogether, counting each article only once, Sein und Zeit and EPM or his socks have article overlaps on a total of 45 articles.


 * Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:31, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Another example of an overlap outside of the primary subject area is that both Sein und Zeit and Windows66 edited Vinnie Jones, an article about an English footballer. Here, again, like the overlaps on the politicians Margaret Thatcher, Enoch Powell, and Ken Livingstone a common interest is seen in a disparate subject, but this time for a figure not in any way connected with politics.  This too should receive special attention. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * CU-confirmed. and  may want to update the CU wiki, if they're maintaining it, and note that I just blocked an IP they've blocked before. Drmies (talk) 23:13, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Tagged. Closing case. Sro23 (talk) 14:19, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

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This account was created on September 4, two days after the block of English Patriot Man Sein und Zeit. All his edits have been on Nazi topics and UK topics. Already in his eight edits to this wiki he has a 3-article overlap (Neo-Nazism, Themes in Nazi propaganda, Talk:Adolf Hitler) with last known sock (User:Sein und Zeit). The specific edits show an interest in Stalin; ;. User:Sein und Zeit had 18 edits to Joseph Stalin. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:58, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * - Please compare to past socks. Thanks, GABgab 15:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ to the last known sock. Blocked, tagged, closing. Katietalk 19:15, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

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This user has 41 edits and the account was created on September 17 (10 days after the block of the last known sock). There's already two articles in common with recent sock User:Sein und Zeit (The articles are Douglas Murray (author) and Marxism). There's already a 6-article overlap with User:Windows66 (Anti-Romanyism, Economy of Nazi Germany, Forced labour under German rule during World War II, Occupation of Poland (1939–1945), Rassenschande).

shows the same interest typical of this editor in the Nazi concept of racial defilement (sexual relations between Jews and non-Jews). demonstrates the abiding interest in Nazi racial policy. Other edits on Nazi topics include edits to, , , , , ,.

Almost all the edits that are not on Nazi topics are British topics (the known geographic location of this user). For example (British journalist),  (British author),  (British political scientist),  (British politician). — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:32, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Would it be possible to get a CU run on this guy before the data on the previous socks gets stale? We're already having the same problems with him regarding Erwin Rommel on both that article and on Rommel myth that we had with the previous socks regarding Houston Stewart Chamberlain on Template:Nazism sidebar and elswhere -- that is primarily WP:IDHT behavior and refusal to recognize WP:Consensus.  The guy's like a terrier nipping at your heels, and he just doesn't give up.  Smith is clearly EPM, Dianna is better positioned than anyone on Wikipedia to recognize him when she sees him, so can we please have some action on this?  It would be appreciated. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:21, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Since Henry P. Smith has filed a harassment complaint about me on AN/I, let's dig in to the evidence against them. In the course of just 9 days of editing in just 57 edits to articles,  Henry P. Smith has managed to accumulate the following overlaps with English Patriot Man's various socks:


 * Windows66 (617 total edits): 9 overlaps
 * Rassenschande, Nazism, Occupation of Poland (1939-1945), Nazi Party, Forced labor under German rule during World War II, Themes in Nazi propaganda, Economy of Nazi Germany, Anti-Romanyism, Poland
 * Hashi0707 (289 total edits): 5 overlaps
 * Nazism, Forced labor under German rule during World War II, Themes in Nazi propaganda, Nazi Party, Rassenschande
 * Smashton Pumpkin (85 total edits): 2 overlaps
 * Nazism, Themes in Nazi propaganda
 * Robinson98354 (59 total edits): 2 overlaps
 * Nazism, Rassenschande
 * English Patriot Man (master, 89 total edits): 1 overlap
 * Occupation of Poland (1939-1945)
 * Sarah MUFC (11 total edits): 1 overlap
 * Themes in Nazi propaganda
 * Cut To The Chase (10 total edits): 1 overlap
 * Themes in Nazi propaganda
 * Alfhard21257 (10 total edits): 1 overlap
 * Rassenschande
 * Battersy Dogs Homes (9 total edits): 1 overlap
 * Rassenschande


 * That Henry P. Smith has managed to accumulate this degree of overlapping on articles with English Patriot Man and his other socks in just a little over a week, and a touch over 50 article edits is compelling evidence that this is another disruptive sock of EPN, one which needs to be blocked quickly, as they are in the midst of doing their usual IDHT thing on a number of articles. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:03, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * I have blocked and tagged the account based on latest evidence, which in my opinion is strong enough for preventative block (as the disruptive editing is ongoing). Still waiting for input from SPI clerk though. Alex ShihTalk 04:59, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see any need for a sleeper check, so closing. GABgab 15:22, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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Account was created on December 5. In his ten days of editing and 116 edits, this user has a nine-article overlap with recent sock Sein und Zeit:
 * Anschluss (Sein und Zeit had 13 edits to this page; Williams Prowl has 40 already)
 * Nazism
 * Nazi Germany
 * Austrians
 * Germany
 * Germans
 * Austria
 * Georg Ritter von Schönerer: This one seems to me to be a fairly obscure article, yet Sein und Zeit had six edits to the page and Williams Prowl has three.
 * German nationalism in Austria

There's three-article overlap with the master, English Patriot Man: Nazi Germany, Austria, and Austrians. Overlap with other prolific socks includes 2 articles in common with Windows66 (Nazism and Nazi Germany); 2 woth Hashi0707 (Nazism and Nazi Germany); one with recent sock Henry P. Smith (Nazism), etc.

Particularly striking is his conversion of citations to sfn templates on his very first edit ; and he knows how to fix a broken Harvard citation on his second day of editing. This is a precocious use of a technical citation style, and something I've seen before with this master. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:24, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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In addition to the overlaps Diannaa noted above, overlaps with other EPN socks include:
 * Scholesy (49 total edits) - 6 overlaps - Germans, Nazism, Austrians
 * John Bird (295) - 5 overlaps - Austrians, Austria, German nationalism in Austria, Mazism, Germany
 * Donald Ivanov (101) - 5 overlaps - Nazism, History of Austria, Austria, Germans, Anschluss
 * Robinson98354 (59) - 4 overlaps - Anschluss, History of Austria, Germany, Nazism
 * Ends meet 92 (58) - 3 overlaps - Anschluss, Germany, Nazism
 * Maurice Smith (73) - 2 overlaps - Germans, Nazi Germany
 * Mahia Zatrung (72) - 2 overlaps - Nazi German, Austria
 * Yamaha Spirit (46) - 2 overlaps - Anschluss, Nazi Germany
 * Smashton Pumpkin (85) - 1 overlap - Nazism
 * Mr K Kowalski (36) - 1 overlap - Nazism

Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:07, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * ✅ plus:
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:01, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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This is a new account, created January 18. He immediately began adding material on Nazi Germany articles, with an emphasis on race and sexual relationships between people of different races:, ,. Like some of the other socks, he knows how to use notation on his very first edit:. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:25, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:49, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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James Joseph P. Smith appears to be the latest sock of this prolific sockmaster, who has been using IPs most recently.The account first came to my attention when I noticed that they had edited the articles Margaret Thatcher, Enoch Powell and Elvis Presley, an unusual combination. The first two subjects are unexceptional overlaps, but Elvis is a subject of interest to previous EPM socks. In addition, the sock name is similar to that of "Henry P. Smith", one of EPM's most recent sock accounts. This was sufficient for me to take a closer look at the overlaps between James Joseph P. Smith and some of the most prolific of EPM's previous socks. This is what I found (at this point James Joseph P. Smith has 322 edits):


 * Sein und Zeit (749 edits) :
 * Overlaps on 16 articles: Elvis Presley, Margaret Thatcher, UK miners' srike (1984-85), Priscilla Presley, Robert Peel, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Racism, Joseph Stalin, Besarion Jughashvili, Early life of Joseph Stalin, Scientific racism, Enoch Powell, Rivers of Blood speech, Jeremy Corbyn, Simon Heffer, John McDonnell


 * Donald Ivanov (101 edits) :
 * 5 overlaps: Scientific racism [2], Friedrich Nietzsche, Joseph Stalin [2], Hermione Baddely, Moors murders


 * Enoch J Brown (75 edits) :
 * 4 overlaps: Charles Darwin, Racism [2], Rivers of Blood speech [2], Friedrich Nietzsche [2]


 * John Bird (295 edits) :
 * 3 overlaps: Moors murders [2], Karl Marx, Enoch Powell [2]


 * Henry P. Smith (93 edits) :
 * 3 overlaps: Friedrich Nietzsche [3], Karl Marx [2], Tony Benn


 * Windows66 (617 edits) :
 * 1 overlap: Racism [3]


 * JamesRussels (322 edits)
 * 1 overlap: Scientific racism [3]


 * Policja (97 edits) :
 * 1 overlap: Scientific racism [4]


 * English Patriot Man (89 edits) :
 * 1 overlap: Besarion Jughashvili [2]


 * Adolphus Weber (85 edits):
 * 1 overlap: Enoch (given name)


 * Mahia Zatrung (72 edits) :
 * 1 overlap: Elvis Presley [2]


 * Robinson98354 (59 edits) :
 * 1 overlap: Scientific racism [5]

I think this is sufficient evidence to block James Joseph P. Smith as a sock of English Patriot Man on behavorial grounds, but I suggest a CU run for sleepers, as there almost always are when a new EPM account shows up. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:23, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for being on top of things Bbb23, as always. I probably didn't notice the block because I was preparing this report. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:24, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * The account was blocked hours ago (by me). No need for a CU. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 23:18, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I figured. I'm sorry for all the work, but there should be some comfort in being right. If you look at my block log, you'll also see that I blocked another sock of EPM at the same time, so you were right about that, too. --Bbb23 (talk) 00:39, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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English Patriot Man is a prolific puppet master. Lately, as with their previously blocked sockpuppet, EsotericJoe, their technique has been to edit quietly in their preferred subject areas (Nazi Germany & Communism, for the most part), but to avoid some of the articles which they have edited heavily in the past, as once they edit one of those, suspicions are raised, and they are eventually blocked. The current suspected sock, LeftiePete, seems to be following that model. They've been editing for 3 months, and have accumulated 1,755 edits, primarily in the Nazi Germany and Communism subject areas. When LeftiePete's contributions are compared with English Patriot Man's 9 most prolific socks using the Editor Interaction Analyzer, the report shows an 80 article overlap, which is significant given their relatively small number of edits. These include articles which in the past EPN has shown special interest in, such as David Irving, Vladimir Lenin, Anschluss, Germans, Margaret Thatcher and Thatcherism (Thatcher and other English politicians being another of their focuses), and -- notably -- Elvis Presley, which has been edited by 4 other EPM socks.To my eye, the behavioral evidence shows convincingly that LeftiePete is English Patriot Man's newest sock, which is why I haven't asked for a CU. As far as I recall, EPN doesn't often created multiple socks, so a search for sleepers would not be necessary, but if there's any doubt in anyone's mind, a CU should clear it up, as EPM's IP socks have all originated from the same locale in the UK. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I endorse this report - it looks like a match. The Elvis connection is very telling.— Diannaa (talk) 23:46, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My apology for the misspelling. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:06, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Just a thought: English Patriot Man is a perennial puppetmaster, so it might be worthwhile saving some data on them so it doesn't go stale. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:01, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Just to note, everything is stale here, so unless there is historical CU log data this is going to need to be all done on behavior. Furthermore, I fixed the username in the suspected sock list. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:16, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have blocked based on the behavioural evidence. Closing— Diannaa (talk) 01:45, 23 December 2020 (UTC)