Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ethanjesse/Archive

16 November 2015

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Diff of User Ethanjesse blanking the page where discussion on deletion was taking place Diff of same user, Ethanjesse, almost coherently defending the list, basically amounting to "famous people exist" and "I want this article to exist because I created it and I like it." Diff of new user (and my first encounter) EthanDobres also defending this list.
 * 1) There exists a person named "Ethan Jesse Dobres" who lives in Cleveland, Ohio (one of the many topic nexuses they both edit), who is Jewish (turns up in Google searches, "Cleveland Jewish News" etc; and both writers strongly write overwhelmingly about Jewish or Israeli issues). I feel scummy saying any more biographical details about how obviously they are the same IRL person and not just wikipedia users, because my simple shot-in-the-dark Google search also revealed he is only 11 years old.
 * 2) A listcruft article written by one of these accounts was nominated for deletion (by me, Articles for deletion/List of Jews from New York City) and after one account received the notice and defended the article, the other account came on to defend it as well. This is disingenuous and possibly damaging if Ethan Jesse Dobres however he names himself always has two voices in any argument he finds himself in.
 * 3) Both users have such short contribution histories that a cursory glance reveals an abundance of mutual edits on Jews and Judaism in Cleveland, Mosdos Ohr Hatorah -- a completely non-notable small private school, itself a subject likely unworthy of an article, and incidental subjects as various combinations of Bernie Sanders, Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and Jewish Politicians (just not the same exact pages, but same edits and same theme).
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Diff of Ethanjesse adding a bunch of empty lines for some reason to the article about this school Diff of EthanDobres "using" those empty lines ten days later to add a section of cited but horrible written restatement of what was already in the article's lede.
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EthanDobres editing the Jews and Judaism in Cleveland article on Aug 7 Ethanjesse editing the Jews and Judaisim in Cleveland article on Aug 10
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EthanDobres whitewashing criticism of Netanyahu by just deleting it [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_positions_of_Bernie_Sanders&diff=prev&oldid=688452612 EthanDobres whitewashing criticism of Netanyahu by just deleting it. Again.] So many removals of any mere mention of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict by Ethanjesse.
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Additional: I strongly believe in treating all users equally regardless of their age. This list simply does not pass muster just because an eleven year old kid made it, it should be deleted. Likewise, Mandel Brothers created by the other account should also be deleted. However, if both accounts are defending each other, that gives them disproportionate weight in any poll. Thus, I think the appropriate course of action be that EthanjesseDobres should have one account blocked permanently and a strong warning he is not to make any others and make all edits with that one account only. JesseRafe (talk) 22:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Never mind I now support an unconditional block as this user just created User:Ohiostatefan100 to remove the deletion notice templates (Ethan's MO) and also exposed themselves as IP address User:65.189.198.128 to boot. Maybe more? I apologize for extending so much good faith. JesseRafe (talk) 23:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Can someone please transfer the SPI from Sockpuppet investigations/Ethanjesse? I already added all the diffs, didn't know why it wouldn't show up here. Had started from the process of Talk Page warning, didn't know it originated here and was confused why it wasn't listed. Thank you. JesseRafe (talk) 23:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC) JesseRafe (talk) 23:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * I don't understand. You want us to transfer what, and where?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  00:23, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The case was missing a piece, which I've added. Maybe that's what JesseRafe was referring to, i.e., it didn't list the sockmaster at the top.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:03, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I had filled it in clicking directly on the bare link (Sockpuppet investigations/Ethanjesse) created when I put a notice on their Talk Pages and hadn't initiated the process at SPI and when I started to there, it said I had to overwrite something. I'm not sure, I was about to sign off for the day and found out I did it wrong, but didn't want to have to do it again. Hope it's working now. JesseRafe (talk) 14:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * - Please, compare those three accounts per provided evidence.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  18:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The accounts are ✅. Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

22 November 2015

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Puppetmaster Ethanjesse already blocked, as well as his sock EthanDobres and one IP. Blanking conversation about deleting his vanity article, started by blocked user Blanking notice about deleting this page created by blocked user JesseRafe (talk) 18:50, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked for 48 hours. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  20:17, 22 November 2015 (UTC)