Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Faniel.dontaine/Archive

Report date August 15 2009, 18:06 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by ConcernedVancouverite

This group of user accounts appear rather obviously to be either a sockpuppet or meatpuppet from their editing patterns demonstrated in this page history which show similar sets of edits, in very close time proximity, and particularly after one account was reverted the others were then used: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&limit=100&action=history  The edit war this puppet is engaged in has resulted in the page being protected:  Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29   ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 18:06, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Accounts were all created in close proximity and then edited the same article in a similar manner: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&limit=100&action=history

ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 19:14, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Another Concerned Vancouverite: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Another+concerned+vancouverite - Created 19:05, 13 August 2009
 * Citywatcher311: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Citywatcher311 - Created 21:18, 13 August 2009
 * Kike.mlassen: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Kike.mlassen - Created 21:28, 13 August 2009
 * Faniel.dontain: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Faniel.dontain - Created 21:24, 13 August 2009
 * City Bogus: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=City+Bogus - Created 16:12, 14 August 2009

Here are some of the diffs for the edits in question, which were all to the same page, and were all non-neutral in the same direction:


 * Another Concerned Vancouverite: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=307799030&oldid=306502090


 * Kike.mlassen: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=308051286&oldid=308050986


 * Faniel.dontain: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=307819156&oldid=307818043


 * Kike.mlassen: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=307820111&oldid=307819973


 * Citywatcher311: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=307835367&oldid=307822249


 * City Bogus: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=307987787&oldid=307984962


 * Faniel.dontain: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=308050699&oldid=308050041


 * Kike.mlassen: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=308052289&oldid=308051868

And yes, the initial edits were done by a user that intentionally was using a change of my name and attempting to remove the work I did on the article. It then morphed into multiple users all doing the same type of edits.

ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 02:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into it, Brandon. I think the other two are also linked.

For instance the sentence about medical school rejection seems to be of interest to them as well:


 * Kike.mlassen: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=prev&oldid=307888976
 * Kike.mlassen: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=prev&oldid=308052289
 * Citywatcher311: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=prev&oldid=307835367
 * Another Concerned Vancouverite: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=prev&oldid=307818043
 * Another Concerned Vancouverite: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=prev&oldid=307795331

ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 15:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * My comments are just the technical results, I've moved them to the right section. It's up to the closing admin/clerk to interpret them. Brandon (talk) 15:24, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

Huh? Could you provide some diffs please? And it's strange that you reported a supposed sock with a name quite similar to yours. Abce2 | Aww nuts!  Wribbit!(Sign here)  22:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by other users

✅ as and. and are. All the users are in the same geographic region but the latter two don't have any IP/user agent overlap. Brandon (talk) 07:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * Tagged and blocked. NW ( Talk ) 15:41, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions

Report date August 28 2009, 22:15 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Evidence submitted by ConcernedVancouverite

Kike.mlassen and Faniel.dontain have already been blocked, and the article that those accounts were active on is now active with another user named Citywatcher311 created 6 minutes before Faniel.dontain and 10 minutes before Kike.mlassen:


 * Citywatcher311: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Citywatcher311 - Created 21:18, 13 August 2009
 * Kike.mlassen: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Kike.mlassen - Created 21:28, 13 August 2009
 * Faniel.dontain: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Faniel.dontain - Created 21:24, 13 August 2009

There was a checkuser before and IP addresses do not match, which suggests this may be a meat puppet instead of a sock, as the editing patterns continue to be extremely similar. Here are some base edits by the banned sock puppeteer:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=prev&oldid=308052018
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=prev&oldid=308051666

Here is a recent edit from Citywatcher311:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gregor_Robertson_%28politician%29&diff=310596853&oldid=310561967

Please note the deletion of the exact same set of citations starting with the text "This was done over complaints from local merchants that cited lack of consultation and a negative impact on their businesses."

The issue at hand was discussed on the article's talk page and an admin stated, "The bike lane stuff, on the other hand, does appear to be legitimate content that there's not much reason for us not to include. It's legitimately sourced, and presents both sides of a genuine issue — I'm willing to listen if somebody can explain a genuine reason to exclude it from the article, but on my own I'm just not seeing it."

Thank you for looking into this.

ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 22:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Blocked and tagged. Peter Symonds ( talk ) 14:42, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Conclusions