Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Fareed30/Archive

16 August 2013

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
 * Editor interaction utility

Just after User:22 Male Cali ANI was rejected here a new user User:Brinkidiom came in out of the blue and took up the exact same mission. vs. previous editing habits of 22 Male Cali and  Inayity (talk) 21:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.''


 * It is very much necessary as most probably my alleged sock is not even from the same country. And we are dealing with a hardline editor here.--Brinkidiom (talk) 23:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * How do you know you are not from the same country? Have you been recruited? --Inayity (talk) 07:13, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Idea: Why not just file another case on me instead of trying to fix this one? Even Wikipedia is not inclined to file a case on me. :)--Brinkidiom (talk) 00:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * I assure you i'm not brinkidiom. i was only interested in adding this one image (miss usa 2010) but he/she added lots of other images who i don't even know.--22 Male Cali (talk) 00:34, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I can see you did a lot of objecting. I made a mistake when I said you were pretending to edit against each other. You never disagreed period. Even when he added non-Muslims. As long as they were not African and "practicing Muslims"--Inayity (talk) 16:29, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The is a reply to User:Bbb23's comment at the bottom: Yeah. i added your image of 'E. C. Manning Provincial Park' at 1:02 cause i liked it and i hope you don't mind, and then brinkidiom added it to his/her page at 1:06. if me and him are the same person does it make any sense to do something like that at present time? clearly someone is mocking me. Judging by his edits, Brinkidiom is likely not a new editor. notice his/her's edit summaries, appears to me like someone who has been editing wikipedia for a long time.--22 Male Cali (talk) 01:58, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * No clue about what that free image has to do with anything. I previously edited as an IP every now and then, but chose to make an account for this occasion because the troubling editor in question (who filed this case) seems to be a radical Islamist -- no offense intended.--Brinkidiom (talk) 02:32, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Can admins please check and  for possible connection. notice both users write the word "lede" in the edit summary , both users favor Louis Farakhan (leader of nation of islam).  . Inayity left a message to admin Bbb23 pretending that he didn't know how to file this report.  . Why Bbb23? because he is the admin who last blocked Pass a Method  . Pass a Method seems to know the procedure on how to file sockpuppet investigations, he's done this before.  they even edit the same stuff, behave the same and share very similar view point.--22 Male Cali (talk) 04:36, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I must admit i am a little concerned at the racial tone expressed by 22 male cali. Even if he is not a sockpuppet, an editor who repeatedly cites eople's race when race has nothing to do with the equation is probably violating editing policy. I'm not calling 22 cali a racist but the fact that an argument about due weight has turned into a racial debate is strange. Such racist sounding comments on talk page of Islam in the United States to me alone warrants a block of 22 male cali. Pass a Method   talk  08:01, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Not to mention wild accusations of the very thing they seem to be doing. I would support a Admin ANI for the users conduct. --Inayity (talk) 08:27, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The images in the infobox of 'islam in the united states' clearly involves race so there is nothing wrong with mentioning someone's race, and the issue here is that i believe you two are the same person.--22 Male Cali (talk) 14:44, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You have been criticized for making similar baseless sock puppet accusations at ANI. Stop attacking other editors who disagree with you. If you persist, I will block you independent of anything relevant to this report.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Bbb23, if you want to abuse your adminship you may go ahead and block me. 'pass method' said above that i am making racist comments and i had to explain that this is untrue accusation. I find it interesting to see Brinkidiom (who just got banned) make this comment and then Pass a Method ignores that and accuses me. I also find this interesting, Inayity: "... Today they are pretending to edit against each other to throw off the scent. ..." Looks like false accusations are used to impeach me.--22 Male Cali (talk) 15:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Well I did open a sockpuppet case against you, is that also offensive or is that procedure? Please see coincidence time will tell what this means. --Inayity (talk) 16:34, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It means that he/she tried to make admins think that he/she was me. these are pretty old tricks, like the stuff you see in Bugs Bunny cartoons, especially the Bugs and Thugs episode when the 2 thugs (Rocky and Mugsy) hide inside a stove before the police arrive.--22 Male Cali (talk) 17:18, 17 August 2013 (UTC)


 * This all seems highly suspicious, and I do detect a degree of quacking, particularly in the racial overtones of the edits. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 21:34, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
The master and puppet should have been reversed. I'm not sure how to fix that, or I would.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:55, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * There's also something wrong with the template above - the user talk link is broken saying it goes to a non-existant user. I couldn't figure out how to fix it. My observation is that a CU is not necessary.  Toddst1 (talk) 23:50, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I fixed the link, but I appear to have introduced another problem. I'd better quit while I'm behind.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  22:52, 17 August 2013 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I gotta say that this edit and this edit are downright weird (see this).--Bbb23 (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * - to determine extents of socking.
 * Okay, this is interesting. The two listed accounts are on different continents.  But 22 Male Cali is ✅ to match  on technical grounds. Courcelles 03:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * My suspicion is that the two accounts were unrelated but that sleepers might be uncovered, although, frankly, I had no idea which of the two would turn out to be socks. Fareed is the much older account. Male Cali didn't come along until last May. There has been very little editing on the same articles by the two, although neither of them has a lot of edits period. Their interests, of course, are similar. The one article where there is overlap is Pashtun people. Male Cali's first edit was to the talk page of that article. His first article edit on July 1 was this. That edit was reverted by User:Dougweller and then promptly restored by Fareed with a sarcastic and false edit summary. It's also interesting that the edits by the sock are related to an image gallery in the article. Based on this alone, I will block Male Cali indefinitely and block the master for two weeks.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've blocked and tagged. However, this report needs to be changed showing Fareed30 as the master, and although I believe I know how that's done here, I'm going to let someone more familiar with that take care of it (it's just a move, isn't it?).--Bbb23 (talk) 12:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Moved case to Fareed30 and closing. There is a little bit more to the moves at SPI. I believe that is one of the functions reserved for clerks but I could be wrong about that.