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04 July 2015

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Today, both users created comparable user pages listing off their beliefs, and are advocates for the WP:FRINGE site answersingenesis.org (FegelAntics, SamActs319), as well as the evangelical site "www.needGod.com" (with identical spelling each time, FegelAntics, SamActs319). Both pushed for the same awkward phrasing "from the Earth's fossil and geological records which old-earth advocated claim show the Earth is over 4.5 billion years old" (FegelAntics, SamActs319). FegelAntics claimed that he would not go against WP:3RR because of Romans 13, and after SamActs19's third revert but before he was ever told about 3rr, he also cited Romans 13 and said "But a lie is still a lie, no matter how many people believe it", echoing FegelAntic's earlier words "It doesn't matter if every person believes a lie; it's still a lie."

If not WP:SOCK, then WP:MEAT. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:00, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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FegelAntics/SamActs319

Yes, I am FegelAntics. I switched accounts because of the name. Obviously, this one is more fitting. I did so for no deceptive reason or to "sock puppet". Rest assured, if I wanted to deceive, then I would have done so (which I won't; "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor). If it is desired, I can discontinue using FegelAntics.

Thank you for your time.

SamActs319 (talk) 01:03, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * There's still the problem that you switched accounts to continue your edit war. You said you would not violate WP:3RR, and yet you switched accounts to do so.  Did Christ ever tell people "Ok, I won't do this thing again," only to call Himself a different name so people would think it was someone else?  Or was Jesus honest?  Ian.thomson (talk) 01:10, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

--- SamAct319's Response ---

Again, that was not my intention. My apologies, I did not mean to do so. I hope this is shown by the fact I did not continue to edit. Also, I did not violate the policy because I did not edit more than three times, if I remember correctly. I will proceed to verify this. Thank you for your time.

SamActs319 (talk) 01:12, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Now you're just flat lying to yourself as well as us. YOU as an editor (as a person) made the edit three times under one account, switched accounts, and carried out that edit three more times.  You carried it out six times.  If Jesus said that He wasn't going to do something, would He then carry out that self-prohibited action, but only after changing His name to make everyone think it was someone else?  Ian.thomson (talk) 01:17, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid you're in error. If you investigate closely, some of those edits were not on the disputed sentence, and one of them was undoing my edit on that line after I had edit the disputed sentence. I will allow the administrators to investigate this, and I trust they will examine the individual edits I made.

In any case, it was not my intention to "sock puppet", and I apologize if I accidentally did so. I am a morally-conservative Christian, and seek to never deceive. Thank you for your time.

SamActs319 (talk) 01:20, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Here, here, and here, as FegelAntics, you attempted to insert "asserted to be" and "old-earth advocated claim." Then, you promised not to continue.  You then logged into the account SamActs319, gave no indication that you were the same person, but here, here, and here again attempted to insert "asserted to be" and "old-earth advocated claim" -- something you had said that you would not do.  Were you lying when you said you would not edit war, or were you originally trying to let us believe that the two accounts were different users, or do you simply lack any capacity to comprehend how your actions will be perceived? Ian.thomson (talk) 01:28, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
— Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:34, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * User has admitted to being FegelAntics, per this comment. —C.Fred (talk) 01:03, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocking master 72 hours and indeffing sock. After creating SamActs he used it to edit Ken Ham which the master edited later but then returned to using the sock account again.