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POV edits in Armenian articles. Already CU-confirmed and blocked. Blocked an IP too. Drmies (talk) 18:04, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Just wondering, Finley22 Waterman is the oldest account - should I move the case to them, or leave it as is? Also, would you recommend tagging? Thanks, GABgab 22:43, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * GAB, shoot, didn't see that. Thanks. I don't know; it's hard to say if this looks like someone who'll be back. I suppose we should move it, yes. As for tagging, I always think tagging the user page should be a default so that editors who just happen to come across something can be aware more easily, and this case doesn't look like an exception. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:08, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. Moved, tagged, closing. GABgab 00:16, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Additional request from nl-wiki:


 * and : continued on nl-wiki with problematic edits (we will deal with that there no worries). How ever, one editor who addressed the problems now gets cross wiki harrasment from two suddenly appearing vandal socks. Placing (also on en-wiki) pornographic pictures on his talk page. So can there be an additional check done here please? It concerns the following accounts:
 * Thanx in advance, MoiraMoira (talk) 06:45, 26 September 2017 (UTC) (nl-wiki admin)
 * MoiraMoira--de post, de post, wat brengt vandaag de post? Done. Drmies (talk) 11:57, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanx! MoiraMoira (talk) 12:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * For the benefit of those that don't speak the language that should be called "Netherlandish" in English but ain't - and I don't - see Wim T. Schippers. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanx! MoiraMoira (talk) 12:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * For the benefit of those that don't speak the language that should be called "Netherlandish" in English but ain't - and I don't - see Wim T. Schippers. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

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The second account's sole edit was to renstate an edit made by SadiqiBeg Quinton Feldberg (talk) 21:35, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Third account has done nothing but revert edits by. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 21:38, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Per this these are probably socks of as well. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 21:48, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Fourth account is an obvious WP:DUCK. Same sock-ish behavior. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 22:33, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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I would also recommend adding:

Chao Lin and Kareem Han Kwoon. Ninetoyadome (talk) 23:27, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. User:Quinton_Feldberg and User:Ninetoyadome are the ones removing content in a POV fashion on the article Mubariz Ibrahimov. Nonetoyadome is also falsely claiming that they are removing un sourced contents while he is shamelessly removing the content together with the In Line citations.--Syong Lee (talk) 01:34, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * This investigation is about whether or not you have used multiple accounts abusively. It has nothing to do with content. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 01:46, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It's funny how there is only one propaganda site as a source for this ridiculous claim. Even President Aliyev said he killed 5 Armenian soldiers. Its funny how you keep creating multiple sock accounts just to spread this propaganda. Ieven stated in the talk page why that claim was inaccurate, but instead of discussing it you just create numerous accounts just to spread that BS propaganda. Ninetoyadome (talk) 02:31, 12 October 2017 (UTC)


 * If you believe that I made any abusive edits, please provide reference to said abusive edits.--Syong Lee (talk) 02:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Looking through the edits I found a considerable amount of POV edit pushing, Mainly by Ninetoyadome, whos edits are sometimes restored by Quinton. Such as here they are pushing an edit to label the Sport Chovgan as Unesco Iranian heritage, instead of the original Azerbaijani, while the unesco.org link/reference right next to it clearly shows that it's Unesco recognized Azerbaijani heritage. There is also many edits by Ninetoyadome where he removes the Azerbaijani names of towns in the Nagorno-Karabahk region that is disputed between Azerbaijan and Armenia and other cultural heritage articles claimed by both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Examples  Overall impression is that the account Ninetoyadome is used primarily for POV edits regarding topics involving Azerbaijan and Armenia.--Syong Lee (talk) 02:08, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Removing Armenian terrorist organisations from the terrorist category like in this Edit? Seems an obvious Neutral point of view issue.--Syong Lee (talk) 04:12, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * How come you haven't denied the sockpuppet accusation? Quinton Feldberg (talk) 02:09, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I said that it's ridiculous. It seems that by your definition, any new account that disagrees with your edits is a suck puppet.--Syong Lee (talk) 02:11, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * What's a "suck puppet"? Suck puppetry is a red link. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 02:15, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You're jokes are great. I'm laughing in Spanish.--Syong Lee (talk) 02:18, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * A brand new account picking up right where an old one left off is an obvious sign of sock puppetry. The duck test would be good reading. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 02:23, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * More like, meets someone in an online game that says the page for Mubariz Ibrahimov is being vandalised, makes account, reverts bad edits, gets accused of being a sock puppet.--Syong Lee (talk) 02:27, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Unlikely. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 02:30, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, coming from the person who is accusing me in the first place.--Syong Lee (talk) 02:36, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * please block the WP:DUCK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quinton Feldberg (talk • contribs) 02:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, but please mind your edit summaries. Drmies (talk) 14:09, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * please finish the job. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 00:50, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Quinton Feldberg, wtf? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drmies (talk • contribs) 15:52, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * and, restoring edits of previous socks, are WP:DUCKs with or without CheckUser evidence and should be blocked before the master revives them to gain autoconfirmed status. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 16:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Quinton Feldberg see below. That they "are" ducks and should be blocked is up to an administrator. Whether SadiqiBeg/Suleyman are socks of Finley is a judgment call, and I'm not going to make that right now. I blocked the Syong Lee account days ago; I don't really appreciate being told what to do in the imperative., what do you make of this, and of the AZ account? Drmies (talk) 16:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * SadiqiBeg is the same as Suleyman Jafarli. Jerash Jalanian is a sock of Finley. I ran into this after I CU-blocked User:YrantXymbal and User:Mr.CheckYourWallet, but this is getting a bit complicated for me and I would really like another CU to go over this. Oh, before I forget, I also CU-blocked User:Heroes of Robloxia, User talk:TheWindInTheTrees, User talk:Chao Lin. Yeah, it's really cute. Drmies (talk) 00:21, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Gah. I'd say (+) is ❌ to Finley22 Waterman, while  and  and  are very  each other, and very  Finley22 Waterman.  would you agree? -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:11, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * zzuuzz, for Jerash, more than "very", I'd say; there's a couple of dead giveaways. As for AZ--note that 95.140.207.255 is also an IP address in Jerevan. Drmies (talk) 03:31, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Works for me. as appropriate. Closing.. -- zzuuzz (talk) 06:14, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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New account shows up to restore edit by previous sock. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 21:43, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Still an obvious duck. Are proxies in use? Quinton Feldberg (talk) 22:58, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed an obvious sockpuppet. There's some inconclusive things going on, including some possible proxies, and possible meatpuppets. IMO. I've left the other report open, as I'm also taking a look at it, but I'm not sure there's much to add. -- zzuuzz (talk) 23:01, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * This one is technically possibly unrelated to any of the others. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:46, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Already anyways. Closing. GABgab 00:46, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * All three accounts have been created today and all appear to be editing TAMEK rather extensively and adding to what the sockpuppeteer created originally. The only other edits by these accounts are on Turkish/Armenian-based articles - similar MO to TheWindInTheTrees. S. Salim (talk) 21:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Jifner Clyde - Complained about my reversions of a previous sock.  Quinton Feldberg (talk) 12:42, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybel89 - restoring old sock's edits.  Quinton Feldberg (talk) 05:49, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Ötüken 2- First account edited articles created by with similar edit summaries. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 23:24, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Dustum Khan - Second account is a WP:DUCK restoring edits of recent socks. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 23:30, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * TheWaves - Third account edited the exact same articles as previous socks with near-perfect overlap and similar edit summaries. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 23:37, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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Please merge with Sockpuppet investigations/Finley22 Waterman. Quinton Feldberg (talk) 22:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Yea.. no. Not a sockpuppet.--Dustum Khan (talk) 02:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Quinton Feldberg (talk) 02:21, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for merging. This duck needs to be blocked! Quinton Feldberg (talk) 03:03, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * ✅. GABgab 03:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm throwing some blocks around. One editor I can't confirm as a sock is User:Sayın_up_dediler. Drmies (talk) 16:08, 16 October 2017 (UTC)


 * I've merged these reports together. TheWaves is possibly ❌. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:09, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * TheWaves now blocked on behavioral grounds and after conversation with . Drmies (talk) 18:31, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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The first edit was to immediately resume the edit warring here restoring the content that was previously inserted by the blocked account. I'll ping on this, too. I daresay he's succeeded in turning a 48-hour block into an indef ban but I leave that to you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:56, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see, after I filed the SPI he went on to other AFDs and such..., thx Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:20, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * - At first this seemed like a WP:DUCK. However, upon closer examination I'm not so sure. The suspected sock's activity on AFDs doesn't match TheMightyGeneral's normal behavior; I get the feeling this could be a joe job. Sro23 (talk) 17:29, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You are correct--it's that person from Sockpuppet investigations/Finley22 Waterman. Already blocked, and the proxy IP too, for a year. Drmies (talk) 17:51, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing. Sro23 (talk) 18:21, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't this be merged into the Finley Waterman case? Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess so, considering TheMightyGeneral has not socked. Sro23 (talk) 03:03, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * - Could an admin clerk please merge this into Sockpuppet investigations/Finley22 Waterman? Sir Sputnik (talk) 03:15, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅, closing. GABgab 17:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)