Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/FishingKing/Archive

21 June 2012

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A few editors and myself believe they could be the same and it was agreed this should be submitted. Comments proving possible connection below. Chip123456 (talk) 20:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

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SovietMonster was created an hour or so after Ebikeguy. SovietMonster went on a personal attack spree against Ebikeguy and Tide rolls, who had also left a warning for FishingKing. SovietMonster also attempted to remove a rant about admins left by FishingKing on their talk page. While the connection is not concrete, the evidence shows that it is highly likely that the two accounts are connected. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:25, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Chip and Gogo Dodo are right. It's probably an attack account of FishingKing. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 20:30, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Note - Tide rolls and FishingKing have a turbulent past, so it would make sense if FK started a new account to attack TR, so he thought he would not be recognised. .--Chip123456 (talk) 20:37, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Agreed, but TR is an excellent Admin. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 20:39, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, most definitely. I wasn't condoning what FK had done, I was just informing that FK may of started the account to attack, as stated by Gg Dd.--Chip123456 (talk) 20:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * This diff. provides more evidence that the 2 are related. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 20:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * All read mentioned by Gg Dd, but thanks for providing the diff.--Chip123456 (talk) 20:50, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The attacks were made against me very shortly after I warned FishingKing that impersonating a SysOp and placing block tags on user pages was not appropriate and would result in his/her being reported at ANI if such edits continued. FishingKing then left a nasty message on my talk page, and the attacks from SovietMonster started a few minutes later.  However, it also appears likely that an IP was trying to frame FishingKing by making inappropriate comments on my talk page, so this series of attacks could have come from a sock of that IP as well.  In any case it is, IMHO, worth checking.  Thanks.  Ebikeguy (talk) 21:02, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I am very sorry and I hope you aren't too annoyed with me. You have to understand i did a block template for a user out of desperation as nonadmin was coming. This ip like blanked a page every 30 secs. secondly I didn't say chip was a nazi I just said that admins are too bossy. Then too many people said don't use block templates, I got the idea on the first message! I didn't understand what soviet monster was at first but I now know, my brother who is the opposite to me and likes vandalising with our IP, he was using my account after so he could copy templates, turns out these templates were saying that a user was a lesbian and a cross-dresser. I have told my parents and he is banned from the pc, so I promise you this won't happen again. I have worked so hard for the CVU and anti-vandalism causes recently and to get my account punished for something I didn't do would be like friendly fire. Regards CLOSED (talk) 20:17, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Re: "I got the idea on the first message!" The first message predated the most recent instance of template misuse by more than a month. I realize this has little to do with associating the two accounts.  I'm mentioning this as a general observation on this user's veracity.  Tide  rolls  20:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * in reply to tiderolls message. We did have some problems but I had been on wiki for 5 days then so was inexperienced. So you can't really blame me for not having a clue what was going on at the beginning of may. I'm telling the absolute truth as I want to resume my anti-vandalism operations ASAP FishingKiing - Waging War On Wiki Vandals (talk) 20:57, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe that FishingKing is genuinely sorry for what happened. I think he/she is trying to be a good editor and that he/she will make a very good editor some day.  That said, the excuse that "My brother did it" does seem a bit convenient in this case.  FishingKing was clearly upset and angry, and I would guess that there is a significant possibility that he/she lost it and went on a rampage.  Or FishingKing's brother could have done it.  There is no way to be sure.  Ebikeguy (talk) 22:57, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This case has too many doubts, maybes, and ifs. It's not black and white at all, but grey. I would close it for the aforementioned reasons. Dan653 (talk) 23:25, 22 June 2012 (UTC)


 * FishingKing, what you said doesn't make much sense. You said your brother "was using my account", yet your account made no edits during the time that SovietMonster was active.  In fact, you only became active again 24 hours after the SovietMonster account was blocked, which happens to the length of the autoblock.  Coincidence on the timing?  Since your account made no edits, are you saying that your brother was SovietMonster?  And as for these "templates" that he was supposedly copying, none of the edits by SovietMonster were templates.  And there is certainly no template that says  or . Would you like to clarify your statement?  I strongly suggest that you come clean and explain exactly what happened, because this my brother did it thing doesn't make much sense. I suspect that whomever the patrolling admin is going to be on this case will be much more lenient if you explain exactly what happened instead of sticking with the "my brother did it" story. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:28, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I think you've got this wrong and I've got it wrong. It was me I just wasn't thinking and I really didn't know the imp,ovations to what I did as I didn't know anything about sock puppetry. I am generally sorry and deeply regret what I did. I went into a trance in anger and sent all these ridiculous comments to people who rightly told me off. I issued a block template in the first place as no admin was moving and the IP wouldn't stop their vandalism spree. I didn't have direct intentions to do this and did go on that day and thought oh let's horass some people. I was on there anti-vandalising when I got all these complaints for the same thing from a few people. I wasn't referring to chip as a nazi, I was referring to admins as I thought some of the messages were from admins. Im sorry for making up a fake story, that was just me clueless and in worry. Please give me a second or last chance on Wikipedia., as I promise something like this will never happen again. Sorry to all those I offended? Plus vandalism on my IP isnt from me. FishingKiing - Waging War On Wiki Vandals (talk) 08:09, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Endorsed; there's substantial evidence and besides the reasons already given, finding any sleepers would be helpful. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 04:52, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I am reading this right, where "his brother" was using his account after he did? That would make it a compromised account, which brings up different problems. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  00:00, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd also be inclined to read WP:BROTHER. Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 00:06, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I've indef blocked both accounts as admitted sock and master. If FK would have come clean to start, I might have used a month for him, but as it is now, he can't be trusted to not vandalize again, so an indef is the only way to get the job done.  I would also note that I don't believe him when he says the IP vandalism wasn't him, based on similarities in style. Perhaps in 6 to 12 months, he will have grown up enough that he can pursued another admin to give him a 2nd chance, which I won't interfere with.  After all, indef doesn't mean forever, but it does mean "not any time soon".  Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;  14:08, 23 June 2012 (UTC)