Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Forces77/Archive

08 March 2016

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There are a slew of IPv6 addresses as well that this individual appears to be hopping around as well (namely within the 2606:6000:67c6:fc00 netblock).

See the revision history of Daniel Ishag, Karhoo, and Articles for deletion/Karhoo, especially for the IP hopping and disruption. Much of the editing while logged out appears to be getting done to evade reporting to AIV. The persistent uploads of suspected copyvios over at commons are concerning as well.

I know the CU can't comment about the IPs, but the accounts need looking into. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 09:58, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * The three accounts are ✅, blocked, and tagged. I will consider semi-protection of the AfD, which should hopefully quiet the IPs for a while.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:58, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

26 March 2016

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The account came to Daniel Ishag and immediately restored peacock terms that had previously been removed, added references with access dates backdated to before the account was created, and removed all the maintenance templates.

When I restored the maintenance templates, I began to receive a slew of insults/threats from a variety of IP addresses at my user talk. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 04:15, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' Couple more involved IPs: (Noticed those because I reverted their vandalism to Mendaliv's page) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 05:06, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

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I blocked a couple of these IPs for harassment. I blocked the main account for disruption, and I blocked for being a sock of Alticapta (CU, and note how they make the same edits to get autoconfirmed). I have no opinion on the relation to the Forces account, but I'm sure does. Drmies (talk) 04:40, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Alticapta and Verdoline are ✅ to the master. Tagged. The IPs are stale. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

06 April 2016

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If not actually Forces77, then this is connected to the group of IPs listed above involving Alticapta. Compare [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=713855886 this rambling complaint at ANI] (which is weirdly composed of phrases from a couple honest and sensible criticisms currently at my user talk) with edits like [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mendaliv&diff=711983543 this one], which tries weirdly to ride the coattails of a different criticism, and [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mendaliv&diff=711985011 the broken English in this vague threat]. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 06:12, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

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Of course. The pattern I got out of the conduct I attributed to Forces77 at my user and user talk pages was along these lines (bolding added to point out the awkward, idiosyncratic or anachronistic English that I see as this individual's hallmark): Now, I'll try to connect it up to [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=713855886 the ANI post]: Regarding the user's constant finger wagging and provocation of reactions he is harming editor rights and agitating others for discussion of serious misbehavior only to shut it down before it's really begun. While it is perfectly appropriate to discuss content-rooted matters there when the "matters" being discussed include misrepresenting sources, plagiarism and copyright violations, he continues to agitate and probe the community for his own pleasure. The discussion on whistleblowing legislation requires the whistleblower merely to have a 'reasonable suspicion' of wrongdoing, rather than 'clear demonstration' pointing to a need for others to probe Mendaliv for the finger pointing and scathing criticism he is so close to. This post had almost immediately followed a criticism posted to my user talk page (User talk:Mendaliv/Archive 21). Note the piggybacking by copying-and-pasting and slight rephrasing, but in a really grammatically awkward manner. Something similar happened in the Nisabdham posts, and if I remember correctly, it also took place earlier in Karhoo and Daniel Ishag (which are now deleted so I can't find specific diffs).
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mendaliv&diff=711985912 Your attitude to the verdict team, Mendaliv is worse than that of your clumsy leader, Donald Trump. We bare no happiness telling you this. We have no issue with you but your hatred.]
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mendaliv&diff=711983543 We are here for the small man @Mendaliv, Nisabdham will not be subject to your ridicule any longer. We have evidence, Mendaliv.] This post was made in User talk:Mendaliv/Archive 21, the individual evidently trying to leap into another discussion.
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mendaliv&diff=708160827 We have qualified you to be an ABUSIVE, HARMFUL & MALICIOUS member of the Wikipedia community, and have deemed you to used overtly biased and illegitimate editing practices. You have been reported for deletion and our team of helpful heroes will continue to ensure you are not allowed on Wikipedia in the long term.]
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mendaliv&diff=711984555 A male who has committed the greatest fraud of all the guardians. A male who is intent on hurting the small man. A male who takes pleasure in his own great scam. 偽物である男性. ]
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mendaliv&diff=711986260 Does no one take any notice of the systemic nastiness this man Mendaliv is breeding? Moderators please address this issue.]

Now I admit it's possible the earlier posts, which were made by a number of IP addresses on a variety of networks (and a variety of geolocations) may be unrelated to Forces77 or may be unrelated to Gellerone, but the fairly close temporal correlation, the trait of leaping into or piggybacking on an unrelated dispute or criticism, and the fact that, quite honestly, I've not been subjected to any weird criticism like that since I stopped doing recent changes patrolling in 2009 seems a pretty strong correlation to me. Of course, Gellerone has been quiet since, so it might not matter leaving the account unblocked. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. :) —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 03:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

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 * Gellerone is . is ✅, blocked and tagged.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:44, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * , could you please elaborate further on why you believe there is behavioural evidence linking Gellerone to Forces77? I don't see it based on what you posted three weeks ago.  I do concede that Gellerone's ANI comment seems precocious for a brand-new user with only two edits, but given a negative CU result, we really should have some fairly strong and specific ties to support a socking allegation.  —  Rich wales (no relation to Jimbo) 02:10, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * has been off-wiki for several days. Closing with no action.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:44, 11 May 2016 (UTC)