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On 9 September, Franciscus14 was blocked for one week for disruptive editing after receiving numerous warnings (Talk page). On 14 September, WalterP started making changes (Contributions); since then they have racked up their own share of warnings (Talk page).

Both share the same pattern of disruptive editing: unexplained removal of sourced content, replacing profile images by poorer ones, editing stats without updating timestamps – mostly (or entirely even?) at BLP / footballer articles. Both make mobile edits, both never communicate on their Talk page or elsewhere, both never use edit summaries.

Some diffs for illustration:
 * removing content without explanation – same article, Davy Klaassen: Franciscus14, Walter P
 * replacing profile images by poorer ones – same article, Michael Ngadeu-Ngadjui: Franciscus 14, WalterP
 * replacing profile images by poorer ones – same article, Jasper Cillessen: Franciscus 14, WalterP

I can supply more if needed… Robby.is.on (talk) 11:14, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * These two accounts are ✅ in addition to ., closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 22:09, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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Same editing pattern as with previous socks. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Diffs: replacing profile images by poorer ones – same article, Maximilian Wöber: Franciscus 14, Franciscus 14, WalterP, Boliobolia.
 * Further behavioural evidence: no edit summaries, mobile edits. – Robby.is.on (talk) 17:47, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * - In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. ~ Rob 13 Talk 14:14, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. I've added diffs. Robby.is.on (talk) 17:47, 16 October 2017 (UTC)


 * - . Note further intersection here:   . Please indef both puppet and master. Sro23 (talk) 17:09, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * . GABgab 18:47, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * Similar usernames: "Franciscus14" and "Editar14".
 * Updates stats, without updating the timestamp
 * Replaces images by poorer ones (same article here): Editar14 ↔ Franciscus14
 * Removes content without explanation: Editar14 ↔ Franciscus
 * No edit summaries
 * Mobile edits Robby.is.on (talk) 18:36, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

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 * - per evidence provided. Please indef. Sro23 (talk) 20:58, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * , closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:01, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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Same editing pattern as with previous socks.
 * Diffs: replacing profile images by poorer ones – same article, Maximilian Wöber: Franciscus 14, Franciscus 14, WalterP, Boliobolia,.
 * Updates stats, without updating the timestamp
 * Removes content without explanation.
 * No edit summaries.
 * Mobile edits. Robby.is.on (talk) 14:13, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * - This editor has restored Franciscus' preferred images on several articles. . Please block the new sock indefinitely. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:55, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:28, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:29, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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They're back:
 * Diffs: replacing profile images by poorer ones – same article, Maximilian Wöber: Franciscus 14, Franciscus 14, WalterP, Boliobolia,, Tivolinho.
 * Updates stats, without updating the timestamp
 * Removes content without explanation.
 * No edit summaries.
 * Mobile edits. Robby.is.on (talk) 20:37, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * . GABgab 02:05, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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Robby.is.on (talk) 10:36, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Removing content without explanation – same article, Davy Klaassen: Franciscus14, Walter P, FranBolio
 * Similar user name to previous socks, "Franciscus14", "Boliobolia".
 * Updates stats without updating the timestamp.
 * Replaces images by poorer ones.
 * No edit summaries.
 * Mobile edits.

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 * Already blocked and tagged. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:42, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * Removing content without explanation – same article, Hans Hateboer: Walter P, Balalanana
 * Updates stats without updating the timestamp.
 * No edit summaries.
 * Mobile edits. Robby.is.on (talk) 13:42, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  05:39, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * - Most of their edits are generic stats-updates, but the oddly specific removal of an image paired with their username lead me think that this might be the same person. Please check to confirm. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:09, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Tagged and closing. GABgab 21:56, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

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Franciscus14's last sock was blocked in February 2018. Valencianista14 has been active since August 2018. I wonder whether they have been making edits between February and August 2018. Perhaps a CheckUser would be in order.
 * Similar user name as the sockmaster and other socks ("14").
 * Removes images without explanation:
 * Replaces images by poorer ones: at Ivan Paurević Editar14, Franciscus14, Valencianista14; at Jasper Cillessen Franciscus 14, Valencianista14
 * Updates stats without updating the timestamp.
 * No edit summaries.
 * Mobile edits.
 * No Talk page communication.

I can add more diffs if required. But the case seems pretty obvious to me. Robby.is.on (talk) 12:28, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Does "stale" mean the times in which the two accounts edited are too far apart for a CheckUser to work? Will someone review the behavioural evidence? Thanks, Robby.is.on (talk) 08:50, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Robby.is.on (talk) 21:18, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * This case is . CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:09, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes to both of your questions. However, as to when someone will review the behavioral evidence, I can't say.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:11, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * . Please indef the sock. &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 16:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. I leave tagging up to you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:54, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. I leave tagging up to you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:54, 7 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Tagged, closing.. &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 16:19, 9 June 2019 (UTC)