Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Frukko/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
I suspect these IPs to be used by the user Frukko who did not accept to be blocked for one article in May. was talking about the possibility of a range block (here) after several days vandalizing articles. 81.185.172.42 (talk) 20:50, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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 * Hi, thanks for dealing with this again. Face-smile.svg Semi-protection sounds good to me, although it seems to have stopped for now and my protections have expired. If this resumes, a year of semi-protection may be an idea. Basically any duration that makes sockpuppetry more costly and annoying for the block evader than for the people cleaning up. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ~ ToBeFree, what was for dinner tonight? Dare I ask--Schnitzel? Oh, and if you put mushrooms on it it, is that "Jaegersauce"? I am so in the mood for some flattened meat with crunchy breadcrumbs, cooked in either butter (Milan) or lard (Vienna). One more thing: you don't eat Sauerkraut, do you? Cause I will lose some of the respect I have for you. Drmies (talk) 21:50, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Umm well uh,
 * my focus during the week is on breakfast and lunch: Oat flakes with whole milk; salad with cheese and vinegar, or ham cubes and yogurt sauce. Multi-grain buns with any spread that contains red peppers. If I have dinner, I consume twice the normal amount of whatever including sauerkraut, jägerschnitzel or pizza that is available and somehow manage to burn it all away just by thinking and walking. I'm not sure if I'm living a healthy lifestyle, but I guess I'll close the SPI as "stale enough to suddenly be about food". Emoji_u1f605.svg ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:08, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Oh, the veal person--I remember that. IP, if you're wondering about that IP range, it proved unfeasible. Drmies (talk) 21:23, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, Frukko hasn't edited in a while, so I can't really determine if the IPs are related to Frukko, though I can't exclude it. The edit summaries, the attitude, those are very similar of course, and the three IPs all point to the same region: they are all the same person, clearly. There's also a set of IPs that seem to geolocate to Spain, like this one (here on Choux pastry but also elsewhere, and they may be the same as this editor). Maybe the best thing to do is to just keep semi-protection on all affected articles, cause it's a mess. User:ToBeFree, if you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it... Drmies (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * IP, I'm not sure if we answered all your questions but we certainly worked up an appetite., it's cubed and sauteed potato and Conecuh sausage over here--look it up, it's good. BTW one of the happiest moments of my life was when I discovered Geschnetzeltes. I realized then that life wasn't just misery and loneliness; sometimes it's sliced meat in a creamy sauce. Drmies (talk) 22:21, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Frukko was blocked in May from editing the article Agnolotti, this IP is restoring the version of Frukko. 81.185.168.37 (talk) 16:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


 * We can add this IP User:95.249.40.194 to the list of possible sockpuppet 81.185.161.57 (talk) 22:23, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * These IP are from Piedmont like Frukko, they are always editing articles in an anti-French way. For me it is clear that it is the same user. 67.52.114.76 (talk) 15:32, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, I'm sorry to see this person who started this thread falsely accusing me. Xiamichel was banned for sockpuppeting, and I was only banned on the agnolotti channel for edit warring because I removed sentences unsupported by credible sources, but I never used a sockpuppet, unlike Xiamichel. I recall that Belbury had restored the last correct version on June 11, 2023. Agnolotti were not invented in Savoy; that is entirely false. Also, I was not informed of anything until now when I was brought into this discussion. Furthermore, I now see there has been new edit warring, and certain false information has been restored in the article. I kindly request that you take into consideration what I'm stating here. I also want to point out that on the Spanish Wikipedia, Xiamichel and its sockpuppets are contaminating all Italian food articles with false information --Frukko (talk) 17:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * you can check here --Frukko (talk) 17:41, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking about abstract things, and I realize that rebuilding everything isn't easy, but I'm trying. A few months ago, the user User_talk:Xiaomichel began adding false information about Italian food, i.e., not supported by strong sources. This user was indefinitely blocked. Subsequently, this user created several sockpuppets, including User_talk:Juan.Alvarez6 and others, who were also later blocked. But if you read Xiaomiche's talk page, everything becomes extremely clear: the intention of this person and their sockpuppets is to attribute the origin of various Italian foods to France. I have a feeling that the person who initiated this discussion 81.185.168.37 is somehow connected to this whole story (after all, it's enough to see the changes they made). That said, I was rightly partially blocked on the voice Agnolotti for edit warring at the time because I deleted all these sources by the sockpuppets that I considered (and still consider) irrelevant on the Agnolotti page using my account at high speed. However, apart from this, I have never used a sockpuppet in my entire Wikipedia history. Now, since there is an ongoing investigation against me initiated by this individual and I haven't made an edit in months, I am confident that the truth will be restored, and I trust Wikipedia administrators and you. Last but not least i confirm i have nothing to do with the User:212.131.202.194 --Frukko (talk) 23:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - CheckUser evidence may not be used to connect IP addresses to accounts. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:58, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't believe there is much to do here. There is clearly a long-term feud between two camps on this article: they may be two people, or more supporting each other. Since most are using IP addresses, CUs cannot examine their history, and the geolocation is different enough that a block on those grounds alone isn't justifiable; moreover an editor using an IP is not required to stick to the same IP. The page has already been semi-protected, and I also protected a different page subject to similar nationalist feuding over where a food comes from (really?). I'm not sure that the IP is not Frukko, but I can't say that it is, either. I recommend all parties use the talk pages as designed; post the content changes you wish to make, with supporting sources, and invite outside input via Wikiprojects or an RFC to determine consensus on inclusion. Marking for closure. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:12, 14 November 2023 (UTC)