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Both accounts appeared in late July. Both have made edits to the same narrow range of articles concerning Albanian history and geography. The one that caught my eye in particular is Roshnik, where Zemertrimi reverted back to one of GJOLEKA's edits.  Additionally, both accounts use identical edit summaries. For example:


 * 1) "No source to back it up." GJOLEKA: Zemertrimi:
 * 2) "Not from the village." GJOLEKA: Zemertrimi:
 * 3) "Fixed names" GJOLEKA:  Zemertrimi:

I realize this may be somewhat thin, but neither account really communicates other than through edit summaries. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 03:04, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * It came to my attention that on 15 August 2021, the IP 69.166.116.45 made a number of edits (diff1, diff2, diff3, diff4, diff5, diff6)) in Albanian folk beliefs, which were justifiably reverted by Amanuensis Balkanicus; then Zemertrimi appeared some hours later reinstating the same information that lacked WP:VERIFIABILITY (diff1, diff2). Demetrios1993 (talk) 03:32, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * No sockpuppetry here - the accounts do not overlap chronologically. Not saying the accounts are necessarily behaving in a way compatible with the project, just that it's not socking. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:27, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * @GeneralNotability you might want to double-check that :-) Grunge was active on 2021-05-02 and again on 2021-08-12. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I guess that really applies to 15 August 2021 more than this day's report. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:12, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

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Both accounts engaged in edit-warring on Vojinović Tower within a short timespan. First, Zemertrimi changed the name of the site. The edit was reverted, but reinstated by Grunge10: Both Grunge10 and Zemertrimi have also changed the toponym Vučitrn to Vushtrri within the span of several days. Grunge10: Zemertrimi:  Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 15:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * Based on editing styles, I actually don't think this is the same person as GJOLEKA/Zemertrimi. As mentioned above, everyone involved here is giving me strong ethnonationalism vibes, so I'm not sure these folks really need to stick around. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:41, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

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Various Bilius appeared after was blocked for 2 weeks for edit warring. The account started making edits before Zemertrimi's block expired.

Obviously, the first account to be brought up here was GJOLEKA. Zemertrimi has admitted being the person behind this account (Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations/GJOLEKA). Various Bilius has now made numerous edits to the article Zenel Gjoleka. Both Zemertrimi and Various Bilius use the phrase "source falsification" in their edit summaries. Zemertrimi: Various Bilius:  Another interesting similarity is that both Zemertrimi and Various Bilius have excess spacing around their commas. Zemertrimi:  Various Bilius:

If the CU comes back positive, then this is clearly a case of block evasion. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 20:58, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Due to all respect and it can clearly be seen that i joined before Zemertrimi's block had been expired (based on Zemetrimi talkpage) and Zemetrimi has done an edit on Ioannina after he was un-blocked at a time I had already joined. I really did not understand the phrase on how me making edits on Zenel Gjoleka gives a reason for sockpuppetry. the phrase "source falsification" is not a phrase limited to one single person is simply a phrase that can be used by anyone is basic Human Law unless things on Wikipedia work differently. The last one is really not a case to bring up i happen to do it very often during my edits since i use a mobile phone. Therefore if im not Zemetrimi I cannot be Gjoleka since as you stated Zemertrimi has already accepted to be Gjoleka. Various Bilius 21:09, 26 September 2021 UTC.
 * Wrong. Zemertrimi's block expired on 22:07 on 24 September. Various Bilius began editing at 17:54 on 21 September. Judging by this comment, Zemertrimi and Various Bilius also both evidently make very unique use of the phrase "due to". Zemertrimi:   Various Bilius is also apparently aggrieved by 's removal of content that had been added to Ioannina by Zemertrimi.   Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 21:24, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

I am not wrong at all you proved my point Zemertrimi's block expired on 24 September and he had edited in Ioannina after his block expired, meanwhile I joined on 21 September before Zemertrimi's block expired and im still using the account after he lastly edited after being unblocked, don't you think if I was him I wouldn't just go back to the Zemetrimi account? As i said "due to" is also simply a phrase Jesus Christ... it is not limited to one person. And yes I did use the removal of Fon7 in Ioannina in order to leave a message on his talk page as you can see he has twice removed context without a reason. Please use any actual argument with all respect using phrases in order to correlate me with Zemertrimi is just... stupid. Various Bilius

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 * I have blocked without tags Zemertrimi and Various Bilius. I'll leave the CU request and sorting this out to a clerk. Bbb23 (talk) 00:34, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . It's probable, and I don't disagree with Bbb23's decision to block, but there's some differences in the edit-summary style that make me slightly hesitant to call this "proven", and make me think there's an outside chance that these similarities are a result of two people having the same background. Not super likely, but high enough that I'd like to see if CU sheds any light. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 06:15, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * - ~TNT (she/her • talk) 16:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Group 1
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 * Group 2
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 * Group 1 is very to Group 2. ..
 * I note (expected) proxy use ~TNT (she/her • talk) 16:15, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Whoops, forgot to actually close this. Thanks, Sam. Closing. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 02:05, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

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Despite supposedly being a new user, Mbishpall immediately knew how to sign with four tildes and how to cite sources. Other than 30+ edits to en.wiki, the account made a handful of edits to sq.wiki. The account appeared in early January, conveniently just a little over 90 days after the last sock was blocked.

Mbishpall has a descent article overlap with Zemertrimi. Notable are the edits to Kuç, Vlorë, which has had a grand total of 424 page views over the past 90 days. It also happens to be the village in which Zenel Gjoleka was born. GJOLEKA is obviously one of the earlier socks.

Like the earlier socks, Mbishpall adds excess spacing around commas. Mbishpall: Zemertrimi:  :  :  Additionally, both Mbishpall and Zemertrimi suggest that a source is superior if it is "original". Mbishpall: Zemertrimi:  Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 21:15, 3 February 2022 (UTC) Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 21:15, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * There's enough in the CU logs for me to say that Mbishpall is very to . Similarities in editing interest and in writing style are convincing - blocking and tagging, along with, which is indistinguishable from Mbishpall. Closing.   Girth Summit  (blether)  07:22, 4 February 2022 (UTC)