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Has taken up making edits for which sock Aggelos1234 just got blocked. Largoplazo (talk) 15:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)


 * I just added Rijard1234, just now created, based on exactly the same activity and the 1234 user name ending. Largoplazo (talk) 16:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Account . Page protection should prevent further IP socking. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

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The same activity as other socks, such as Rijard1234 and Aggelos1234, involving changing numbers at List of contemporary ethnic groups, particularly the number of Arabs from 450 million to 310 or 315 million, based on confusion of number of Arabic speakers with ethnic Arabs. CheckUser requested because this sock's accounts are proliferating. Largoplazo (talk) 12:59, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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✅ to and :

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:38, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Closing per the above. The SandDoctor  Talk 21:15, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Once again changing the number of Arabs at Arabs, and this user name has the same "geronik" as the master's. Largoplazo (talk) 02:06, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged. Closing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs) 02:27, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

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similar editing style on similar/overlapping articles; the Seal50000 and Nikosgero1717 accounts arbitrarily inflate the population data on a number of ethnic group pages (e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4) and have used identical edit reasons (1a, 1b; 2a, 2b), and all 3 make useless edits, removing then adding back a single letter numerous times, probably to hide a preceding edit (easily seen on their contributions page). RDXL (talk) 21:48, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * All three accounts (Seal50000, Nikosgero1717, and George301102) are ✅ to each other and to socks of Geronikolakis, including for example . . Case will need to be moved to Sockpuppet investigations/Geronikolakis. ST47 (talk) 22:05, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Case moved. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:08, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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same activity as before, changing the same articles to arbitrarily inflate the population count (1, 2, 3, 4) RDXL (talk) 22:25, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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 * Janice7889 is ✅. . ST47 (talk) 22:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:33, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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Repeating same edit as sock user:Theofilos1964. Repeat of same behaviour on Mandinka people. Escape Orbit (Talk) 14:37, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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 * ✅, . ST47 (talk) 14:56, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I should also note that no other accounts are presently visible on any of the ranges in my notes. ST47 (talk) 14:59, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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Repeatedly modifying the population numbers of Mandinka, Arab and French people. Identical behaviour to previous socks. Neodop (talk) 21:20, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅. No other accounts immediately visible., closing. Mz7 (talk) 08:06, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

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Identical behavior to previous socks. Same obsession with population figures, same range of pages e.g. List of contemporary ethnic groups, French people. Edit summaries in broken English with characteristic phrases ("because A is B and C is D"). Austronesier (talk) 15:34, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * I saw this case after I submitted my own today. As you will see, I have identified two more socks and IP edits attributable to this user. His edits are disruptive (edit warring and using his socks and IPs to continue to edit war whilst avoiding 3RR). I am requesting a block of the new socks, and a short temporary range block on the IPv6 addresses that prevents anonymous edits and account creation. I note that the IPv6 range is officially a /32, but if you restrict to /44 or /42 you find edits that appear wholly or primarily by this user, presumably thanks to the ISPs internal organisation. -- Sirfurboy (talk) 11:07, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * - Last three checks for sleepers turned nil (and last check was <1 month ago). Declining, qedk (t 桜 c) 20:32, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * QEDK - Are you asking for an indefinite block on this account? Or are you asking for an analysis of the behavioral evidence? I see that you indicated that it looks like a duck, but you didn't explicitly state your request. I want to get clarification and confirmation of your request as opposed to making an assumption. :-)  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   04:17, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Duck was my behavioural analysis, I believe this warrants an indef sock-block, but that's your call to make. No worries! --qedk (t 桜 c) 13:41, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * QEDK - No worries; I just wanted to make sure. :-) ✅.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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These editors and IPs are repeatedly working together to reinsert the same (unsourced) material on several pages. For instance Tatars, edits since 20 Jan. Also French People where this edit by an IP was a blatant attempt to avoid the 3RR rule by Frenchman1965. The IPs are geolocated to Greece and the subject area and style of editing is consistent with User Geronikolakis who I discovered having found this edit from a confirmed sock of his in October, which is of similar style, in the same area of interest and was, at the time, backed up with IP socksfrom the same IPv6 range. See for instance:. Sirfurboy (talk) 08:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

ETA: And another one. User: GDCBA -- Sirfurboy (talk) 13:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

 ~Oshwah~ , I am not sure whether you or anyone has been assigned to this second case, but I wonder if you could take a quick look at these additional socks and IPs. Even if you don't think Checkuser is required or should be used, it is trivially easy to follow the edit trail between now banned Frenchman1965 and these other three accounts as well as the IPs. Could these be added to the block list please? -- Sirfurboy (talk) 18:46, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Also . Beshogur (talk) 16:30, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * and are ✅ to this master, haven't checked the other reported accounts. ST47 (talk) 15:05, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Fredseal and FylindDFCV are ✅ as well,, closing. ST47 (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

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Almost identical edits by blocked sock User:Fredseal in List of contemporary ethnic groups (shortly after PP had ended).


 * @Hispania MCDLXXIXDL: ,
 * @Fredseal:

Apparently, they are lurking for the PP to end and immediately start with a new sock account. Austronesier (talk) 13:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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Just looking at the edit summaries on the page is enough to demonstrate WP:DUCK:

Today Banned Sock Fredseal last week Banned Sock Frenchman1965 last week
 * 13:51, 29 January 2020‎ Hispania MCDLXXIXDL talk contribs‎ 263,425 bytes -809‎  Because Ambonese have language Malay and Hmong the number is 4-5 million in base the 2020. undothank Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit references removed
 * 12:51, 29 January 2020‎ Hispania MCDLXXIXDL talk contribs‎ 261,907 bytes -2,327‎  →‎Ethnic groups: Because the groups is subgroups of Dayak . undothank Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit references removed
 * 05:35, 21 January 2020‎ Fredseal talk contribs‎ 260,544 bytes -2,769‎  →‎Ethnic groups: Because Ambonese is subgroup Malays and Dayak is ethnic group . undothank Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit references removed
 * 15:37, 19 January 2020‎ Frenchman1965 talk contribs‎ 260,544 bytes -2,769‎  →‎Ethnic groups: Because Ambonese have Malay language and deleted groups who is subgroups Dayak who is an ethnic group . undothank Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit references removed

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 * ✅ plus . ST47 (talk) 16:50, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ST47 (talk) 16:52, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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Both users tag team editing to avoid 3RR whilst repeatedly reinswerting this contested edit. Refuse to discuss in talk, and the edit has been repeatedly been tried by socks of Geronikolakis in the past. Geronikolakis always has same M.O. of repeatedly retrying the edit, not engaging in talk and then writing on user talk pages of those who revert him, saying "please" but providing no sources or reasons (as he has just done on mine). This edit from January is a recent example demonstrating the same edit from a confrimed and banned Geronikolakis sock. Sirfurboy (talk) 10:09, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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As the reporter himself noted, both accounts engage in the same way at Amhara people. Landroving Linguist (talk) 12:16, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * - Worth a check for sleepers as one was found last time and that appears to be their regular M.O. as well. The SandDoctor  Talk 04:43, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Both ✅ to Geronikolakis. . NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:15, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

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same random inflation of population numbers, 1 and 2 - probably worth checking for more accounts as they usually do this RDXL (talk) 18:50, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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Oh dear. Again? Might as well add this one that turned up today at Ethnic group with typical edits from this editor: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirfurboy (talk • contribs)

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 * Both OlusojiJaga and Mandiezxx2 are technically ❌ to Geronikolakis and to each other. It is possible that OlusojiJaga is using a proxy, but I can't confirm that. ST47 (talk) 21:37, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing more to be done at present. Closing. Favonian (talk) 12:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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The usual MO for this sock. He is yet again trying to insert the same information he has been persistently reverted on in French people, Italians, List of contemporary ethnic groups and others. Always the same edits. Refuses to go to talk, and persistently edit wars. As these are the same edits as previously confirmed socks of this user, and as the IPs trying the same edits are from Greece,. CU was carried out recently so happy for CU to be bypassed if an admin prefers to go straight to behavioural analysis. I have also reported userid Vaselineeeeeeee1 as abusive (made to look like another editor). Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:00, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Vaselineeeeeeee1 and Davidnfx are ✅ and blocked. .  Maybe a clerk can look at them? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:35, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked 89.46.255.210 and 2a02:587:6639:ee00::/64 on behavioral evidence. Closing. Favonian (talk) 11:58, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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This is brazen.A couple of hours ago he had two socks confirmed. He immediately creates this one and retries the edits at Italians and French People. For evidence, just look at today's edit history here:. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:10, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * . Favonian (talk) 19:22, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

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Per page history here, the editor is edit warring over the same numbers that this sock always edit wars off. Today's edit warring being a tag team with the IP that has already been blocked today as an obvious sock of this user. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:54, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * I believe that is also a sockpuppet of this same person. Tyrie567...'s only edits have reinstated reverted edits by Blacklister3000. Similarly, the Blacklister account hasnt made edits since the Tyrie one was created. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 22:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I have no idea who this Tyrie567 user is. Most likely such a user agrees with my edits, and is in favor of my changes. There is no evidence of communication between us two parties, and most likely we edit from different IP address ranges. It is very unlikely that we are sockpuppets of the same user. Blacklister3000 (talk) 23:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Please be more careful with your statements. the Blacklister account hasnt made edits since the Tyrie one was created is incorrect.
 * Tyrie567... is ✅, blocked and tagged. Blacklister3000 is ❌.
 * However, the following accounts are ✅ to each other:
 * Blocked Blacklister3000 and tagged all three. Please create a separate case with SuperPoweredChickenNuggets as the master.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked Blacklister3000 and tagged all three. Please create a separate case with SuperPoweredChickenNuggets as the master.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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Usual MO for this sock. See edit warring on this page today. Repeatedly trying to add incorrect and unsourced information, won't engage in talk, mixed with IP edits from a user in the usual vicinity. Edit summaries are typical for this repeat sock. Tag teaming of two brand new editors. . Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:03, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked both the named accounts and the range 2a02:587:6400::/38. Favonian (talk) 19:15, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

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Simafdc's edits are focused on updating ethnic group population figures, as Carry768 and Hispania Dx's were. They also share some characteristic traits: compare how the edit summaries here, here and here suggest that it's the "Citizenship and legal residence" section that's being edited, whereas the revisions are actually to the infobox. The edits are also all tagged Mobile edit Mobile web edit. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:21, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅. Blocked and tagged. – bradv  🍁  01:32, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

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Compare this and this, adding the same population figure with that same characteristic edit summary suggesting that it's the etymology section being edited. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:53, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I've just realised that this case probably should be merged into Sockpuppet investigations/Geronikolakis/Archive. Cordless Larry (talk) 15:21, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

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✅ to Geronikolakis

Would a clerk please move this whole case and its archive to Geronikolakis and then tag. Thank you. — Berean Hunter   (talk)  15:30, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Case merged to Geronikolakis —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:45, 13 May 2020 (UTC)