Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gi22account/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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Self-admitted for KEleison and Gi22account which are often editing the same articles in close time.

https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=KurtSchuschnigg&users=KEleison&users=Gi22account+&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki

KurtSchuschnigg seems likely cased on the shared interest inKurt Schuschnigg and Charles A. Coulombe which also involves CopyVio (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_A._Coulombe&diff=943790594&oldid=941372301) from https://www.tumblarhouse.com/collections/charles-a-coulombe. KEleison (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Home_Temple_Movement&diff=1009063589&oldid=1008770898) and Gi22account both have a history of copy vio additions.

Pipstrang seems likely as well https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stephan_A._Hoeller&action=history https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Pripstang&users=KEleison&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki

I'd think there are more. Pipsally (talk) 05:32, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Quite honestly not sure of any other accounts I had before this. If anything User:Kurt Schuschnigg might belong to a friend I used to have come over to my house regularly who introduced me to coulombe though that would be a strange connection considering how Coulombe talks in his podcasts about Austria considering that he does live in Austria. But then again that could be another person entirely. For the Pipstrang account, I am literally unsure of anyone who I would know who would talk about neo-Gnosticism... that category does not apply to anyone I know. Never even heard of neo-Gnosticism until late last year honestly. At this point it looks like you have a vendetta against me for an unknown reason as you are reporting copy violation on multiple of my articles which cannot be changed, changing my talk page around, and literally investing into everything and everyone about any topics which I had edited. You literally edited a topic I redirected to a minute after I did so and falsely accused someone else's topic of copy violation. This is borderline weird at this point, at max I could have an association to one person's account here besides User:Gi22account which I changed to due password reasons... Therefore it would be great to get a CheckUser to investigate this which should pop up only Gi22account and the other account if it was my friend who edited which is unlikely though... Before this the last time I edited on Wikipedia was years ago on an old old account which I cannot remember about topics relating to computer development and server hosting specifically with the Lua script...

Even if one account is related, I just checked that user's history and they have edited 7 articles without vandalism. So I don't know what claims of sockpuppetry are being made here... You accuse me of one copy violation which was due to a few words which was changed at the time quickly. The other minor one was due to one source containing a line or so that was similar. Even if one account is related, I just checked that user's history and they have edited 7 articles without vandalism. So I don't know what claims of sockpuppetry are being made here, who's abusing accounts?... KEleison (talk) 05:44, 24 March 2021 (UTC)]] (talk) 05:44, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Might have belonged to a friend I had over to my house... Pipsally (talk) 05:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Swearing on my life right now... only reason I looked into Schuschnigg was because I picked up a new book called Alone Against Hitler. You're forcing me to make random connections at 1:55 in the morning to things I am probably getting wrong because I don't quite care about small details like that. What's your obsession with me anyways because you just ran into one of my edits then hopped onto mt profile, literally clicked every link and investigated my whole edit history and wrote unjustified copy violations while not allowing me to speak up and defend myself, instead, being rude, changing the topic and using vulgarity. Please just tell me what I did to offend you? KEleison (talk) 05:54, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I mean at this point this is harassment, you undo a bunch of edits which I wasn't going to change because some were understandable, copyviolate two edits which I attempted to explain how they are free use and have given you two modified versions to use. After that, you proceed to ignore what I wrote, go on to use vulgarity and change the entire topic around. Investigate every inch of my account and force me to make connections which I don't know are valid at 2:02 AM, copyviolate an article (Charles A. Coulombe) which Vincent Frankini, owner of Tumblar House has approved for use on his YouTube channel before. And then proceed to do this now... Like I said, I had no problem with your valid edits on some articles, then by not listening to me and reporting articles as copy violate (which if that was the case, delete every diocese article on Wikipedia), claim copyviolation on some other articles, etc. And for this to be going on for something that could been a User talk post?


 * And what is with the statement editing articles in close time. That's literally not true, on about the day I stopped using that account, I made this one...


 * As a matter of fact I

checked out the guidelines for Sockpuppet investigations and none of these apply,


 * Logging out to make problematic edits as an IP address


 * No IP addresses have ever been used by me I think if anything.


 * Creating new accounts to avoid detection or sanctions


 * Never gotten any sanctions nor are there sanctions on those claimed accounts.


 * Using another person's account (piggybacking)Reviving old unused accounts (sometimes referred to as sleepers) and presenting them as different users


 * All of those accounts are older than mine, I don't know about the last guy because I can't check his edit history.


 * Also none of the other policies for sockpuppeting match up with these accounts even if they somehow matched up which I doubt they would all match up, now that I can swear on, especially the neo-Gnostic editor...


 * You try to write articles up for copyvio and even start this sockpuppet article without notifying me in my talk page or notifying the copy violation Wikipedia reporting page. I had to check your page just to find out that you started these things...


 * At this point of absurdity we can just say you and Pipstrang share the same IP because you have the same name. This is the level of absurdity that we have reached. Instead of discussing things on my talk page that I attempted over and over to reason with you with that you ignored and went on to attack my articles and my other account's talk page. You instead basically harass my account and people I seen online who's articles I have edited are not related to me in real life in any shape or form at most, very limited communication on Instagram.

KEleison (talk) 06:03, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You tagged the articles to the copyvio page yourself, so there was then no need for me to do so. Both your talk pages were tagged wghere relevant.Pipsally (talk) 06:22, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * So why not handle the problem like I had proposed the solution to? Go review the talk page, you made no attempt of reason. Also, what kind of an excuse is because I did it... I did it because it was literally hours that passed and you didn't do it although were supposed to which I saw as an attempt of privately just doing this KEleison (talk) 06:24, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * But like you requested, I do want a CheckUser to verify these accounts aren't mine. Then can we put an end to all this fighting? Cause these things are just random WP:Duckish accusations (I don't know if this is the right terminology). KEleison (talk) 07:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * * " might belong to a friend I used to have come over to my house regularly"
 * * "max I could have an association to one person's account here besides User:Gi22account"
 * * " last time I edited on Wikipedia was years ago on an old old account"


 * That's Pipsally (talk) 07:39, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * and are too  for checkuser data to be pulled. That aside, if Gi22account created another account and began editing as KEleison, and has disclosed this information on their user pages - there's no violation of Wikipedia's sock puppetry policy  here. By disclosing the main account's alternative account, this user hasn't done anything wrong. I don't see what action is needed - there's simply not enough evidence to move forward with anything here. Closing SPI report...  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   07:36, 24 March 2021 (UTC)