Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gobautista/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
Misusing multiple accounts without legitimate reason. As self-admitted openly by sockmaster previously on previous revision of their userpage since 7 July 2022 which was changed immediately today after an IP questioned the sockmaster. And also in their signature since around the same timeframe. Another alarm is the strangely similar userboxes usage and exactly the same topic of interest which certainly isn't coincidence between both accounts. Also noticed that, Draft:YARA (group) was created with copyvio image uploaded by sockpuppet Evotista which again isn't coincidence since the sockmaster was blocked for uploading copyvio on Commons per block log. What's even more suspicious is at WP:RPPI where both the sockmaster and sockpuppet within 7 minutes of each other requesting protection for the same article and guess what with the same signature as seen here and here which is abnormal and certainly not coincidence.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  14:43, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Further findings shows that the first revision of sockpuppet Evotista's userpage is created with linking to the sockmaster where clicking "Evotista (talk)" directs to the sockmaster userpage. And also, the sockpuppet userpage on Commons displayed exactly the name of the sockmaster as seen here.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  15:58, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

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 * I've just gone ahead and blocked, seems likely. 331dot (talk) 14:48, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @331dot Noted, will let SPI clerk see if they would like to proceed further to check for any existance of other accounts and noting that on sockmaster's talk page there is seemingly a off-wiki coordinated editing team which is certainly alarming.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  14:53, 13 March 2023 (UTC)


 * 2A01:4C8:49:B2A2:D8D9:97FF:FE57:E2CC (talk) 14:57, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * recently retweeted, including this tweet and this tweet about their client, SB19. 2A01:4C8:49:B2A2:D8D9:97FF:FE57:E2CC (talk) 15:53, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * And it's all being discussed now by : . 2A01:4C8:49:B2A2:D8D9:97FF:FE57:E2CC (talk) 15:59, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @2A01:4C8:49:B2A2:D8D9:97FF:FE57:E2CC This isn't the correct venue to discuss on paid editing and/or COI matters, please read WP:PAID for the correct venue to discuss further.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  16:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * While this seems to be an unacknowledged alternate account, I can't see that it is an illegitimate use of an alternate account. The second account was rarely used and not on occasions like deletion discussions (although the WP:RPPI request was questionable). And while there seems to be a COI involved here, that is not necessarily proof of paid editing. It seems like this entertainment company really tries to harness the activities of their fans and this just could be the work of the supporter of this musical group. This is a long-time editor and I'd like to see more checkuser evidence of sustained use of sockpuppets to justify an indefinite block. The COI is another issue that can be taken up on WP:COIN. Liz Read! Talk! 21:31, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems they gave up pretty easily instead of defending themselves further. 331dot (talk) 23:04, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The second account was illegitimately used to evade a Commons block on Gobautista, post photos of the band and its members, and then link them to articles here created by Gobautista. When I asked them about the second account, they didn't reply, but only removed mentions of Evotista (and their Twitter account) from their user page, and reverted the UPE tags flagged by SB19 Wikipedia Team, as noted next.
 * The offline coordination is another problem. If you have a look at the thread on (for which Evotista is listed as the first follower), particularly this Tweet where it says "Just undo it or discuss it in the "Talk Section" exactly who flagged", that's pretty clear offline coordination. Gobautista then repeatedly reverts the tags, and only on the articles flagged by SB19 Wikipedia Team.
 * On this Tweet by SB19 Wikipedia Team, they discuss an image copyright problem. Gobautista has replaced the delinked JustinTime image with another, then changes to another JustinTime image a few days later. Both are old images, but the offline coordination is still clear.
 * Also, in the RPPI already noted above, Gobautista posted "As one of the admins managing public information about SB19... We appreciate your immediate action." 2A01:4C8:49:B2A2:60DA:A8FF:FE05:8F09 (talk) 06:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Yamla Why going crazy to that user I don’t even know, mastering your power-tripping ability using your power as admin? Make sure before blocking someone else, and anybody's account make sure that you investigate it properly with solid evidence. I just laughing that your evidence is Twitter. What a shame to the Wikipedia admins. This is not my concern. This is your concern to @gobautista alone. I will distance myself from this problem. This is not my issue; don't ever put me to this concern. I'm living my life here, drinking coffee while eating popcorn. Evotista (talk) 09:52, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Yamla @331dot I'll be honest. I don't know @gobautista personally. I am the fan of SB19, I used to check the information of SB19 if its correct or not. I know @gobautista because I message him. He is a fan of Pinoy Poy Music, and a content writer promoting Philippine arts and culture. I saw him actively editing SB19 wikipedia page. That's the story. Next time don't used your emotion for judging dedicated contributor for more that 10 years. He is an active supporter of wikipedia organization. Thank you. Evotista (talk) 10:10, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You say you don't know him and then you say that you talk to him. 331dot (talk) 11:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Note that is blocked but  is not currently blocked. Is that deliberate? --Yamla (talk) 15:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Evotista is ✅ to Gobautista. --Yamla (talk) 10:27, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I also ran a check and agree with Yamla that Gobautista and Evotista are ✅ to each other. This is a pretty strange case. Looking solely at the behavior on the English Wikipedia, I agree with Liz that the use of multiple accounts here did not immediately seem malicious, and I would have probably been open to unblocking Gobautista if they had admitted the use of multiple accounts. However, as Evotista has unhelpfully denied using multiple accounts or even knowing Gobautista personally despite the abundant evidence to the contrary (both behavioral and technical), at this time I cannot support unblocking either account. Evotista . Closing. Mz7 (talk) 04:46, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Block evasion and WP:DUCK. Also see and compare this against sockmaster and confirmed sockpuppet.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  04:58, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * ✅ to the previous socks. I will block and tag. --Yamla (talk) 10:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 14:05, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Block evasion. Clearly WP:DUCK with exactly same userpage design like the previous socks, compare this with first sock, and second sock. If this wasn't fishy enough, see their "Improved and/or expanded* list articles" box and compare against sockmaster's userpage. Requesting CheckUser since this is already the 3rd sockpuppet discovered, maybe there are some sleepers lying around.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  14:59, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
to previously confirmed sock,, based purely on technical evidence and not taking into account behavioural evidence. No sleepers at this time. --Yamla (talk) 16:47, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sock blocked and tagged. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Block evasion and WP:DUCK. Same design userpage as with the previous socks.1, 2, 3  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  15:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Courcelles (talk) 15:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Everything in the archives is stale, but the behaviour and overlap is enough to convince me. Blocking and tagging. Courcelles (talk) 15:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)