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WP:Warring for WP:OR in the same article from time to time, [history], similarities in arguments on [talk page].

Quoting Zandxo (blocked eventually): "Sala-Uzden are of Chechen origin and therefore Uchar Hadji is a Chechen", "The source I posted was from the 1800s written by a Kumyk named Shikhaliev and the book is literally called "a story about Kumyks from a Kumyk". There he explains the origin of several important peoples making up the Endirey city. He clearly explains that people like the Gueni and Sala Uzden are of Chechen origin, Sala-Uzden are mentioned as coming from the Vashindaroy which is an old Chechen teip in southcentral Chechnya".

Quoting Goddard2000: Sala-Uzden are written down as being of Vashindaroy origin (Chechen clan) and are related to the Aukh people (Chechen tribes) by the Kumyk prince Shikhaliev.

Zandxo (same talk page): You are clearly lying and butchering the quote by now.

Goddard2000, quote from [here]: My whole edit in "Aukh" article was butchered and replaced

Lamberd just disrupted until blocked, [diff].

Archivarius just flies in ([diff]) and out, and knows exactly how to become another user as he tells us here [diff]

IrelandCork (talk) 08:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Update: Reiner Gavriel, conducts similar WP:Warring with the same lengthy comments, the stylistics of replies is similar, [diff], [diff].--IrelandCork (talk) 06:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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I see you are accusing me of being every Chechen Wikipedia editor)) the Admins will check my ip and see that i am not Zandxo, Lamberd or Archivarius.

As for the Shikhaliev source, its a good source which tells of the origins of the Sala-Uzden. one of the most primary ones in fact. So how does Zandxo using it mean he's my sockpuppet?

"Butchered" is common to use when someone vandalizes and deletes edits.

--Goddard2000 (talk) 03:52, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I suppose you already convinced me you know how to avoid this. But as I don't know how this thing works, let's give it a try.--IrelandCork (talk) 04:48, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

I would've appreciated it if you IrelandCork had tagged me so I could answer to what you are accusing me of. Goddard2000 and I are obviously quoting the same source, of course our argument will be the same. Have you even looked into the source or did you just come to the conclusion that either I am his/her sockpuppet or vice versa? Reiner Gavriel (talk) 21:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
From the block log of User:Zandxo:
 * 20:05, 11 August 2020 CaptainEek talk contribs block blocked Zandxo talk contribs with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked, autoblock disabled) (At user request, user is transferring their main account to User:Reiner Gavriel. Email me for more details/before changing this block.)

This suggests to me that User:Reiner Gavriel is a successor account to Zandxo. The admin who handled this before was User:CaptainEek. EdJohnston (talk) 19:20, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have talked to a bunch of admins about it and came to a solution with User:CaptainEek, who also asked me to add a note to show the connection to that account. Reiner Gavriel (talk) 21:18, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

See also a current ANI about IrelandCork which has links to avoid five previous ANIs. This complaint was opened by User:Cabayi looking to get some interaction bans approved. Also see WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Arsenekoumyk which is currently open. Recently Reiner Gabriel complained at AN3 about edit warring at Imam Shamil. This man was a religious figure from the Caucasus who some people insisted was of Kumyk descent. Notice that the user name User:Arsenekoumyk contains the French version of 'Kumyk'. Recently I reopened WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Dzurdzuketi but it's unlikely those accounts are related to this set, even though the Chechen/Ingush issues are also from the Caucasus. Another recently closed SPI was WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Veinakh/Archive which had an Ingush connection. EdJohnston (talk) 20:37, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , Yes, Reiner is a successor account to Zandxo, a situation I cleaned up a while back. Now, it could be possible that Reiner is related to the other accounts, but I don't think its likely. Behavior is fairly different. Meat is possible I guess? But seems more likely to me an issue of Chechen nationalism, which would be better dealt with by some T-bans if necessary. Seeing as I previously was involved in unblocking Reiner however, I am not going to CU this one, so I leave that up to someone else. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 18:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


 * In light of Sockpuppet investigations/Arsenekoumyk this appears to have been filed as a tit-for-tat retaliation. Closing, Cabayi (talk) 07:29, 16 April 2021 (UTC)