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04 February 2014

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An earlier account than Golden Prime, but immediately picked up at Tiger versus lion after Golden Prime and pushing the same Ken Spiro source that Golden Prime was pushing at RSN. See also this request for undeletion with same combative tone as Golden Prime. ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   00:05, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * Cyberduck icon.png It looks like a duck to me. I find it hard to believe that two people in the same period of time could be this adamant about their views on a subject like this.  Protoss  Pylon  02:01, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * They look unrelated to me. For one thing,  can write literate edit summaries and can spell English words correctly whereas  is severely challenged in those areas.  Not the same style at all IMHO.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 02:20, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok guys here I am. Let me start by saying that I only have one account. I have absolutely no idea who that other guy is. I don't know what to say other than to tell you about myself. I'm new to Wikipedia. I've edited 2 pages before this. I got reverted on one because I removed what I believed to be an irrelevant and misleading figure/stat. So that taught me to never remove, just add. So that's what I did to the 'Tiger versus Lion' page. Even though we all can see it's totally one-sided, that's fine. The current footnotes don't lead anywhere, that's fine too. All I tried to do was add some info on when lions did well in fights, and I got reverted. As we know from YouTube, and from the history of this page, people take sides. For whatever reason, it's funny, but you either like lions or you like tigers - in a fight that is. So it's really not that surprising that when someone sees activity on this page, that they jump in also. I'm definitely thinking about giving up; I see many others tried to edit this page but gave up. Maybe when they see someone else trying, they get a 2nd-wind and try to edit it too?? I don't know.EasyTherePilgrim (talk) 04:38, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

One more thing. Normally content of a page is irrelevant to an investigation like this. But I ask the admins to please take a look at the 'Tiger versus Lion' page, and judge for yourself is things are on the up-and-up. Check the footnotes too. I've NEVER seen a Wikipedia page like this. (The other 2 pages I edited in the past were 99% good IMO, totally different situation.)EasyTherePilgrim (talk) 04:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * They look like the same user. I found the following similar patterns between the two accounts: 1) insisting in cherry picking a single statement from Ken Spiro which has been explained over a dozen times by different contributors as irrelevant and invalid - this is hardly a coincidence since Ken Spiro has almost never been cited in all the other lions vs tigers discussions in other forums, 2) tendency to return to the same article to engage in edit warring to force the same invalid opinions (mainly Ken Spiro) without any discussion and 3) making false accusations on all the other current valid and reliable sources as invalid while insisting their forum posts/blogs/fictions/cherry picked statements as reliable sources. It can't be clearer that they show the same unique editing patterns on the article Tiger versus lion and hold the same bizarre thoughts on citation reliability, and thus I would say they are likely be the same person. BigCat82 (talk) 12:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Golden Prime is actually the older account, so I've swapped suspected master and sock accordingly. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mark ''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   01:10, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Blocked and tagged as a DUCK. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:02, 4 February 2014 (UTC)