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 * GMNP was blocked 13 january 2020 block log; BS started five days later user-contributions BS
 * GMNP has been pov-pushing at Gospel for a prolonged period about the question if the Gospels are eyewitness-accounts, arguing against the mainstream-view that the Gospels are not eywitness-accounts diff diff diff diff diff; BS started doing the same, with new arguments, at 24 januari 2020 diff. Also at Virgin birth of Jesus diff
 * Poor editing by repetitious insertion of the same large chunks of text at different places in the same article: BiblicalScholarship diff diff versus GoogleMeNowPlease diff diff
 * I voiced my concern over the similarities between GMNP and BS at Talk:Gospel diff; BS responded diff, stating I have never engaged in an edit war, as far as I am aware. - how does a newbie know what edit-warring is? And how does a newbie know how to ping another user?
 * BS editied Catholic Church in France diff, an article also edited by GMNP link, edit-summary We need to keep the format, so it aligns with the rest of our articles on the topic; that's quite specific inside-konwledge, I think, for a newbie. And what is "our[s]"? Wikipedia? Or the Catholic Church? Joshua Jonathan  - Let's talk!  08:34, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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✅. Blocked the sock and tagged the master and sock. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:17, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

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BeckhamsBaldHead: diff, as compared to diff, the previous sock. As for the IP: diff restores the same info, but is an Indian IP. Not sure about that one. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!  14:50, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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RooneysBaldHead and BeckhamsBaldHead are ✅ to each other and ❌ to GoogleMeNowPlease. I am the one who indeffed RooneysBaldHead for disruptive editing, not for socking. I've blocked the new account without tags and will consider whether a new case should be created for the two accounts.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * (sorry for the pings this morning!) is there anything else you want to do here, or can this be closed? TonyBallioni (talk) 15:34, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I've been remiss in following up. I'm closing. I suppose if new socks appear, we can then create a case. Thanks for looking at the cases in checked status! --Bbb23 (talk) 16:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Very obvious WP:DUCK vote stacking going on at This Deletion discussion. The master Shows up and Votes "Support Deletion", followed by two more IP who vote "Support" rather than the much more usual "Delete".
 * 173.63.176.7 and 2603:6010:7620:7C00:3CAD:7005:FF73:31D9 both voted with extra quote marks around their vote, a rather odd error for 2 subsequent editors to makes.
 * Finally all these accounts including the master sign their comments with 2 extra dashes before the signature, and the first five including the master left votes with a bolded dash between the vote and the comment. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 18:37, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Comment As an addendum regarding pattern of behavior, several of the aforementioned IPs voted with multiple blank lines/paragraph breaks ahead of their rationales.--WaltCip- (talk)  19:12, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * There's a lot of temporal overlap too, all these accounts were active in 3 windows, 1:40 - 2:30; 6:10 - 7:10 and 16:50 -19:00. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 19:16, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment It is also suspicious that anyone not acting as an active editor would even be aware of a deletion discussion about a Project Page. That there are so many who have appeared so quickly is highly suspicious. Teishin (talk) 19:22, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I concur that there is some obvious sockpuppetry/meatpuppetry going on here. Dylsss(talk contribs) 19:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Thank you all for this opportunity. Regards --GorgeousJ (talk) 19:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * has made their first edit to the deletion discussion as well. SK2242 (talk) 19:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Username similarity too, GorgeousJ Vs Dr.Jace. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 20:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Added to the list of suspected sock puppets, a Checkuser might be able to link this account to the master. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 14:30, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


 * When can we expect this process to be completed? GorgeousJ (talk) 20:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have just requested CheckUser, so the process will probably be completed within a few days. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 02:46, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment this user may be a sockpuppet of User:Tariq_afflaq who was recently banned for sockpuppetry. That user and their sockpuppets proliferated claims about ethnicity/nationality based on erroneous Encylopedia Britannica entries. See mentions of "Britannica" in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zeno_of_Citium&action=history and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Porphyry_(philosopher)&action=history as examples. Teishin (talk) 22:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I first came across this situation while patrolling recent changes, and I would like to say that, in my opinion, this is very obvious meatpuppetry taking place. I have also requested CU in order to ensure that actual sockpuppetry is ruled out before canvassing is. JJP...MASTER![talk to] JJP... master? 02:43, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Checkusers won't connect an account to an IP address, so I didn't bother requesting one. Also the IPs geolocate to all over the north eastern United States and Canada, so I'm fairly sure they're editing behind a proxy. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 02:56, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment There's evidence here that we are being trolled. "Wikipedia is not a serious/reliable source Sorry, neckbeards".  "Here for fun".  and  "Hey, as an alternative to Wikipedia, which is generally more reliable, Britannica or Conservapedia?" Teishin (talk) 02:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * I would like a check user. CU would not publicly connect IP's with account, but it would find a VPN or TOR or similar. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 14:19, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Checkuser for the IPs, they are too widely distributed for CU to be useful. The proxy-checking tool is not private, by the way, but it does take some experience to interpret the results; I'm fairly confident that none of the IPs listed are proxies. Please approach this as meatpuppetry involving several individuals.
 * The following accounts are ✅:
 * Both and  are ❌ to each other and to this group.
 * I have blocked GorgeousJ. When this is closed, please move this case or create a new case at Sockpuppet investigations/GoogleMeNowPlease. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:54, 22 December 2020 (UTC)]
 * My mistake, there's already a case there. I'll update it. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * please merge this report and the one below to the GoogleMeNowPlease case. Then, unless you see something else to do here, please close. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved/histmerged from Sockpuppet investigations/GorgeousJ. Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:18, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * please merge this report and the one below to the GoogleMeNowPlease case. Then, unless you see something else to do here, please close. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Case moved/histmerged from Sockpuppet investigations/GorgeousJ. Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:18, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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An dormant account suddenly awakens, makes 10 trivial edits and then jumps into an AFD that was semi-protected due to sock infestation. I suspect more meat than sock, but this is the central place for discussing it; I'm blocking for behavior. DMacks (talk) 03:43, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * ❌, but as in the previous report, treat as a meatpuppet. I see they have already been blocked. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:52, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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Autoconfirmed-busting, followed immediately by the usual edits to Errors in the Encyclopædia Britannica that have been corrected in Wikipedia. This is interesting...I wonder if an underlying theme is COI with EB? DMacks (talk) 05:32, 31 December 2020 (UTC) DMacks (talk) 05:32, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * - I agree that the first bunch of edits are clearly gaming auto-confirmed, and this by GorgeousJ vs this by Damiano both look like somebody trying to cast EB in the best light. I suppose it's possible this is UPE on behalf of EB, but EB is not some fly-by-night shop.  You'd think if they were to invest in grooming their reputation on wikipedia they would have hired somebody more sophisticated than this, but I think this is still enough to justify a check. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:00, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, . Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:20, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * All done. Closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 19:43, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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At Editshmedt confessed they were Wallingfordtoday. At Wallingfordtoday confessed they edited from certain IPs. Those IPs geolocate to Ontario, Canada, same as GoogleMeNowPlease, when editing without logging in (e.g. Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:A5A0:51A:F8D8:416B:D6DB:6112, Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:607:1923:8FBF:A159:ACA7:1318, Special:Contributions/69.158.163.200, and Special:Contributions/69.157.44.136, see, they all seem to use Bell Canada or Bell DSL Internet, maybe also Rogers Wireless or Rogers Cable). Both the sockmaster and the sockpuppet are concerned with Bible scholarship (this is especially clear from WP:SOCK ), both edited aggressively and both have called me names (Editshmedt just got blocked for that, they are still blocked for it while I write this). See and.

Other arguments: just click on the contributions of those IPs (including those at User:Wallingfordtoday, i.e. Special:Contributions/70.49.181.61, Special:Contributions/67.71.37.48, Special:Contributions/64.231.43.14, and Special:Contributions/64.229.115.87), you will see they all have shared interests (like Christian theology, Catholic especially). They (most of them, including the accounts) also pay special attention to Muhammad, e.g. Muhammad and the Bible, Christianity and Islam, and so on. They (i.e. Wallingfordtoday) share an interest in Christ myth theory with proven WP:SOCK.

Speak of the wolf, and there is its tail: Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:604:1D5E:2C42:CAE8:C888:2512.

Oh, yes, do check for sleepers. Judging by their habits, there should be more WP:SOCKS active right now. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:42, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Editshmedt is to this case, and I did not check Wallingfordtoday because the account is stale. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:46, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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Usual autoconfirm-busting, a bit of sleep, then disruption related to Errors in the Encyclopædia Britannica that have been corrected in Wikipedia. Indef'ed. DMacks (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC) DMacks (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Fixed the accout-name in the above link. DMacks (talk) 22:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Already blocked. Nothing more to do. Closing. Cabayi (talk) 14:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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Block evasion, WP:DUCK of Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:600::/45, who have been blocked from editing my talk page. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to GorgeousJ, who was confirmed as a sock of GoogleMeNowPlease. See SPI...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   00:17, 1 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Report moved from Korvex to GoogleMeNowPlease. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 01:53, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

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Same geolocation. Same aggressiveness against mainstream Bible scholarship. Or maybe they are. But GoogleMeNowPlease is a better match because they are a Catholic true believer. tgeorgescu (talk) 06:35, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * - CU will never link IP addresses and latest in archive (January) are stale; there is essentially nothing here to check. The SandDoctor  Talk 18:43, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a couple of what appear to be dynamic IPs that haven't edited in over a week, so I don't see that there's anything useful to do here. If problems persist, semi-protection of specific pages might be useful. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:50, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

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Pro-Catholic POV, very close to fundamentalist or true believer. Same geolocation.

If they are not GoogleMeNowPlease, they are Korvex. See Sockpuppet investigations/Korvex/Archive.

The difference is that Korvex is an evangelical familiar with mainstream scholarship, even indulging heretical readings of the Bible, while GoogleMeNowPlease is a Catholic hardliner. tgeorgescu (talk) 10:41, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I repeat what I have stated there: Speak of the wolf, and there is its tail: Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:604:1D5E:2C42:CAE8:C888:2512, Special:Contributions/70.24.84.202. tgeorgescu (talk) 07:57, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't know about those IPs, but I have reported Korvex for socking and they got indeffed for it. Oh, yes, Korvex edited as Wallingfordtoday, and Wallingfordtoday publicly revealed their own IPs (they also edited as IPs). tgeorgescu (talk) 17:27, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Easy, I repeat what's there: At Editshmedt confessed they were. At Wallingfordtoday confessed they edited from certain IPs. Those IPs geolocate to Ontario, Canada, same as Korvex, when editing without logging in (e.g. Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:A5A0:51A:F8D8:416B:D6DB:6112, Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:607:1923:8FBF:A159:ACA7:1318, Special:Contributions/69.158.163.200, and Special:Contributions/69.157.44.136, see, they all seem to use Bell Canada or Bell DSL Internet, maybe also Rogers Wireless or Rogers Cable). Both the sockmaster and the sockpuppet are concerned with Bible scholarship, both edited aggressively and both have called me names (Editshmedt just got blocked for that, their block has expired). See and. Other arguments: just click on the contributions of those IPs (including those at User:Wallingfordtoday, i.e. Special:Contributions/70.49.181.61, Special:Contributions/67.71.37.48, Special:Contributions/64.231.43.14, and Special:Contributions/64.229.115.87), you will see they all have shared interests (like Christian theology, Catholic especially). They (most of them, including the accounts) also pay special attention to Muhammad, e.g. Muhammad and the Bible, Christianity and Islam, and so on. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:36, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

See edits about Mary:, ,. Quite revealing:. tgeorgescu (talk) 20:47, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I retract this SPI. GoogleMeNowPlease edited Perpetual virginity of Mary, but I don't know what that proves. tgeorgescu (talk) 22:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * . Based on geolocation and edits, it seems likely that these are the same as the last two IPs you reported, but being on a dynamic IP isn't against policy. Looking through the archives, reported IPs seem to be absolutely all over the place, even as far as India, but mostly in the southern U.S. What is your basis for saying that GMNP is in Scarborough, Ontario?  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 21:44, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, that also seems to be the same IP-hopper. What I'm seeing is that you've filed a number of SPIs over the years alleging that this IP-hopper is either Korvex of GMNP. What I'm not seeing is any case where an admin or clerk has agreed with your suspicion. Am I missing such a case? If so, please link it. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 16:28, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Diffs. Please. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 17:34, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for providing more evidence, Tgeorgescu. I do see that Korvex is in Ontario, although their present-day geolocation is all over the province. At, Korvex made a point of how the alleged IPs were all over the province, so maybe there's something weird going on on their end that they exploit, or maybe they travel a lot. As such, I find that inconsistent geolocation within Ontario isn't necessarily strong evidence against this being Korvex, but being in Ontario is not on its own very strong evidence in favor of it. Summing up similarities, we have someone in a large province using a popular ISP, taking a fairly popular POV, coming into conflict with someone who (and I say this neutrally) people with that POV tend to come into conflict with. I could definitely see how this is Korvex. I could definitely see how it's some other Ontarian with strong feelings on Catholic theology.As such, I am not comfortable endorsing any action here without behavioral evidence going beyond broad POV overlap. Has Korvex edited about the Assumption of Mary in the past? Have they taken positions similar to the ones they're taking at her article? Are their interactions with other user similars to the ones they've had in their edit summaries and talkpage at that article, or on other articles edited by Scarborough IPs from your past reports? --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 18:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Those are all edits by a past IP that you reported, which I already noted is probably the same person as this user. That's not block evasion. That's being on a dynamic IP. Saying "A == B" is worthless when the question is whether A == C and it was never established that B == C. Please provide evidence showing that this IP-hopper is likely to be the same person as Korvex, based on edits by Korvex or their known sockpuppets. This is a basic principle of filing an SPI, and this is now my fifth attempt to explain it to you. Given that the last time you and I interacted at an SPI, you took up too much of my and El_C's time because you were convinced that two users who disagreed with you were socking, which El_C in the end described as borderline harassment, I would hope that you learned the importance of not filing SPIs against people who disagree with you, without adequate evidence. So, to make this 100% clear, in your next reply, please provide:
 * At least one diff by 65.94 or one of the past IPs that geolocates to Scarborough
 * At least one diff by Korvex or a known sock thereof, "known" meaning that at least one clerk, admin, or checkuser has made that determination in the past
 * And, if not immediately obvious, an explanation of what the diffs have in common.
 * Otherwise I will close this without action. If you do not think you will be able to do that, kindly retract this SPI. Thank you. --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 21:15, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well okay then. . Without prejudice against review at other venues of the IP-hopper's actions, nor of a re-file by another user, but with prejudice against a re-file by this user. As this is the second time in recent months that you have brought a deficient case against someone you were in a disagreement with, I would caution you to thoroughly familiarize yourself with SPI procedures in nroms before you file any other cases. In particular I would recommend reading the header at WP:SPI, Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guide to filing cases, and User:Blablubbs/How to file a good SPI. Thank you.  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she/they) 22:39, 12 February 2022 (UTC)