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I came across this via a REFUND request here, where Gracewan2016 tried to get a page that's currently up for deletion kept. I note that she said that she wanted to try Wikipedia for the first time, however there's evidence that she likely had a prior account, Gwan123, back in 2010. Initially I was willing to believe that there was a chance that this might be someone else, as the deleted talk page history for Grace Wan spoke in the third person about Wan while having the edit summary "written by GW". What makes me certain that this was Wan is the deleted talk page info at Talk:Grace wan, where she wrote "i DON'T THINK SHOULD DELETE THIS PAGE BECAUSE I AM A REAL AND A STAR PERSON WORKED MANY FILM AND TV PRODUCTIONS." She basically gives away her identity there.

Recently a new account, Gracewan2016, tried recreating the page at Grace Wan. If this is Wan, then it could be construed that this is her under a new account because she lost the login info for the old one. That's fair enough - it happens. However soon after the pages were deleted and she was issued a welcome warning about creating autobiographies a new account, Bradlay2016, started trying to create the page in the other account's stead. Something to tie the newest account to the oldest is that Bradlay2016 used the IMDb profile info for the article at one point, which Gwan123 tried doing at one point and which was moved to their account page at one point in time. Gracewan2016 also tried adding this info to the article in their prior renditions and they also tried adding the article to their talk page, which I've since removed.

I'm including the earliest account simply to show all of the available accounts - where I think this is a case of sockpuppetry (or at least meatpuppetry) is with the two most recent, Gracewan2016 and Bradlay2016. However at the same time I do think it's worth mentioning that Wan did have a prior account, which contradicts her statement at REFUND. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  19:13, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

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 * GraceWan2016 has posted a rebuttal here, claiming that the prior two accounts are completely unrelated and that they didn't create an article for themselves on Wikipedia. I'm skeptical of the first claim and the second claim is false, as they did create an entry at Grace Wan on February 16th and 17th, both of which were deleted. I also find it unlikely that two completely unrelated people (three, including the most recent account) would choose to sign up and create a page for her, given that she's not well known and is at best, an obscure figure. It's also somewhat telling that the article that Bradlay2016 created is identical to the first version of the article that GraceWan2016 created on February 16th. Their usernames are also very similar.
 * At the very least I think that this is meatpuppetry and possibly her paying people to create articles on her behalf. I also have to raise an eyebrow at the claim on Chrissymad's talk page that Grace YuYe Wan was a completely different person. As the admin who closed the AfD, I recognize the IMDb credits from Wan's profile and I also note that the bio on her profile is the same thing that was posted on the pages created by Bradlay2016 and GraceWan2016.
 * In other words, this is the same person or as good as the same person. I always hate posting that someone is lying, but they've made claims that are blatantly false so I have no other response than to say that they've lied about things that I can examine with my admin abilities, so it's extremely likely that they're lying about their association with one another. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  02:15, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

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 * Socking and lying and creating yet another account gets the master an indef. Neil N  talk to me 06:41, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

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Recreation of Grace Wan as Grace YuYe Wan - only slightly different than the most recent deleted version. Chrissymad ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  19:21, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

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 * Neil N  talk to me 06:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

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Obvious duck is obvious CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  12:56, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * RickinBaltimore (talk) 14:48, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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The continuing campaign to get an article on Grace Wan is about to enter its second decade (see Grace wan for the initial attempts in 2010)--recreating the article at User:Grace Wan (nonexistent account) and Draft:Grace Wan. --Finngall talk 20:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * , closing. Cabayi (talk) 21:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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Special:Diff/1176388685, yet again trying to create an article for Grace Wan. Yamla (talk) 10:19, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

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Gracewan2012 was blocked more than six years ago as a sock of Gwan123 and while there was no technical evidence recorded at the time, nobody disputes this was anything other than a sock. I've blocked and tagged. --Yamla (talk) 10:21, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

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Created draft for Grace Wan H78c67c (talk) 09:08, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * I'll tag and block. --Yamla (talk) 09:34, 25 October 2023 (UTC)