Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HFLSev3n/Archive

Evidence submitted by Yappy2bhere
Both the user and the IP are WP:SPAs that edit articles on a band, its, and its albums (do re), with the user continuing the work of the IP after November 2009 (contribs: IP, user). At AfD, a dialog with the user (he me he me) was completed by the IP (he) without loss of continuity. Earlier the user argued to an admin that the AfD nomination was a form of vandalism, the same plaint made by the IP when removing the AfD message from the article. The IP address geolocates to Boca Raton, Florida (using ). The band is from Fort Lauderdale and its leader is from West Palm Beach, both near the IP; the user has identified himself as the band's leader. The user claims that all his posts are properly attributed [ibid], so it isn't simply a matter of failing to log in. Yappy2bhere (talk) 06:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Both user and IP are participating in the AfD discussion for the band's article, and both have !voted there. Yappy2bhere (talk) 07:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The user didn't !vote. He implied that he had voted ("as you can see i am not the only one voting for Keeping the page"), but may simply have forgotten to log in when he made his !vote explicit . There is no point to a SPI if the !voting was fair. May I withdraw my complaint? Yappy2bhere (talk) 02:32, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure can. –MuZemike 21:35, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
See Defending yourself against claims.

Comments by other users
Is there a diff for both user and IP casting !votes, as opposed to discussing points in this very active AFD? Otherwise it's looking like a user forgetting to log in, which they are entitled to do. There's also an irrelevant claim of the RL identity of the user which concerns me. Rhomb (talk) 07:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The identification is relevant because it co-locates the user and the IP; the IP address co-locates with the band and its leader, the user identifies himself as the leader, so the user co-locates with the IP.


 * The user said that all his edits were properly attributed ("yes HFLSEV3N is seven from Human Factors Lab, and has been signed on every post made" ), implying that he was not the author of e.g. the earlier post by the IP . However, there's nothing in the edit histories inconsistent with forgetting to log in.


 * I see the IP's !vote, but not the user's. Let me look through the history. If I can't find the diff, I'll be back to eat crow. Yappy2bhere (talk) 06:37, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I was wrong. I assumed that the user had !voted from what he'd said at in the AfD discussion, but he'd never explicitly done so. Yappy2bhere (talk) 02:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
SPI case withdrawn. In any case, I concur along with Rhomb that it's a simple case of editing while logged out and nothing blatantly deceptive. –MuZemike 21:35, 10 February 2010 (UTC)