Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hamza31100/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
IP and accounts all editing, very often disruptively, with similar POVs. Note that they already admitted to Hamza3110022 being their alternative account (see below), but it's the IP edits and the use of the WillToons account which reveal a clearer pattern of abuse:


 * Both Wiltoons and the IP are clearly the same user that was edit-warring at Dar al-Magana (e.g., ). Both also have a history of disruption, including deleting sourced information and unsourced POV edits, as a browse through their many reverted contributions can show (e.g. , , , ).


 * After looking back at the IP's history, I found this message where they already identified themselves as Hamza31100, who also had a history of similar disruptive editing. Hamza31100 had created another account, Hamza3110022, which they disclosed in that message after I had asked them directly on Hamza3110022's talk page. (I then added the alternative account tag myself in an effort to help them: ). Hamza3110022 has also been disruptive on multiple occasions and has been editing more or less during the same periods as WilToons and the IP (e.g., , and other POV edits that require more context to discuss).
 * The IP's edits thus appear to connect Hamza31100, Hamza3110022, and WillToons.

If Hamza31100 had only created the second account (Hamza3110022) due to a password issue, like they claimed, there's little reason for them to create the WilToons account and for continuing to edit while logged out, all without disclosure and while continuing to disrupt. It's possible they have other accounts too, given the presence of similar POV editors floating around Wikipedia. R Prazeres (talk) 16:25, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Comments by other users

 * Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

"Gofté Moorish" is already reported on another SPI. M.Bitton (talk) 14:09, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, based on the evidence M.Bitton provided at the other SPI (and my own previous encounter with them), Gofté Moorish is most likely unrelated to the rest, because they're promoting a different POV. Some of the tactics may be the same, but that's merely typical of POV-focused editors in general. Calissi2022 does look plausible though. I imagine a CU would still sort this out either way. R Prazeres (talk) 15:14, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Because of sock-related issues at fr.wiki, I've added two more accounts to the list, Gofté Moorish and Calissi2022. Even though I speak some French, it's a little hard to follow the findings made at fr.wiki, including whom they blocked and whom they did not. However, because there's enough behavioral evidence to link these accounts and because they are not stale, I've requested a check to get independent findings here and look for any others. There's also a possible connection to Sockpuppet investigations/Omar-Toons.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:16, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I am a checkuser, not a clerk. This case is currently awaiting a clerk to endorse or decline the request. As an opinion only, I suggest this may be suitable for a checkuser; that is, I think this could be endorsed. --Yamla (talk) 21:52, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, User:WillToons and User:Hamza3110022 are the same. Also the same: and, whom I checked because Hamza has been editing a sandbox in Tayeb's user space. As was suggested above, all this is a mess and I do believe Omar-Toons is related, and as far as I can tall Tayeb/Scorpio and WillToons/Hamza have no technical overlap, so to speak. I really don't know what to do here. Drmies (talk) 22:12, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * - RoySmith (talk) 15:01, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Taking this one step at a time, I agree with that WillToons and Hamza31100 are the same person.  They are ✅ and there's sufficient behavioral similarities to back that up.  However, I note that nto applies between those two, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that this is just a clean start or some such.  I'll drop them a warning and let it go at that. RoySmith (talk) 15:16, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * , thanks--I hadn't even looked at that. Drmies (talk) 08:52, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding, they have explained in this thread that these are legitimate alt accounts. I strongly suggest that they add a note to both user pages explaining that to avoid any future problems. RoySmith (talk) 15:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Given what I've noted above, I don't see that there's enough here to justify any further action, so I'm closing this. If clarity emerges in the future, please reopen. RoySmith (talk) 15:34, 20 July 2023 (UTC)