Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/HanzoHattori/Archive

Report date March 28 2009, 06:11 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

Well cmp7 is an obviously experienced user who pretends to be a novice. His field of interest Chechen Wars, promotion the idea of the Guerill phase of the war belongs to permabanned. It is not the first time Hanzo returns as a sockpuppet see Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of HanzoHattori. Please check Alex Bakharev (talk)
 * Evidence submitted by Alex Bakharev (talk)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users
 * Is it ok to block a user and to accuse him of sockpuppetry at the same time? The structure of this page supposes that he should be able to defend himself. That aside, he is not really similar to HH, in my opinion. HH, if I recall correctly, was from Poland in the range 84.234... Guerrilla phase of the Second Chechen War (2008) was created by an IP from Indiana (76.242...). Cmp7 is more likely to be the latter. And it is far from obvious that he is an experienced user. Colchicum (talk) 17:05, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * Fixing malformed evidence line. Foxy Loxy  Pounce! 03:51, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Alex, Hanzo would be stale from a checkuser POV, and it has been nearly a year since their ban, given the real world is feuding over this issue, is there any other information you can provide?  MBisanz  talk 04:29, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, (a Hanzo's sock) was active as late as December 21, if it is still to early to checkuser, please close the investigation. The contribution alone is not clear enough Alex Bakharev (talk) 07:08, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, checkuser lasts 90 days, so it would have expired around March 21st-22nd.  MBisanz  talk 08:18, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * Stale info, closng.  MBisanz  talk 08:18, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by TheFEARgod
Similar editing patterns like hanzo.h. and previous puppets (e.g. captain obvious). See example 1 and 2.-- TheFE ARgod (Ч) 19:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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CheckUser requests
Requested by TheFE ARgod  (Ч) 19:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

– If it's obvious (which it is), then WP:DUCK applies. No CU necessary. MuZemike 20:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions
IP blocked and tagged. Also blocked and tagged is User:Cmp7, which for some reason wasn't blocked in the previous SPI case (behavioral evidence is clear enough in my view). MuZemike 20:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

24 January 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

''Please list evidence below this line. Remember to sign at the end of your section with 4 tilde characters " ~ "''

Contributions between these two usernames seem to show a direct interest in Mortal Kombat articles and also log on and off in similar time intervals during the day. Both are bold and ignore WP policies like HanzoHattori/Asperchu. Additionally, this other IP also shows same article interests and makes Copy/Paste moves like the other users. Subzerosmokerain (talk) 00:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, I made this edit at the first IP's talk page: which he thusly deleted and then responded to me at my talk page: Saying to keep it between us. But his editing has gotten far too disruptive compared to his earlier edits. Would it have been better to put this under Asperchu, because it kind of more relates to Asperchu's editing style (who was found out to be HanzoHattori). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subzerosmokerain (talk • contribs) 02:26, January 24, 2011

Also if you check the edit history page, both the user and the two IPs have made edits to the Noob Saibot article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Noob_Saibot&action=history Subzerosmokerain (talk) 02:28, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No, they haven't. HanzoHattori never edited it. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 03:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think i'm making this clear, the IP, 94.246.150.68 has been proven to be HanzoHattori after I asked him, note my links above. The IPs, 94.246.150.68 and 71.255.163.244 and the user sock, Sub-Zero Blue have all edited the Noob Saibot page in a similar action conflicting with WP:WAF and have been revereted on numerous occasions. As a result, 94.246.150.68 is the root account which is a sock of Hanzo which he declared himself. Subzerosmokerain (talk) 22:28, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Declining because all the data we have on HanzoHattori is stale. I'm not entirely convinced they're the same, though; they didn't edit any articles in common, and Hanzo also dipped into other topics, which I'm not seeing with this new account. Perhaps you can find some other evidence? —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 01:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sub-Zero Blue was blocked by another admin, so I'm closing. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 19:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

06 February 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets






 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

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Asperchu/HanzoHattori back as 94.246.150.68, causing as much trouble involving incivility as before. Duck test: Performs the same edits to groups of articles (fictional Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat characters, historical articles), some exactly identical:, , being just as snippy and provocative on talk pages: ,. Prime Blue (talk) 11:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

User:94.246.150.68 may have created the now banned User:Vidboy10 as a disposable sock to sacrifice to prove his 'innocence'. Same disruptive tastes, on-off edit war and trolling by mass or flipant deleatnig see- Talk: 2011 Egyptian protests, 2011 Egyptian protests and others for proof [][][]. I would like it check usered for me. --Wipsenade (talk) 16:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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What the hell, VIDBOY? Really? You know what guys? I feel offended. Do not accuse such asshole trolls/idiots (not sure) to be me, okay? Seriously. Don't do it. Or I'll leave this website and never come back. --94.246.154.130 (talk) 22:57, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Apology to 94.246.154.130

Dear User: 94.246.154.130, I was referring to the edits made in 2008 and the deleted couple from 2009, not the edits from July 2011, which was after I put my comments up. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. Wipsenade (talk) 14:43, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

It was never proven, so User:Vidboy10 was likely not the same person.Wipsenade (talk) 16:54, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Per WP:DUCK I've blocked the IP two weeks for evasion. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 14:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * As to Wipsenade's request for a look at Vidboy10, I think it's the other way around: Vidboy10 was blocked on Feb 3, and then probably proceeded to use the IP to edit. Both the IP and the account are blocked anyway, so there's not much to run a CU on here. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Geolocate and R.I.P.E. IP number test
I have a new sergestion- look at the nationalay of the IPs with the Geolocate and R.I.P.E. buttons at the bottom of the IP's talk page

The American IP is the odd one out and thus not sock of User:HanzoHattori, but another disruptive person from another place.Wipsenade (talk) 15:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

26 February 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

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Asperchu back as Seruru, evading permanent block for incivility and usage of sockpuppets. Duck test: Performs edits to the same articles (Fūma shuriken, Kitana (Mortal Kombat), Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks), same editing behavior: changing the word "Caucasian" to "white", expansive edits to articles. Prime Blue (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Just today I closed another case for Vidboy10, who I see was listed in a previous case for this editor. I'm endorsing to confirm Seruru's role in this, and also to see if Vidboy10 is involved. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 17:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

- Different ISPs, but same user agent, and same geographical location. J.delanoy gabs adds 04:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 04:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

New Geolocate and R.I.P.E. IP number test
I looked at the nationalay of the IPs with the Geolocate and R.I.P.E. buttons at the bottom of the I.P.'s talk page-

The American and Moldovan I.P.s are the odd ones out and thus not sock of User:HanzoHattori, but another disruptive person from another place.Wipsenade (talk) 18:18, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I think he's back as User:SuperblySpiffingPerson on the 2010 Libyan Uprising pages [][][].--213.81.116.217 (talk) 19:35, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

I will file a new complaint on a new page some time soon.Wipsenade (talk) 19:07, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

30 May 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

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Asperchu back as Barry Sandwich, evading permanent block for incivility and usage of sockpuppets. Duck test: Performs edits to the same articles (character-related Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat and Max Payne articles such as Jill Valentine, Claire Redfield, Mileena, Fatality (Mortal Kombat), List of Resident Evil characters), same editing behavior such as bulks of articles edited, removal of galleries (Mediation Cabal/Cases/2010-11-23/Jutte -> ). Prime Blue (talk) 12:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Based on behavioral evidence, among other things, I've blocked and tagged the sock. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 13:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

01 June 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

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And back with a static IP, again per duck test: Edits to the same article as listed above, also Polish IP, as are HanzoHattori's. Prime Blue (talk) 11:34, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * IP blocked 2 weeks. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 12:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I think as sock snice he's off the rails and trolling user pages again....86.24.9.104 (talk) 14:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Another Geolocate and R.I.P.E. IP number test
I looked at the nationality of the IPs with the Geolocate and R.I.P.E. buttons at the bottom of the I.P.'s talk page-

Wipsenade (talk) 14:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

History?
I think he may be related to these editors (User:88.111.194.14, User:86.29.240.253, User:86.29.253.109, User:88.110.142.244, User:86.25.51.230, User:159.105.80.80) to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Irma_Grese/Archive_1, so I'll check it out.Wipsenade (talk) 16:47, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

They were all as obnoxious as User:HanzoHattori and on a page he edited, but are not his socks.Wipsenade (talk) 17:09, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Another Geolocate and R.I.P.E. IP number test

 * :-)Wipsenade (talk) 17:09, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011
Edited same articles like Mileena, Kitana (Mortal Kombat), Ada Wong, etc. and avoidance of edit summaries. Tintor2 (talk) 20:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Suspected sockpuppets


 * Yawn. Really? And, so what? What damage was done anywhere? As opposed to improving articles? Better learn to not use random capitalization, which would be also an improvement. Edit summaries are a waste of time, and completely optional. Oh, and the "empty section" is there for a reason, and guess what, has just passed a a bid to delete it - because it's helpful. Dude, seriously, learn something about good editing. --94.246.154.130 (talk) 21:57, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


 * IP was blocked by HelloAnnyong for 2 years. Prime Blue (talk) 15:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

10 July 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

Same editing behavior and subjects, Polish editor, account usage falls in line with last IP block. Prime Blue (talk) 15:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Again? I've blocked and tagged per WP:DUCK, but I'll endorse for sleepers. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 16:01, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Nothing else. –MuZemike 19:13, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

26 July 2012

 * Suspected sockpuppets




 * User compare report Auto-generated every hour.

Same editing behavior and subjects, same bombardment of CN tags on articles, bold editor acting like a novice, using incivil comments and insults, also same demerging without discussion that is identical to  before being blocked. , as well as seeding his edits and edit history with exclamations like "Jesus Christ" as with the blocked IP. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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I'm the same person (or at least technically; I didn't use such a nickname since 2008), but an accusation of "using incivil comments and insults" is completely false, regarding "bombardment of CN tags", WP:V is a pillar of Wikipedia, and what Sjones23 called "demerging without discussion" was actually something completely opposite - just a revert of a merging without discussion (the article was created in seven years ago 2005 and apparently have never been merged, for a good reason). I have many other issues with quality of Sjones23's very reckless edits (like he also "forgot" to inform me that I'm under investigation), but that's not the subject now.

Now, I want to make a statement regarding my presence here on Wikipedia. I want to point to following facts:
 * There was never any fundamental fault in all of my 16,611 live edits in 2,716 articles in just little over 4 months since March 16, 2012 (over 90% of it being content edits, which I guess makes me some of the most active editors in all Wikipedia) and I invite anyone to check the quality of these edits for themselves; I believe they are top-notch (except some of possible minor grammar problems, I'm not from an English speaking country). Of these recent edits, I've completely rewritten (or basically wrote) hundreds of articles and I think several of these rewrite might deserve GA class (a dozen or so have already "easily" got to C-class and have been just not checked for any higher).
 * My patrolling activity in the same time period also led to the blockings of several vandals and spammers, and blacklisting on several spam websites (possibly most notably, gas chamber denial website "scrapbookpages.com" which was used for references and external links in nearly 100 Holocaust-related articles for several years).
 * Three different editors also gave me barnstars (I've never asked for any, or ever gave any to anyone, but they did and so I might mention it here), including one for "constant vandalism reverts and vast number of edits and cleanup".

I heard about some Wikipedia crisis regarding a shortage of good editors nowadays and so I want to use this occasion to request a reconsideration of my status here. I did interact with several admins regarding my anti-vandalism/spam activity (most recently, Daniel Case), you can also ask them for their opinion. Anyone can thoughtfully check my edit history since March and see if my impact of Wikipedia was any negative or was it actually positive, and how much. That's all. --Niemti (talk) 12:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC


 * Darth; accusations of "using incivil comments and insults" require evidence behind them. I'd ask you to substantiate them, please? Ironholds (talk) 12:31, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Regardless of that, he's an admitted block-evading sock. There are ways to appeal a block. Socking is not on that list. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:47, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Admitted sockpuppet. Indefinitely blocked. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:56, 27 July 2012 (UTC)