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Same disruptive behavior of bold move that against WP:commonname and/or consensus. It is very unusually a "new" user (registered in 2017, not active until the block of the alleged sockmaster) to know how to post Requested moves/Technical requests as well as contested technical request. Also overlapping interest in Chennai Central railway station. Matthew hk (talk) 06:01, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Compare Special:Diff/894428835 to Special:Diff/901361161. Matthew hk (talk) 06:08, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

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Yes I am a "New" user registered 2 years ago. I was not interested to login to make any changes as I was interested only to read. Now i changed my mind to read and edit things that i have felt to be wrong. You have no proof against me to prove that I have/had multiple accounts and they have been blocked. All I use is only this account. I challenge you to prove that i am a sockmaster. I am also interested and have made multiple edits on other pages that can be seen in my contribs. Its not only about Chennai Central railway station.Sai199610 (talk) 15:17, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

I have even made edits in the year 2018.Sai199610 (talk) 15:22, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes I do know how to post Requested moves/Technical requests since I have read it in Wikipedia itself. I also apologize to make a bold move since I was not much familiar about its rules.Sai199610 (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Yup, same disruptive behavior of bold move by coincidence or block evasion. You posted Requested moves/Technical requests again when the article was already have a WP:RM discussion thread in the article talk page. Matthew hk (talk) 06:45, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes but it was removed shortly after.Sai199610 (talk) 08:57, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Together with posting the article I had also added a comment: The discussions are open please do not remove this content.Sai199610 (talk) 17:21, 15 June 2019 (UTC) And I repeat I am a "New User" user "Unfamiliar to some rules". This is one that proves it.

This is a warning that I got from a user when I had again posted the move request on RM/TR: 'If an article is moved following a request at RM/TR, and the move is contested and the article is moved back, then it is not appropriate to file a new request at RM/TR. Please confirm that you understand this.' 'If you continue, I am afraid that it could be regarded as disruptive editing, possibly eventually leading to a block. Do you understand?

'''Yes I appolpgise. I did not read the message you left.''' Sai199610 (talk) 17:45, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

But do you understand that you should not post at RM/TR titles that have already been moved or titles that are currently under active RM discussion at their talk pages?

Once again another proof. This was what i asked the same user: 'I would like to ask you something as I am a New user about RM/TR. What should I do if I had made RM requests and there are no discussions taking place in the talk/discussion page? Can I make a bold move?' Sai199610 (talk) 17:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

I would also like to your notice that I have called for discussions but there has been replies by any User.Sai199610 (talk) 17:27, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

This is the message that I left on one of the user's talk page since I did not know what to do again depicts that I am a New User.

And this is the reply that I got: ': You are so welcome to ask questions. RMs run normally for seven days. Have patience and await other editors to join the discussions. Sometimes an RM will be relisted and run 14 days. I don't think it is good form to first open an RM, then close it and boldly move. But if you think a move is uncontroversial, most articles can be boldly moved in the first place without an RM. Do check out the article history and the talk page and its archive before moving. If there has been one or more prior RM discussions, consider if it is best to open a new discussion rather than boldly moving. Details at WP:RM. Naming convention docs are in Category:Wikipedia naming conventions. HTH,'.

I repeat I am a "New User Unfamiliar to some rules". But that doesn't mean I can't learn and does not have the capability to learn "New Stuff".

Now since the topic of how I was familiar to make moves was taken by User:Matthew hk, here is how I learnt:

'''Help:Rename https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Rename'''

I think User:Matthew hk does not value "New Users" and wants new users to be blocked by making unnecessary complaints.

Once again I challenge User:Matthew hk to prove that I am a sockmaster. Sai199610 (talk) 13:25, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

I would also like to know whether Wikipedia takes actions (like blocking user accounts) against Users making false allegations of sockpuppetry. And if yes where do I lodge my complaint. Sai199610 (talk) 13:32, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Please provide proper evidence (User:Matthew hk) when you are suspecting a user. You have provided no valid evidence. The difference that you have provided does not show to be any proper evidence. In fact the same changes were also made by other users also. Even I am looking into ways how to prove that I am not a sockmaster. Sai199610 (talk) 14:57, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Special:diff/893583655 Special:diff/901778852 Very similar comments. Sai199610 (talk) 04:49, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

I hope User:Matthew hk would have read this: '''Then again, two different people who have an interest or experience in a certain field may work on many identical articles. For example, people living in the same area (who may or may not know each other personally) may edit lots of articles on regional interests. Fans of a sports team may edit articles on many of its players. Those with knowledge in biology may also have studied chemistry. As many musicians also act, those who work on songs of the musician may also be involved with movies the star is in.''' And is also familiar with Signs of sock puppetry. I think a "New User" does not need to explain it to an "Extended Confirmed User". Sai199610 (talk) 05:11, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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 * ❌. --Deskana (talk) 14:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Cabayi (talk) 11:19, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for your time. Begoon 10:08, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm filing this under because that's the tag which  left on  when blocking them. Apologies if that's wrong.
 * Firstly there's the obvious username similarity between the three.
 * Haranari and Harhanan have these articles in common:, in a fairly niche area, and Harhanan has made 27 of their entire 28 article space edits to those articles. The only other edit, to Carl Johnson (Grand Theft Auto) was made immediately after I asked them if they were Haranari and inferred I would be asking for CU, and consists of adding whitespace to an infobox.
 * This is the overlap for the three users:
 * One of Harhanan's early edits was adding an honorific,, something Haranari persisted with even after being asked not to do it inappropriately. The rest of their edits have been mainly tinkering with the same infoboxes which their predecessor tinkered with.

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 * is ✅ to . Blocked and tagged.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 19:02, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Thank you for your time. -- Begoon 02:31, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Account created after previous sock is blocked.
 * Creates User page/talk page with early edits as "Hello all!!", , ,.
 * Same fascination with shoehorning extended names featuring MGR into articles, , ,.
 * Pinging as familiar with this sockmaster.

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 * ST47 (talk) 19:23, 23 September 2019 (UTC)