Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Harlow1937/Archive

20 February 2011

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Similar contribs, in same IP range as others including which is already blocked through a CU check. Maybe worth CU to see if there are others.  Chzz  ► 00:25, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

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 * - Checkuser should not be used to comment on IPs. This can also be done pretty easily from behavioral evidence alone. Sh i r ik  ( Questions or Comments? ) 00:40, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, of course; sorry.  Chzz  ► 00:47, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Blocked 208.101.233.0/24 for 1 month. There is a little collateral damage; those users that were uninvolved should request an account. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 00:42, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

12 December 2011

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Same articles, same ISP, geolocation the same as blocked IP 209.221.35.188 Lhb1239 (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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I believe in both cases the IP addresses are associated with, who has already been blocked 5 times (for what that's worth). I had already indicated my suspicions (and given evidence) at User talk:209.221.35.188. Also note that 209.221.35.188 was blocked for 2 weeks on Dec. 1. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:47, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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 * First, I've moved this case to show 1962monroe as the master. The first IP was already blocked for two weeks, and I blocked the second one for the same period of time. —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 03:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

14 June 2012

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Both accounts share the same modus operandi with (him or herself a sockpuppet of ), i.e. adding unsourced and/or non-neutral information to articles about Hollywood celebrities, films and TV shows. Also telling, I think, is the way each account makes several edits in a row with no edit summary (Rayburne1997: ; Belflower1997: ; 1962monroe: ) and never responds to comments or warnings, in fact making no edits in "Talk:" or "User talk:" name spaces at all (Belflower1997's Talk: edits and User talk: edits; Rayburne1997's Talk: edits and User talk: edits; monroe's Talk: edits and User talk: edits). On this basis I think these accounts pass WP:QUACK. Also note Belflower1997 and Rayburne1997's similar user names.

(Rayburne1997 is already blocked as of 2012-04-23.)

As for specific edits and comparisons, here are a few examples:

Rayburne1997 and Belflower1997 both have relatively recent involvement at I Dream of Jeannie (Rayburne1997: ; Belflower1997: ))., another sock account, had been at the same article a few months earlier.

1962monroe and Rayburne1997 were both involved (several months apart) at [ ] where they were both reverted for unsourced additions (1962monroe, ; Rayburne1997,, ).

More overlap at Gilligan's Island, where 1962monroe had created Ginger or Mary Ann?, then continued at Gilligan's Island after "Ginger or Mary Ann?" was changed to a redirect. Several months after 1962monroe was blocked, Rayburne1997 weighed in. Rayburne1997 was subsequently blocked and Belflower1997 showed up.

208.101.233.21 shows similar interests with these accounts and has shown up at, ,.

I could spend many more hours combing through article histories to find more places where these accounts overlap, but I hope this will suffice. I just checked the "User compare report" link and I think it describes it all pretty well, though. Gyrofrog (talk) 06:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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 * - specifically to check Belflower1997 against Rayburne1997. 1962monroe is stale but there is evidence here which supports checking the two listed socks.  ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  15:57, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

and are ✅ matches. More importantly though,. Of course, no comment on the IPs. Could a clerk also merge this case with Sockpuppet investigations/Harlow1937/Archive please? Elockid  ( Talk ) 22:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Remaining account blocked. Tags to be applied after case merge. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:52, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Cases merged from Sockpuppet investigations/1962monroe and tags applied. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 16:28, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

26 September 2012

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See Sockpuppet investigations/Harlow1937/Archive for blocked master plus a record of the various previous confirmed socks & suspected socks. As one example see editing history on Wicked Woman (film). Also refer to the various apparently-related suspected sockpuppets in the following ranges: 208.101.233.xxx, 209.221.3x.xxx plus the similarly-named confirmed sock accounts of User:Belflower1997 & User:Rayburne1997. Shearonink (talk) 17:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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Comment: Given the similarities (user name, topic overlap, and apparent unwillingness to post/respond in the Talk: or User talk: namespaces), I think this is obvious as per WP:QUACK. I think it would be simpler to block these on sight as they appear, but where this case is concerned, I think it may help to look for sleeper accounts, if possible. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:14, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I've already given a 24-hour block for disruptive editing, aside from this pending SPI case. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:18, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * Unfortunately, the CU data on the last confirmed sock has gone stale, so I can't do a direct comparison, but based on the ISP and topics they are editing, I'd say that it is highly that this is Harlow1937.
 * In addition, the following accounts are ✅ matches to one another:
 * . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 20:23, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  03:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 20:23, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  03:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 20:23, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  03:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * . ​—DoRD (talk)​ 20:23, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  03:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. -- DQ  (ʞlɐʇ)  03:13, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

30 September 2012

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See IP contributions plus Sockpuppet investigations/Harlow1937/Archive as well as 208.101.233.76's Archived Notices. Shearonink (talk) 17:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

See also Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Harlow1937 which includes apparently-related IP-editors that also edit film-topic articles: 208.101.233.100 (contributions) & 208.101.233.42(contributions). Latest confirmed sock (Dbelflower1997 - contributions) was blocked September 27, 2012 (block log). Shearonink (talk) 20:45, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

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I've gone ahead and blocked for a week, because WP:QUACK. It's the same ISP as other IP addresses associated with this editor, but I think there are too many to do a range block (though I'd welcome a 2nd opinion on that). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:43, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Range blocked along with another sleeper. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 18:56, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

10 November 2012

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Like suspected sockmaster: Exclusively edits movie/Hollywood/TV articles. Almost never uses reliable sources. Rarely responds to any talkpage notices/Warnings. Writes POV material that resembles essays. Account-name mimics some of the sockmaster's confirmed socks, such as Dbelflower1997, Belflower1997 plus Rayburne1997. Shearonink (talk) 01:17, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

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Unsurprisingly, Brbelflower1997 is a ✅ sock. Didn't find any other accounts though. Elockid  ( Talk ) 13:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  00:49, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeffing sock with tag and closing.

21 June 2013

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Harlow1937 is an indefinitely blocked sockpuppet. User:1962monroe is also a blocked sockpuppet of this editor, and subsequently evaded his block under the IP 209.221.35.36. This IP account has now recently resumed troubling behavior by adding false information to classic film articles, which is demonstrably false. See Esther Williams (and compare to the Quigley list, and numerous edits to the Jean Harlow article on June 2. I've been working my way through their edits correcting the damage, but ideally they need to be prevented from doing any more. Betty Logan (talk) 02:11, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

@Kww This is the chain of events:
 * 1) User:Harlow1937 is blocked for operating multiple accounts.
 * 2) User:1962monroe is blocked for being a sockpuppet of Harlow1937.
 * 3) User:209.221.35.36 was blocked in July 2012 after being identified as 1962monroe.

There has already been a confirmed link between all three accounts.

In July 2012 (the month the IP was identified as 1962monroe, the IP edited:
 * Doris Day, Doris Day filmography, The Doris Day Show
 * Betty Grable
 * 1952 in film, 1954 in film, 1956 in film, 1957 in film, 1958 in film, 1961 in film, 1962 in film, 1963 in film, 1964 in film
 * Call Me Mister (film)
 * Mamie Van Doren

Across May/June 2013:
 * Joan Crawford filmography
 * Bette Davis
 * Knight Without Armour
 * Marlene Dietrich filmography
 * Jean Harlow
 * Greta Garbo, Greta Garbo filmography
 * Knots Landing
 * Falcon Crest
 * Esther Williams
 * 1930 in film, 1946 in film, 1947 in film, 1949 in film, 1950 in film, 1951 in film

Same topic area: Hollywood Golden age actresses and the corresponding "19XX in film" articles of that period. Given the huge (almost exclusive overlap) in topic area and the previous connection between the IP number and the blocked accounts, I reasonably sure this is the same editor, especially given the huge amount of factually inaccurate content being added into the article

User:Classicfilmbuff has just brought another account to my attention: User:BeautyMan1997. The pages edited by BeautyMan1997 are as follows:
 * BeautyMan1997
 * Box Office Poison (magazine article)
 * Joan Crawford, Joan Crawford filmography, Mildred Pierce (film)
 * Greta Garbo
 * Mae West
 * Fred Astaire
 * Kay Francis
 * Dynasty (TV series)
 * Designing Women
 * Petticoat Junction
 * Jean Harlow, Jean Harlow filmography, Dinner at Eight (film)
 * Knots Landing
 * John Barrymore
 * Norma Shearer
 * Luise Rainer
 * 1978–79 United States network television schedule
 * List of Dallas (1978 TV series) episodes

A link has already been established between the three accounts, and now there is a suspect fourth account. The topic area is mainly the same (Golden age Hollywood actresses and 70s/80s American soaps) and the MO is the same: introducing many factually inaccurate errors. Even if the SPI aspect cannot be proven beyond doubt, there is a serious competency dimension to take into account too. Betty Logan (talk) 20:30, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

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 * The 'Editor Interaction Analyzer' shows recent commonality of editing between BeautyMan1997 (the now-confirmed sock of Harlow1937) and IP editor (previously blocked as puppet of sockmaster/Harlow1937) 209.221.35.36 on Joan Crawford filmography on May 25, 2013 with this chain of edits:
 * 10 minutes between
 * 14 hours between
 * During this time-period, no other users edited this article. Shearonink (talk) 15:26, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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I need a few more specific diffs to convince me.&mdash;Kww(talk) 17:56, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You have described a chain of events along with a list of common articles. What we need are diffs from both the master and suspected sock, presented in a clear and concise manner. If there is a plethora of evidence, choose only the most salient points. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:04, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Closing as IP is now stale, no point in blocking even if a sock. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

27 June 2013

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Like suspected sockmaster: Exclusively edits movie/Hollywood/TV articles, w/special attention paid to "Blonde Bombshell/sex symbol" articles like Jean Harlow, Mae West, Greta Garbo. Rarely uses any reliable sources. Almost never responds to any talkpage posts/notices/Warnings. Writes POV material that resembles essays. Removes maintenance templates without attending to their stated issues. Account-name mimics some of the sockmaster's confirmed socks, such as Dbelflower1997, Belflower1997, Rayburne1997. See Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of 1962monroe & Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Harlow1937. Shearonink (talk) 03:32, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Did not realize that this user was previously reported by User:Betty Logan. Is what I posted above not enough for an SP/I?  Will do my best to answer concerns below, but please realize that the SPI/Twinkle reporting-form only allows so much information and does not allow for Previewing the initial Report.


 * The Editor Interaction Utility shows a chain of edits at Jean Harlow between BeautyMan1997 & 209.221.35.36 all on the same days & sometimes within minutes of each other.  The 209.221.xx.xx IP range is a confirmed haunt of the master/1962monroe.
 * Sockmaster added unsourced POV/essay/fancruft statements to Dorothy Dandridge including here, here, etc.
 * Suspected sockpuppet added unsourced POV/essay statements to Jean Harlow here, here, etc.
 * Sockmaster removed maintenance templates without addressing their issues: here, here, here, etc.
 * Suspected sockpuppet removed maintenance templates without addressing their issues here, here, here, etc.
 * Hope this is enough...I had been thinking WP:DUCK would apply, but perhaps not. Shearonink (talk) 05:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

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 * King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:35, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The evidence is a little weak, but the overlap on Jean Harlow and the set of diffs showing removal of maintenance templates should be enough for a check at least. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:02, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Very and for all extents and purposes, BeautyMan1997 is a ✅ sock. WilliamH (talk) 07:40, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * User blocked, this subsection closed. NativeForeigner Talk 20:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC)