Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Haydar Pamuk/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets

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After the creation of Cilicia12345 account and this revert in, Haydar Pamuk appears on 25 December to revert exactly the same place in the article several times: , , ,. User:Addictedtohistory also reverted in the same article during Cilicia12345 and Haydar Pamuk's activity. Brandmeistertalk  12:44, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

SoulBlader, Le grand lapin and AdmiralHyE97 have also been involved in reverting or editing the same article this month. The account of Le grand lapin was opened after Haydar Pamuk got a 31-hour block for edit-warring. Brandmeistertalk  11:11, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

IP 199.189.20.50 joined to revert the above article on 27 December. Brandmeistertalk  17:30, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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The following comments by and  were from another report, concerning Haydar Pamuk and SoulBlader, which I am merging into this. Girth Summit  (blether) 15:25, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Accounts same age, only attacking one page, same MO. Likely a WP:DUCK, but could do with some clarity. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:56, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Note that if the identity is confirmed, the edits on 27 December are made in block evasion.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:00, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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I have merged Sockpuppet investigations/Haydar Pamuk into this case, since both the suspected sock and master in that report appear as suspected socks in this one. Girth Summit  (blether) 15:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * - I'm seeing enough new account creation and identical editing interests to be suspicious, but some of these might just be people with a similar POV. They're all recent, requesting a CU to see if we can get definite hits on which are the socks (and potentially pick up any others). Girth Summit  (blether)  15:53, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * related to each other (not the master):


 * Relation to the master is :


 * ❌ as far as technical evidence goes:
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   16:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   16:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   16:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Indefinitely blocking Le grand lapin as a sock of Haydar Pamuk, who is blocked for block evasion. I see the main locus of disruption has been protected, and disruption seems to have stopped for now at least. Closing Girth Summit  (blether)  18:03, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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Recent activity in the WP:AA2 area and at Articles for deletion/Zangezur corridor in particular suggests some suspicious patterns. I believe that at least some accounts are interconnected, possibly also involving the sock of Haydar Pamuk whose block has expired but who is now dormant. The rest are also focused largely on Armenia-Azerbaijan, with ZaniGiovanni being the oldest among the active ones (although older accounts may be involved). The accounts may be used interchangeably in reverts, e.g. and  and the usage of foreign names in usernames is noteworthy: ZaniGiovanni, BaxçeyêReş, Haydar Pamuk. CU is requested. Brandmeistertalk  09:52, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * The is in the same geolocation as the master. The rest are from entirely different countries altogether.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   04:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The is in the same geolocation as the master. The rest are from entirely different countries altogether.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   04:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The is in the same geolocation as the master. The rest are from entirely different countries altogether.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   04:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The is in the same geolocation as the master. The rest are from entirely different countries altogether.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   04:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The is in the same geolocation as the master. The rest are from entirely different countries altogether.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   04:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The is in the same geolocation as the master. The rest are from entirely different countries altogether.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   04:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The is in the same geolocation as the master. The rest are from entirely different countries altogether.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   04:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Note for the record that BaxçeyêReş has been blocked as someone else's sock. I do not think Noonewiki is Hayadar; as with a lot of these extremely controversial topic areas, off-wiki canvassing (or even just the mention of these articles on some kind of external forum) is possible but nigh-impossible to prove. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:01, 14 August 2021 (UTC)