Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Heliosphere/Archive

Report date August 25 2009, 06:05 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

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 * Evidence submitted by Irbisgreif (talk)

I have no experiences with this user, this report is based on the WP:WQA report. See Wikiquette_alerts Irbisgreif (talk) 06:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users
 * I have no real reason to believe Satanoid et. al. indulged(s) in Sockpuppetry. In looking at this editor's work, my impression is that the editor gets a bad rep on an account and simply moves on.  I have not personally felt strongly that the editor was editing with more than one account at a time, though I have had suspicions due to highly similar positions, turns of phrase, editing style.  The Satanoid/Morbid Fairy/Analtap/Heliosphere progression seems quite legitimate, though I do wish the dead accounts were marked for posterity.- sinneed (talk) 13:24, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, some of the WQA notes seem very interesting. It doesn't look good to me.- sinneed (talk) 13:37, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Adding:


 * Which is indeed currently problematic.- sinneed (talk) 21:39, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that is red so I suspect I did not do it correctly. I apologize for ignorance here.- sinneed (talk) 21:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well that is red so I suspect I did not do it correctly. I apologize for ignorance here.- sinneed (talk) 21:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note that he has been blocked by and report to this Admin as well. Thanks --Sikh- History 14:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Requested by Irbisgreif (talk) 06:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * CheckUser requests

and please see about a rangeblock. — Jake   Wartenberg  14:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Note that Morbid Fairy was blocked as a result of the Gurbinder_singh1 case. The other accounts are not currently blocked. Analtap was username blocked, but unblocked to allow a rename to Heliosphere. Nathan  T 14:55, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Since we're here anyway, I've added Gurbinder_singh1 to the list above so we can straighten out definitively who is who. Nathan  T 15:01, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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 * The IPs are to be related to the above.
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 * appears to be ❌ to any of these. J.delanoy gabs adds  16:01, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * In my opinion a block of Heliosphere is not completely necessary; the initial block was based primarily on behavior (edit warring and disruption). Subsequent accounts have not overlapped, so the issue is one of block evasion. While evasion has clearly occurred, it isn't clear from the history of Analtap/Heliosphere (which, keep in mind, was a new account registered following a username block/unblock) that the problematic behavior has continued. Nathan  T 16:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions
 * Leaving Heliosphere unblocked with a warning for the moment, per Nathan. Analtap blocked and tagged.  —  Jake   Wartenberg  21:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Moved case to Satanoid from Heliosphere. —  Jake   Wartenberg  21:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Rangeblocks implemented to keep him from editing while logged out or creating more accounts. Please come back if abuse continues.  —  Jake   Wartenberg  21:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Nathan  T 22:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Report date October 12 2009, 19:01 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

Previous SPI - same address range Same behaviour. Same article. Won't communicate, won't change behaviour. In this case just tag-team adding a tag in a pointless location. It is still faintly possible the editor will heed an uninvolved editor. - Sinneed  19:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC) This is just more at Sikh extremism adding a flag covering no text and here.
 * Evidence submitted by - Sinneed
 * Well, I read this as "don't edit while logged out/anon". I was about to go make a longwinded explanation to the "new" editor and realized it was Satanoid, just because I have seen the address string so much, checked to be sure I was right.  Sorry for the time-waster.


 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments


 * Is there a 3RR violation or something? Previous cases have established that this IP and the user Heliosphere are the same person, I'm not sure what you'd like this new report to accomplish if there isn't more evidence of disruptive behavior. Nathan  T 19:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Reply to Sinneed - yeah, key phrase there I think is "edit in a disruptive manner...while logged out." Marking the case closed as that doesn't appear to have happened here. Nathan  T 20:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions