Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hrmsunil2/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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Master and sock both created Draft:Markand Adhikari within a day of each other, after the first version was deleted. Nirupammathur makes what looks like an admission of paid editing here: "I'm sorry for this ambagious editing, which eventually was paid till I disclosed and deleted the page..." The whole thing looks very much like paid editing, and was also reported as a COIN thread. --- Possibly &#9742; 06:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the lightning fast service! Regarding the drafts created by these users, can they be speedy deleted? I cannot remember if G5 applies there.  --- Possibly &#9742; 07:04, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Possibly - If the article or page was created after the user's block (meaning that they evaded their block and created the page), then yes - G5 would apply.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:51, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * . The accounts are both in the same geolocation, but on different ranges and user agents. The behavioral similarities are close enough for me to warrant a block on both of the accounts. Closing SPI...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   07:01, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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More single purpose accounts interested in Draft:Markand Adhikari. The majority of Aditi Bansal Dhar's edits has consisted of removing the MFD and COI templates from the draft. Seemingly in revenge at the draft being sent to MFD NikitaSinghbh tagged the page on Subhash Chandra for an MFD discussion, following which Aditi Bansal Dhar immediatley turned up to move the page to draftspace. The disruptive move was reverted, following which Aditi Bansal Dhar showed up to re-add NikitaSinghbh's MFD tag. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 14:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Also compare these log entries: Hrmsunil2 "He is the well known personality and pioneer of the industry. So please keep this celebrity profile on the Wikipedia." vs Aditi Bansal Dhar "He has a very strong personality in the market and I believe he should be on Wikiepdia. He is the chairman and managing director of Sri Adhikari Brothers (SAB Group)." . The use of the word "personality" in this context and the reasoning that having a strong/well known personality qualifies this person for an article seem rather similar. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 14:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Finally in this comment Nirupammathur claims that Aditi Bansal Dhar is working for a paid editing company and they now them professionally, there's some really funky stuff going on in that MFD.

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 * I find this combination of reports implausible as Nirupammathur was making severe accusations about Aditi Bansal Dhar running a paid editing "syndicate" (see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Markand Adhikari). It's hard to believe they are the same person since the only result of making such a public fuss is to draw negative attention towards them both which would prevent their publishing of sponsored articles. I know there are Good Hand, Bad Hand socks but Nirupammathur was soliciting admin help to investigate Aditi Bansal Dhar which I think goes beyond those kind of sockpuppet games. Liz Read! Talk! 01:36, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Based on the coordinated vandalism of Subhash Chandra (i.e brand new account tags the article for MFD, autoconfirmed account turns up to move it to draft space + re-add the MFD tag when it was removed) I'm fairly sure the two accounts I listed are the same person, and based on the similarity of log entries and interest in Markand Adhikari's draft I'm fairly sure they're the same person as Hrmsunil2 (or at least, they're coordinating editing with them). Nirupammathur though I'm not sure about, behaviourally they don't seem to match up at all - they were trying to delete the draft while the other accounts were trying to keep it. I think it's probable that they're a different person and they are being honest about previously being part of a paid editing firm. Why they'd want to get all the articles they were paid to write deleted I have no idea. Perhaps they decided that asking for people to pay for Wikipedia articles was unethical and wanted to wash their hands of it? Disgruntled former employee trying to tank their boss's business? As I said in my last comment above it's all rather weird but these accounts are definitely connected in some way. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 02:35, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
 * That's my feeling as well. I guess it ultimately doesn't matter as both editors are blocked but I still have the desire for this situation "make sense". Probably a futile exercise when dealing with sockpuppets which is why I don't spend much time chasing them. Sockpuppetry/SPI is its own world where there are different norms for understanding editor behavior. Liz Read! Talk! 04:45, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - TheresNoTime 😺 16:32, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * is to . These are  to the master + other confirmed socks. Not the easiest of calls for reasons already mentioned in other cases.  - TheresNoTime 😺 16:46, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like we're all done here. Closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC)