Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hublolly/Archive

10 July 2012

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Roux's [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SarekOfVulcan&diff=prev&oldid=501167688 edit to my talkpage]: A moment of clarity for you.

You are not permitted to post to my talkpage under any circumstances. The history of your attitude towards me is far too long for anyone with more than one braincell to believe you are unbiased. Is that clear? Do not, ever, post to my talkpage again. If I have done something so egregious that I need talking to, someone else will do it. Not you. Ever. As an editor or as an admin, you are permanently unwelcome at my talkpage. I will not be watching your page, and should you ever post to my talkpage again it will be construed as harassment and I will take it to ArbCom if necessary. I trust we understand each other. Goodbye. → ROUX ₪ 23:22, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Hublolly's [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jprg1966&diff=prev&oldid=501600964 edit to Jprg1966's talkpage]: A moment of clarity for you

You are not permitted to post to my talkpage under any circumstances - given your paranoia and obsession with getting me into trouble. Is that clear? Do not, ever, at all, in any shape, form, geometry, infiltration procedure, post to my talkpage again. If I have done something so egregious that I need talking to, someone else will do it. Not you. Ever. As an editor or as an admin, you are permanently unwelcome at my talkpage. I will not be watching your page, and should you ever post to my talkpage again it will be construed as harassment and I will take it to ArbCom if necessary. Never. Ever. Forever. To eternity and beyond - when our atoms become the reminants of the destroyed solar system, to drift through the universe and from which anything can happen - be it that they form a new planetary nebula and solar systems with new life forms which devlop their own computer technologies and internets and wikipedias telling the same thing to simalar editors, or crushed and shredded by black-holes, whooshed through wormholes (should such cosmological topology exist in spacetime fabric), and collapsed into the big crunch or frozen solid in the "deep freeze" end to the universe. Except that you will not edit my talk page. Not ever. For all time. Understood? Sparkling clear as a wine glass? Actually - is diamond opaque in comparison to what I just said? I trust we understand each other. Goodbye. :-/ Hublolly (talk) 18:43, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Roux is currently under a two-week block, so if they match, this is block evasion. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I just added the IP above, as it claimed to be Roux posting to WP:BN and User talk:Roux. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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I am quite believe they are socks but I just thought I better point out that it is entirely possible that Hublolly is copying Roux to cause trouble. Dmcq (talk) 08:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The technical indistinguishability might be due to the fact that they are both students at Birmingham Uni, this is evidenced by this discussion on F=...talk page, . Hublolly and F=... seem very different in character to me.--Salix (talk): 09:02, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Their commenting styles looked quite similarly messy, I haven't checked through the diffs though so it is merely anecdotal. It also fits why so many of the very few article space edits made were confrontational with F=q(E+v^B) . IRWolfie- (talk) 09:17, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Their commenting styles struck me as messy in different ways. I wonder if a lexical analysis could settle the question? RockMagnetist (talk) 18:07, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I'm just a bit confused by all this. Why is Roux's similarity to Hublolly being shown as a reason to ban F=q(E+v^B)  thanks? Dmcq (talk) 11:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean: F=q(E+v^B) was a technical match to Hublolly, see below. IRWolfie- (talk) 12:11, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * In previous months of discussion with F=, I haven't seen him write anything of this nature. It would be quite a Jekyll/Hyde case, if true. While there is always the possibility I have been fooled, I still think it is unlikely they are the same person. Rschwieb (talk) 12:19, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind this statement from CheckUser: "CheckUser is not magic wiki pixie dust. Almost all queries about IPs will be because two editors were behaving the same way or an editor was behaving in a way that appears suggestive of possible disruption. An editing pattern match is the important thing; the IP match is really just extra evidence (or not)." RockMagnetist (talk) 18:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * His claims about what happened User_talk:F%3Dq(E%2Bv^B) are a little hard to believe. IRWolfie- (talk) 18:11, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I think F=q(E+v^B) should be given the benefit of the doubt. His efforts to improve Wikipedia have always struck me as sincere, and he was mostly adding content rather than tweaking existing content. His judgement and writing skill were not always up to the job but that is no reason to block him. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:19, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * is ✅ from User:F=q(E+v^B). WilliamH (talk) 19:49, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And to elaborate, a technical connection between Hublolly and Roux is . No comment on the IP address listed. WilliamH (talk) 20:01, 10 July 2012 (UTC)