Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Huo Xin/Archive

Report date November 14 2009, 18:48 (UTC)

 * Suspected sockpuppets

Users came to my attention because they both filed requests at WP:RPP for the same article, with Huo Xin coming in after Clftruthseeking's request was denied. They have very similar user pages. Analysis of their edit histories reveals that they edit the same articles, but never on the same day as the other. They have all this editing in common, yet they never seem to communicate directly with one another. Either sock or meat puppetry seems evident. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:48, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Evidence submitted by Beeblebrox (talk)

Though I appreciate Beeblebrox' concerns, they are incorrect. First, the simultaneity of posting a WP:RPP is coincidental and is probably based on the recency of repeated targeted vandalism on one particular section within the article. The article is on my watchlist and I checked it and found the targeted edits which heightened my observation of the page. I would suspect that that is also what happened to the Huo Xin. It is not unreasonable when an attack has been made on very specific persons included within an article to keep a close watch on it. In B's third sentence the accusation is based, in part, on the claim that "...edit histories reveals that they edit the same articles, but never on the same day as the other.", however, even on the first page of historical edits as recently as August 4, 2009 edits were made by myself and the other user. Further on July 16, 2009 Beeblebrox is disproved once again where three separate users were making various edits; myself, Nate1481 and Huo Xin. It seems that B did not check the history very thoroughly prior to making this accusation. Please check my IP address. It shows up in a few places of the edit history as 69.104.241.38 when I forgot to log in. Clftruthseeking (talk) 19:53, 14 November 2009 (UTC)Clftruthseeking (talk) 21:27, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

There is no sockpuppetry going on. Clftruthseeking and I both maintain watch over this page. I watch over it on a daily basis from home and from work. If you analyze the entries you will see that I do much of my editing during the week from UC Berkeley during work hours, and from Concord during the weekends and nights. I can ensure you that we are separate users. We are working together to prevent vandalism on the page and to maintain it's integrity.

In the past, other users have tried to create an article about Cai Li Fo (translit: Choi Lei Fut, Choy Lee Fut, Tsai Li Fo, etc.), and because of it's complex history, and the lack of quality and breadth of past articles, it has often been vandalized, removed, destroyed or altered to promote a specific political viewpoint.

Thus I created a new article that was wider in historical breadth and information, including information regarding the origins and evolution of the various branches that developed from the original school. A lot of time, effort, research, was made to authenticate the information, as well as communication with some of the actual people involved with the history was done.

This current situation of vandalism has nothing to do with improving the article or providing more information. I have seen the edit history and they are targeting one of the people mentioned on the page by removing names, removing whole sections, and altering the Chinese characters to insults or incorrect characters.

No one wishes to deny anyone the ability to access and edit the contents of this article - or any article that I have created or edited. Any help is welcome if other users wish to contribute verifiable facts and maintaining a neutral viewpoint.

That is why a semi-protected page was requested - to prevent vandals from damaging the article. Authenticated users are welcome to contribute at any time. I want contributors to be accountable and discuss.

I just tried to use the checkuser request tag. Not clear on how to use it here even after reading the how to checkuser page. Huo Xin (talk) 22:21, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments by other users


 * Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
 * . Brandon (talk) 22:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Conclusions

Per CU. Peter Symonds ( talk ) 20:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)