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Like other Kingshowman socks (e.g., , this account has vandalized hurricane-related articles by changing storm names names. Older account example: . Similar vandalism by the new account: , . Possibly consistent with past behavior, their user page is a naming list from a fake hurricane season. They seem to have moved on to vandalizing storm names elsewhere, since Tropical cyclone naming is now protected, but previous Kingshowman socks have gotten around that protection by using small edits to reach autoconfirmed status. TornadoLGS (talk) 23:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * Thank you. I had through the form of vandalism (replacing names with ones of the same first letter) was pretty similar, but I can see them being different. But that leads to another conundrum that I've thought about. There appear to be several LTAs that target hurricane articles. We'll sometimes have a new account that appears to be one of these LTAs, but it's unclear which one, and I'm not sure how to proceed in such cases. If this entry is archived in the mean time, you can reply on my talk page. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I have moved this from Sockpuppet investigations/Kingshowman.
 * Right now, the only evidence and connection to Kingshowman would be vandalism to hurricane related articles which could apply to a lot of people given the popularity of that topic area. There are some noticeable differences as well between these latest accounts and Kingshowman. For example, these latest accounts seem singularly focused on vandalizing hurricane related articles whereas most Kingshowman socks edited into other areas like AFD or political articles. In fact it was rare of them to be singularly focused SPAs. I think we have to consider the possibility that we're dealing with potentially different sock masters unless stronger technical and behavioral evidence can connect the two groups.
 * . Mkdw  talk 16:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Firstly, thank you for vigilance in protecting this topic area. I was surprised to see how much vandalism, even outside of socking, there appeared to be on some of these articles. Much more than I would have thought. Generally speaking, we just try and do our best. There are definitely sock masters that have multiple SPIs. And, there are definitely multiple sock masters that have been combined into a single SPI. These things happen and typically we get better at spotting patterns and tendencies. I've seen a few of these SPIs where the familiar editors agree that it should be split into two different sock masters.
 * If you have a suspected sock and there is more than one possibility of who the sock master might be, I'd recommend you file it with the closest match and mention that the suspected accounts may also shares similarities to another sock master. In this case, the vandalism is fairly clear and if it was filed either here or Kingshowman, a check could still be assessed. Ultimately it's much less important that we find the right sock master rather than ensure the accounts are blocked for disruptive editing and any potential sleepers are found and pre-emptively blocked to prevent further damage. A sock master on a dedicated mission to create socks will usually find a way regardless of whether they have an LTA page or not. Mkdw  talk 23:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * . Mkdw  talk 16:14, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Firstly, thank you for vigilance in protecting this topic area. I was surprised to see how much vandalism, even outside of socking, there appeared to be on some of these articles. Much more than I would have thought. Generally speaking, we just try and do our best. There are definitely sock masters that have multiple SPIs. And, there are definitely multiple sock masters that have been combined into a single SPI. These things happen and typically we get better at spotting patterns and tendencies. I've seen a few of these SPIs where the familiar editors agree that it should be split into two different sock masters.
 * If you have a suspected sock and there is more than one possibility of who the sock master might be, I'd recommend you file it with the closest match and mention that the suspected accounts may also shares similarities to another sock master. In this case, the vandalism is fairly clear and if it was filed either here or Kingshowman, a check could still be assessed. Ultimately it's much less important that we find the right sock master rather than ensure the accounts are blocked for disruptive editing and any potential sleepers are found and pre-emptively blocked to prevent further damage. A sock master on a dedicated mission to create socks will usually find a way regardless of whether they have an LTA page or not. Mkdw  talk 23:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If you have a suspected sock and there is more than one possibility of who the sock master might be, I'd recommend you file it with the closest match and mention that the suspected accounts may also shares similarities to another sock master. In this case, the vandalism is fairly clear and if it was filed either here or Kingshowman, a check could still be assessed. Ultimately it's much less important that we find the right sock master rather than ensure the accounts are blocked for disruptive editing and any potential sleepers are found and pre-emptively blocked to prevent further damage. A sock master on a dedicated mission to create socks will usually find a way regardless of whether they have an LTA page or not. Mkdw  talk 23:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 14:01, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have also blocked another likely sock, Daniel Case (talk) 05:11, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I ran a check for sleepers. Nothing apparent but this account is ✅ to the other socks and master. Mkdw  talk 05:28, 27 January 2022 (UTC)