Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hzolnier/Archive

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This user account has been used for one purpose--the expungement of well-cited materials on Harry Zolnierczyk which tend to cast the subject in a poor light. The other named account and two ips have performed identical edits within the last 90 days. This behavior is similar to that in 2014, after which a talk thread was created to discuss the merits of the material; after discussion this material was truncated and an outcome presented. I'm inclined to hear discussion about the merits of inclusion, but I'm not inclined to ignore what is apparently the use of multiple accounts to accomplish one purpose. BusterD (talk) 19:19, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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The alleged master is. CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:44, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Ugh. Unclear what to do here.  I think it's likely that these are socks.  Looking at the history of that article, we could also include:




 * in the list. And, based on the user name and this edit comment, this appears to be the subject's PR manager.


 * Here's the problem. The material that's being removed is defamatory, and (IMHO) doesn't have any place in a WP:BLP.  The article is about a hockey player.  It doesn't need lurid details of his personal life, whether they're backed up by WP:RS or not.  This was discussed at WP:BLP a while ago.  So, we've got what's obviously a sock, but I just can't see that blocking and moving on, thinking we've done something useful, is the right response.  I'll leave this open for somebody else to figure out where we should go from here.  -- RoySmith (talk) 01:59, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The material is no more defamatory than the equivalent sections in Gary Glitter, Jimmy Savile or Bill Cosby. The discussion at BLP fizzled out with text, pretty similar to the current text, being accepted (or maybe acquiesced to).
 * Blocking the master and obvious socks uncovered by won't prevent the recurring abuse but it will provide a base from which future socks can be judged, and it will let Hzolnier know the behavioural expectations of the community. Given the disposible single-use nature of the socks, semi-protection of the article is probably the best defence (but beyond the scope of SPI). On the basis of that...


 * Please block the master for 3 days and indef the named socks (Sallymac90 and those identified by Roy). Cabayi (talk) 12:23, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Cabayi - ✅. Closing SPI report...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:37, 24 December 2019 (UTC)