Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/IcaroJudah/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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These accounts have both been submitting the same draft on King of Christmas. IcaroJudah appears to be the senior account. There are other socks involved, some after the block of Maria Cristina Longo. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:45, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * based on behavioral evidence. They are running through botnets so things are a bit weird on my end. -- Guerillero &#124;  Parlez Moi  04:30, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Tagged and closing. GABgab 11:02, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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Continuation of submission of King of Christmas drafts after User:Maria Cristina Longo was blocked. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:46, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * based on behavioral. They are running through botnets so things are a bit weird on my end. -- Guerillero &#124;  Parlez Moi  04:30, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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All posting or reposting on Draft:King of Christmas topic. The Dr acct posted the same page as soon as I nominated the Draft at MfD. The Maria acct was blocked for undisclosed paid editing Legacypac (talk) 22:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Cross reference to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:King of Christmas Legacypac (talk) 22:53, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * User:Ponyo - Thank you. Please ask a clerk to consolidate these SPIs, since User:Legacypac and I went after the same suckpoppets at the same time.  I take it that you are saying that in UPE cases, there may really be different humans behind different accounts, in which case the issue is the UPE and not any suckpoppetry.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:07, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations/IcaroJudah is the other filing Legacypac (talk) 23:11, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Ponyo - Yes, as to animal protein, but it is my opinion that the rule against meatpuppetry is incomprehensible, because there is no clear test for a rational H. sapiens, typically made of meat, to identify what is said to be meatpuppetry and what is humans agreeing with each other. If they are agreeing with each other because they are being paid, that is paid editing, and we have rules about that.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


 * As per an advert on upwork.com Maria Cristina Longo was hired to create Draft:Counect and some other pages but unfortunately those adverts are not publicly visible. The freelancer who was hired to create Counect is an active paid editor since April 2018 months before IcaroJudah was registered. GSS (talk |c|em ) 05:03, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * CU note: Checkuser is pretty much useless for linking socks in UPE cases as many of the individuals participating are responding to online contracts and do not share technical info. In a way this makes reports such as this easier to deal with as you just have to look at the various brand new accounts popping up to recreate articles on the same non-notable topics in order to collect a paycheque. As the account has been blocked for violations of the TOU, any other accounts created to continue in this manner should just be blocked as WP:MEAT. --  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:02, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:MEAT is still a form of sockpuppetry. Specifically "A new user who engages in the same behavior as another user in the same context, and who appears to be editing Wikipedia solely for that purpose, may be subject to the remedies applied to the user whose behavior they are joining." Could this please be merged with Sockpuppet investigations/IcaroJudah?--  Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:15, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:40, 9 February 2019 (UTC)