Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ijeffsc/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
Both editors are far too verbose in the same style in support of the exact same specific point.

From 30 December to 30 January Ijeffsc posted lengthy and pseudo-civil arguments against the specific sources used to support the term "far-right" in the lead of Epoch Times. That user was blocked for WP:RGW and WP:NOTHERE on Feb. 1. They made an additional test-post on Feb 8.

In this edit from Ijeffsc, that editor (condescendingly) mentions logical fallacies and asks loaded questions about why the page was locked. The editor also says There are a number of wording changes I could imagine might satisfy everyone but it would require some level of open minded classical liberal thinking.

Compare to this edit, where ClifV says I respect your agnostic mindset, and agree with moving forward on whittling down the unnecessary citations. (It is not clear from context that this is an "agreement").

After initially focusing on the number of citations, ClifV has now shifted to repeating Ijeffsc's claims, such as this lengthy post which is functionally the same, using the same arguments, as most of Ijeffsc's comments at Talk:The_Epoch_Times

Compare also to this edit from ClifV which attempts to use simplistic logical fallacies to support the same basic idea. Grayfell (talk) 06:11, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * Blocked and tagged. Special:contributions/104.232.117.132 is likely the same person. I would have blocked them, but they seem to have stopped editing. If they resume, please let me know. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 14:57, 28 February 2024 (UTC)