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Isabella Mayor seems to be the oldest of multiple accounts that have the sole purpose of submitting articles on Draft:Karl Lillrud. This is almost certainly UPE, and is either sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry. Request Checkuser to see if they are the same person. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * This seems to go back even further. User:Umair444 admitted to paid editing, and was blocked in October 2019, then there was Karl Lillrud 1 and User:Hanirana259, both from earlier this month. Deb (talk) 19:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * another one User:MaxwellJames KylieTastic (talk) 14:12, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * This SPI should be merged with the one at Sockpuppet investigations/KarlLillrud123; Isabella Mayor is an older account than KarlLillrud123, but is a little older still. --bonadea contributions talk 16:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * and another User:Razasardar KylieTastic (talk) 11:59, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅ to one another:
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 *  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   01:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The SandDoctor Talk 07:26, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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A bunch of socks trying to create a promotional article for Karl Lillrud.   Draft:Karl Lillurd User:AfiraMirza/sandbox Noah   💬  18:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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Another sock — — #1012785888. —  csc -1 11:33, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

And another one:
 * , see the history of User:K. Lillurd/sandbox. --bonadea contributions talk 09:15, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

And...
 * (see user page)
 * (User:JoeKRuthe/sandbox)
 * (User:TahiraY.Awan/sandbox)
 * (User:Dr.maryamsajjad/sandbox)
 * (User:MaxwellJames/sandbox)
 * (User:Razasardar/sandbox)

There are several older accounts as well, such as the already-blocked and. See also Sockpuppet investigations/Isabella Mayor which mentions other accounts promoting the same person, as well as the ones reported here. It looks like Karl Lillrud has been paying people to create articles about him since 2019, judging by User talk:Umair444. --bonadea contributions talk 09:31, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * - worth a check for sleepers as these are non-stale The SandDoctor  Talk 16:40, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * - Mz7 (talk) 02:43, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a complicated case from a technical standpoint. For the reasons stated by Bonadea, it seems that we've stumbled across an effort by at least a couple different people intent on promoting this Karl Lillrud figure, potentially through undisclosed paid editing.
 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other (accounts not linked with checkuser were already mentioned somewhere above) (Group 1):
 * KarlLillrud123
 * Afirawaheed
 * AfiraMirza
 * Danialali12
 * MaxwellJames
 * Razasardar
 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other (Group 2) and to Group 1:
 * K. Lillurd
 * TahiraY.Awan
 * The following accounts are ✅ to each other (Group 3) and technically to Group 1 and Group 2:
 * Dr.maryamsajjad
 * Muhammed Adnan Sheikh is to Group 3 by geolocation. Nirdeshkumar524 is  to other accounts, and JoeKRuthe is.
 * Frankly, my main takeaway here is that I think behavior should be the guiding factor in this case, and it is clear enough from the interest in this obscure person that all of these accounts are related in some way. I do think multiple people are involved here, but per WP:MEAT, I'm inclined to just treat this all as one master focused on promoting Karl Lillrud. Afirawaheed and AfiraMirza were blocked previously as sockpuppets of . All accounts as socks of Isabella Mayor.  Please merge this case and the other cases below into Sockpuppet investigations/Isabella Mayor. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 03:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Moved, closing, Cabayi (talk) 09:06, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Frankly, my main takeaway here is that I think behavior should be the guiding factor in this case, and it is clear enough from the interest in this obscure person that all of these accounts are related in some way. I do think multiple people are involved here, but per WP:MEAT, I'm inclined to just treat this all as one master focused on promoting Karl Lillrud. Afirawaheed and AfiraMirza were blocked previously as sockpuppets of . All accounts as socks of Isabella Mayor.  Please merge this case and the other cases below into Sockpuppet investigations/Isabella Mayor. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 03:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Moved, closing, Cabayi (talk) 09:06, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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This is yet another sock creating a BLP of Karl Lillrud. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:48, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * . The account is too for a checkuser to be run and any data to be pulled.  ~Oshwah~  (talk)  (contribs)   02:09, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * per username WP:DUCK. Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 16:41, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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This account submitted a draft that has since been deleted, and then inquired at the Teahouse. The discussion at the Teahouse makes it clear that their interest is in Karl Lillrud, who is the subject of a multiplicity of drafts. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * . Same country but different geolocations and ranges. Same common user agents.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   02:12, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I blocked; it's obvious for a couple of reasons. Drmies (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * and I both edit conflicted on that block. Closing. The SandDoctor  Talk 16:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Shoot, User:TheSandDoctor, I hope I got the block first, and thus the check, since I have a kid that needs braces and every $5 helps. User name blocks (like User talk:WilliamH.Buttlicker) aren't worth it anymore; it's only $1.50 for the obvious ones. Drmies (talk) 16:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * you did indeed ! Twinkle told me that I would be overriding the block. I was personally going to go with spam/advertising only account, but a block's a block. Thanks for the mid-morning chuckle -- The SandDoctor  Talk 16:49, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * User:TheSandDoctor, I'm sitting on the couch. The backdoor is open, and a mockingbird is going crazy. The sun is shining. My boy is petting the Porter dog next to me and we're gonna go for a walk. I hope you have a good day--thanks for your work on all these SPIs; there's too many of them, unfortunately. Drmies (talk) 16:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That sounds so ideal haha. Have a nice walk and thank you! Yes, there are far too many SPIs.  -- The SandDoctor  Talk 17:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I have nothing to add to this SPI other than to note that it's a beautiful spring day here in New York, We've had a good collection of red winged blackbirds, cardinals, doves, blue jays, grackles, and sparrows for a while, and now the finches are starting to show up again. I'm going out for a bike ride to take advantage of the nice weather, confident that when I return, there will probably still be one or two SPIs I can work on. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:54, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Roy: I hope you have a fantastic ride! This thread has been a lot of fun and by far the most wholesome thing I’ve seen on this site in a while haha. Stay safe everyone! Starting to cool down here, but hit the low 20s (high 60s/low 70s) this past weekend....way, way, waaay above seasonal for this time of year. Made for some good walks over the weekend. — The SandDoctor Talk 15:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
These IPv6 addresses have created Draft:Karl Lillrud (Innovator), which is disambiguated to game the name. Please block the IP addresses. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:26, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * Draft G11'd, but I am curious whether some of the recent IPs at are part of a UPE op. I do wish there was a way to see deleted contributions for a range. Pinging  for thoughts. DatGuyTalkContribs 07:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * There is a way to see deleted contributions for a range by querying the database. I'll get to this later today. MarioGom (talk) 07:55, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * From that range, I can only see Draft:Karl Lillrud (Innovator). On close ranges there's Draft:Hannah Smith (character) and Draft:Pulte Family Charitable Foundation, but I have no idea if these have any relation. MarioGom (talk) 17:50, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these IPs has edited recently. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 18:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC)