Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JABarker97/Archive

31 December 2014

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Editing and creating the same sort of pages, characters linked to soap operas mainly Neighbours and EastEnders.

JABarker created the Tina Carter article on Wikipedia, in my opinion it's been created before it should have been as the character isn't really notable yet as the character has only been there a year and not had many of her own storylines. When she created it, it had 11 references:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tina_Carter&diff=prev&oldid=636079185

They've moved it from a list article to a mainspace article.

JA Barker also created a page for this Neighbours family, which a few editors felt not notable enough so it has now been deleted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Canning+family&timestamp=20141205231924

An editor expressed a concern to me about the articles JA Barker was creating so I had a word with the editor and gave them a few helpful pointers about creating articles. They said that they would "go easy on the editing".

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JABarker97&diff=next&oldid=639886590

Then Dhayes103 has come along a few days later, created an article for another not yet notable EastEnders character oddly enough from the same family as Tina Carter. They've taken it out of a list article, put it into mainspace and they've given it 11 references. The character has also been on screen around a year, again just like Tina.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Nancy+Carter+%28EastEnders%29&timestamp=20141231180330&diff=prev

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_EastEnders_characters_(2014)&diff=prev&oldid=640391199

And they've done the same to a Neighbours article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paige_Smith&diff=prev&oldid=640410741

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Neighbours_characters_(2014)&diff=prev&oldid=640410874

Finally, IP tonight has come along and made this edit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paige_Smith&diff=prev&oldid=640430565

Then there's the usernames which are similar.

If I was basing this just purely on behavioural evidence then I would block as a sock. However, I'm requesting CheckUser to clear this up as JABarker97 has no reason to sock as they are not blocked so I want to get it confirmed if these two accounts are related. 5 albert square (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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. I'm not as persuaded by the evidence as. For example, I don't see any significant similarity in the two user names. Also, I don't quite get why the 11 refs for each of the accounts is all that relevant unless they were copied and pasted by the new account's list from the old account. The refs are not identical. Is the number 11 magical? :-) Nonetheless, I think there's enough evidence of many other similarities that 5 albert square highlights to warrant a CU.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:24, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * by the usernames, I simply meant that they're the same kind of format. As in an initial, what appears to be a surname and then numbers.  I appreciate that's not enough in itself though.  It's more the behavioural evidence that made me think that they're related--5 albert square (talk) 20:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I've endorsed the CU so it's largely academic, but some similarities may not be enough by themselves but they are still somewhat persuasive. This particular similarity is of virtually no value. Many users pick initials and names, and many users have numbers at the end. Here, if you're going to really analyze this to death, the master has two initials and the supposed last name capitalized, whereas the the puppet has one initial and the supposed last name uncapitalized. When I look at user name similarities as evidence, they are generally more obvious.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Checkuser comments: It is these two accounts are socks from a technical perspective. Risker (talk) 03:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm closing this with no action. However,, there's nothing that precludes you from taking whatever administrative action you believe is warranted.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

05 March 2015

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Editing the same sort of articles, ie mainly soap opera ones. moving articles off redirect and putting them into mainspace before they are ready.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kennedy_family_(Neighbours)&diff=next&oldid=638692810

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Canning+family&timestamp=20141205231924

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_EastEnders_characters_(1998)&diff=prev&oldid=639070131

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_EastEnders_characters_(2014)&diff=prev&oldid=650032479

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Babe_Smith&diff=prev&oldid=650031606

I have also noticed this as TheDayIsMyEnemy's first edit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ska&diff=prev&oldid=647479171

In the edit summary, they are quoting Wikipedia rules which I wouldn't necessarily expect a new user to know. I am requesting CheckUser for this reason and also to see if the two accounts are related. 5 albert square (talk) 20:34, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * - Their edits do not overlap (JABarker97 stopped editing in December, TheDayIsMyEnemy started in February). Their edits are not particularly disruptive. They edited only one common article. Even if they are the same person, this is not sockpuppetry.  Vanjagenije   (talk)  01:26, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * No comment after 8 days. Closing the case.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:09, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

30 May 2015

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Editing same sort of articles - mainly ones related to EastEnders and Neighbours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Brennan_(Neighbours)&diff=prev&oldid=623696989

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Brennan_(Neighbours)&diff=prev&oldid=664564749

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_EastEnders_characters_(2015)&diff=prev&oldid=664455502

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_EastEnders_characters_(2014)&diff=prev&oldid=639070514

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Neighbours_characters_(2015)&diff=prev&oldid=664564335

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Neighbours_characters_(2007)&diff=prev&oldid=638694427

I'm not 100% certain that they are related, a couple of the edits are similar but not enough for it to quack. I'm therefore requesting CheckUser to see if it's technically possible that they're related. If they are related, I suspect that the QueenVic account has been created to distort consensus on these articles. 5 albert square (talk) 16:37, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

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I've declined the CU as I see no non-stale accounts to compare against. If you know of one ... --Bbb23 (talk) 17:13, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Just editing same articles - that's not very strong evidence. Many people have similar interest, that does not mean they are sockpuppets. Is there any stronger evidence?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:35, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Other than the similar edits I posted above, no as the account has not edited in 2 days.--5 albert square (talk) 22:43, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Evidence is weak. Closing the case with no action taken.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:03, 31 May 2015 (UTC)