Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JRM2018/Archive

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AriaTess was created 3 days after and  were blocked. They recreated Max Muay Thai, which was repeatedly created by MMA Kid, as MAX Muay Thai; the articles aren't identical from what I can see, but note, e.g., the same bizarre citation to a garbled email address. Moved Reza Goodary, which was extensively edited by MMA Kid, to mainspace. Various other unlikely overlaps. Userpage style is similar to MMA Kid's, including some of the same obscure userboxes. Spicy (talk) 10:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * - please compare to MMA Kid, who is not stale. The behavioural evidence is enough to warrant a block on its own, but I think it will be helpful to establish a CU trail on enwiki as this seems likely to continue and it's an xwiki problem (MMA Kid is indeffed here, on Commons, and on fawiki). Thanks, Spicy (talk) 10:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 15:07, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * AriaTess to MMA Kid.   -- RoySmith (talk) 15:32, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Blablubbs blocked and tagged (thanks :) ). I've requested locks for the three accounts. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 20:13, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

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Misuse of spare account. Creating custom pages in all Wikipedia languages. User accounts:

All accounts in different wikis are editing this page.Also in wikidata,wikiquote and commons.--Persia ☘ 08:07, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Case format fixed. --Blablubbs (talk) 21:57, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Huyanch doesn't exist on enwiki. I'm not seeing enough enwiki behavioral evidence to block Soldierirani or SarbazeMahd; if might be more useful to ask for a global lock at WP:SRG.  The other accounts are already blocked.  I blocked the one IP which appears to be active. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:49, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

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MMA Kid created Reza Goodary. After MMA Kid was blocked, AriaTess showed up to move the article from draft to mainspace and nominate it for GAN. After AriaTess was blocked, an unrelated IP left a comment on the article talk page which was removed by an IP in one of the associated ranges listed above by Persia. Persia then left a comment on the talk page which identified all the known socks. Said comment has been reverted by IPs in the ranges listed above (1, 2) as well as twice by John MC70 (1, 2), while also nominating the article for GAN on their second removal. Quack quack. – 2 . O . Boxing  12:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Looking at the interaction tool you'll also see that John is moving drafts created by MMA Kid to mainspace, just like AriaTess. Those quacks just got a bit louder. – 2 . O . Boxing  13:01, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

This one is a bit of a stretch, but seeing as this editor uses socks to edit their own drafts, might be worth taking a look at. – 2 . O . Boxing  15:22, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * Comment: I'd long had strong suspicions but held off reporting as it was unclear that their edits were detrimental to Wikipedia (despite the sockpuppetry). Anyway,.. --Paul_012 (talk) 19:39, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * - the behavioural evidence is convincing; please indef John MC70. (I'll also note that they're already blocked on fawiki as Reserve account based on duck test, per Google Translate). I don't think there's enough evidence to block or check JM2602S at this time. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 01:07, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged John MC70. My AGF meter on this one was more sensitive than yours, so I ran a check on JM2602S, who turned out to be, or maybe even ❌.  But, still, if they're not JRM's sock, they've got to be somebody's. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * . Thanks, Spicy (talk) 17:34, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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Turning up to edit immediately after John MC70 was blocked. Identical article creation patterns seen at World Muay Thai Organization include refbombing with irrelevant passing mentions in foreign language news. Paul_012 (talk) 19:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * It's suspicious that PhanKS1505 would recreate this article just one day after it was G5'd. There's also a fair amount of overlap with previous accounts . However, the two versions of the article aren't very similar, the overlap could be explained by a shared interest in Muay Thai, and this account is fairly old. Therefore, - please compare to  for confirmation. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 20:22, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * - My initial take on this from CU data is ❌. Martial arts is a popular topic, so the extensive editing overlap isn't enough to convince me to go against what CU tells me. But, I'm willing to take another look if you can supply some more specific diffs which prove socking. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:35, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * - I'll leave this open in case has more evidence to add, but FWIW, my thought was that they're likely different people but that there's enough suspicion to endorse a CU. I suspect the unrelated result is correct. Spicy (talk) 20:39, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It was a bit hard to recall since it's been G5ed, but the exact same pattern of irrelevant refbombing that I mentioned was found in World Siam Stadium. That's all I can provide. (PS Spicy the ping didn't work because you also modified an existing paragraph in the same edit.) --Paul_012 (talk) 23:13, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I looked at World Siam Stadium and compared it to a sampling of article created by PhanKS1505.  I'm not seeing enough similarity to conclude they must be socks, so I'm going to close this. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:12, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

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Don't know if this is being overly doubtful, but a new user created after John MC70 was blocked, creating new articles about Muay Thai competition programmes including Fairtex Fight Promotion, then adding mentions to Channel 7 (Thailand) and Sports broadcasting contracts in Thailand, just like John MC70 did with Channel 7 Boxing Stadium (diff, diff), is a bit suspicious to me. Paul_012 (talk) 05:16, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * Mir Alexander is very likely to John MC70; given the timings and editing interests, I'm blocking, tagging and requesting lock. Closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  09:47, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * ( originally filed under this user)

Pro forma filing, see Special:PermaLink/1080581534. Courtesy ping for @NinjaRobotPirate & @Zippybonzo. F ASTILY  22:59, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

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The other accounts connected to JRM2018 have similar edit habits to this account - are the account IP’s within the same range as this one and can they be geolocated to the same rough place or not? Also - the JRM sock accounts ability to edit rather quickly does seem to connect them to a degree. Zippybonzo &#124; talk 06:24, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * You can check my name on Google, Facebook, Instagram and other social media. I'm a real person who can easily confirm this with prove identity card. I'm currently using the university's public device, which may be open to more than 1,200 students. Please check carefully so that the judgment isn't wrong.
 * In fact, no bot was used. I linked them by copying and pasting  the following text into articles. So I opened all the articles in the Google Chrome tabs and then quickly linked them through the search the web on Chrome (Ctrl+F).  Sincerely Ply.T (talk) 06:18, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * I changed the case status to checked per NinjaRobotPirate's comments at the quick CU request (Ply.T tried to log in as Sockpuppet investigations/Aryankhodakarami before creating this account. Sockpuppet investigations/JRM2018 is another possibility based on a scan of the IP range and comparing topics edited (martial artists). There's a Nate Speed sock on the same IP range, though, so it's obviously being used for a VPN).IMO, Ply.T looks like an obvious sock of JRM2018. They share a strong interest in martial arts (obvious from contribs and a tendency to create elaborate userpages  - in particular, note the claims of being a sports journalist and speaking Thai. I have no idea why they would be trying to log in as Aryankhodakarami, but those accounts (which were incompetently spamming about some Iranian rapper) don't look behaviourally related to JRM2018. I'll leave this open for second opinions but I think the case should be moved and Ply.T should be blocked as a sock of JRM2018. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 23:50, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Moved,, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 09:28, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Creating talk pages with the exact same peculiar templates as John MC70. Multiple edits at Siam Cup BJJ, an article edited only by previous socks. Paul_012 (talk) 13:00, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * This is not a fair judgment and it is in fact a slander. I write articles well, I use my intelligence and of course I follow the example of similar articles. Does this concern you? Does it bother you that a foreigner who has lived in your country for many years and carefully edits or compiles related articles? Journal Ring (talk) 08:10, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I linked the article I wrote to Siam Cup BJJ. There are hundreds of names in Siam Cup BJJ's article! I also used template on other similar pages. That's what anyone who walks into Wikipedia does first. The reasons you gave are irrational. Journal Ring (talk) 08:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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User:223.204.216.250 created Smilla Sundell, User:223.204.249.97 asked Khonda to move the draft to mainspace, then Journal Ring thanked Khonda for moving the article. – 2 . O . Boxing  11:35, 21 May 2022 (UTC)


 * May I know what is your problem with my edits? Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia, and anyone can contribute to its development. According to Wikipedia policy, you do not have the right to delete my request from your talk page. Your performance is not worthy of a Wikipedia user. Journal Ring (talk) 08:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

User has been CU blocked on Commons as a sockpuppet of JRM2018. I'm assuming the CU tools on Commons are the same as here? – 2 . O . Boxing  09:17, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, CU tools are the same on the Commons, where this is indeed confirmed. I've added Commons data to |the existing entry here.
 * Note also, for example, that (four days old and having never interacted with anyone on the Commons, and thereby having no basis to know any particular user) managed to find Yann (a Commons admin) here on en.wiki to bemoan their Commons block.  Yann just happens to be exactly the same admin that known sock MMA Kid found on en.wiki to bemoan their Commons block.  What serendipity! Other behaviour diffs are numerous and can be provided if needed, but I've omitted them for the moment per BEANS.  Эlcobbola  talk 14:21, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Finding Common or Wikipedia admins is not a difficult task. It is possible only with a Google search. I chose Yann based on my date so that I can resolve my complaint about the wrong decision of an admin under me. I wrote articles on Wikipedia that I photographed in stadiums. It's normal to want to upload photos of them. Now, on what grounds and criteria my account was blocked, the answer is yours! I still do not know the cause. I write well on Wikipedia. I am very careful in writing articles and I am content with similar articles and I put all my efforts in terms of honesty and evolution. "Translated by Google Translate" Journal Ring (talk) 08:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * , though I'm afraid that is all I have time for right now. --Blablubbs (talk) 13:36, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Tagged account, requested lock. Not sure CU is necessary this time since it was just run on Commons. The IP range is pretty wide and there is not much activity from the sockmaster recently, no action with the IPs for now. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 09:36, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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Confirmed on Commons (data added here), but Stewards are backlogged and have still not globally blocked after several days. Accordingly, requesting here to facilitate local block and G5 deletions, and for sleepers and/or possibility of range block.


 * As previously, "new" user serendipitously finds Common admins to bemoan their Commons block here on en.wiki: MMAKid ; Journal Ring ; Photo Eminency
 * Same irrelevant appeal on my en.wiki talk page: "I am professional photographer" (MMAkid; Photo Eminency)
 * Same topic interests, edit overlap, e.g.:
 * Sudsakorn Sor Klinmee - MMAKid; Photo Eminency;
 * List of current ONE fighters - John MC70; Photo Eminency;
 * List of ONE Championship champions - AriaTess Photo Eminency; etc.
 * Same posting to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Martial arts/Kickboxing task force for assistance regarding their declined drafts (e.g., MMA Kid; Photo Eminency) Эlcobbola  talk 15:35, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

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 * Old accounts are stale, but based on historic data I'd call this very due to the amount of overlap on multiple IP ranges. Blocking, will sprinkle some G5 dust.  Girth Summit  (blether)  18:23, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Pro-forma, blocked based on obvious behaviour as well as CU data (but not making this a CU block). Spicy (talk) 18:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * ,, closing. Spicy (talk) 18:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
This is not so much a request for an investigation but just recording that Claggy was glocked at Meta as a sockpuppet of JRM2018. Liz Read! Talk! 03:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

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 * for the record. Spicy (talk) 08:42, 4 June 2024 (UTC)