Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jagello/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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All three editors focus on pro-Korean articles, and anti-Japan articles. From using the editor interact utility, it is clear that they overlap on many articles. Sometimes two of the editors overlap, sometimes all three. [] Korean Sentry and Jagello are both sleeper accounts. They lay dormant for over a year, and become active when they are needed to jump into a controversial debate.

Spacecowboy420 (talk) 10:44, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Consoleman is.
 * - More diffs would be appreciated. The other two haven't overlapped on any articles in the last year. The editor interaction utility is useful, but I wouldn't think a CU would run a check based solely on that. The timing of the edits historically is interesting and might be part of the grounds for a CheckUser. Could you supply more diffs showing a somewhat stronger base to request CU on? (Keep in mind that there are a lot of Koreans, and a lot of them may have an anti-Japan sentiment.) Thanks, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 15:43, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * No response in 11 days. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  07:12, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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KoreanSentry and Consoleman are WP:DUCK: KoreanSentry admits on his user page to being the operator of an off-wiki message board that shares his name; "Consoleman" is the on-site user name of the administrator of said forum, and the Consoleman Wikipedia account signed their comments "KoreanSentry". The two are at the very least meatpuppets of each other, but it seems much more likely that they are the same person, and both accounts were used here to get around 3RR and cast a double-vote in an RM. The Koryosaram account slept for four years before suddenly re-emerging and edit-warring on the Korean influence on Japanese culture article, which it had edited before 2014 (when the article was AFDed and then largely blanked), but neither Jagello nor KoreanSentry had. The content Koryosaram re-added shows a striking similarity to new content that had been added and removed during Koryosaram's absence. The account was clearly monitoring the page in the four years it was gone, but it seems unlikely that the account's operator kept silent. In 2014/2015, Jagello and KoreanSentry both suddenly appeared and started restoring content to that article, but it's really suspicious that they even knew about the article, having never edited it before. Also, back in 2016 Jagello made an out-of-nowhere sockpuppet accusation at me and another user, which honestly looks like more WP:DUCK/WP:KETTLE behaviour, as no one who didn't have sockpuppetry on the mind would even think of that. Requesting CU since KoreanSentry and Koryosaram are both no longer stale, and honestly it seems like a near-certainty that there are more socks than just these. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 20:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * I've lost access to Consoleman account after it must have been hacked or hijacked, I've stopped using that account 9 years ago I think 2008 or 2009 can't even remember and since I have no choice, I've created account under KoreanSentry. Did I edited articles using two or more accounts? I do not think so and I don't even recall Koryosaram, this user isn't mine. Looking at history of Consoleman - there's no action since 2009. KoreanSentry forum was created back in 2008 so I've created this account under this name. I've never trolled in Wikipedia like these Chinese and Japanese trollish accounts who always edits Korean related articles based on their biased cherry picked sources and most sources. Btw why so much focus on me when I don't even check into Wikipedia often? This was first time that I've logged in for this year. Last year I was hardly in action, so am I trolled at Wiki? Look at Hijiri88, a fake Japanese account user. I suggest investigate this user account as he's prolific user in Wiki space particularly Korean related articles that he or she doesn't even shared blood or cultural background ties with Korea. Can we trust this user Hijiri88?You guys know this user is trolling. If I have all that time in the world, I would actually do something for improving lifestyle rather than being Keyboard behind anonymity of Internet world. Grow up and get a life Bro. KSentry(talk) 10:28, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You realize that even if you are not socking, virtually every sentence of the above after I've never trolled is a violation of WP:NPA and itself blockworthy, right? Same goes for this (pinging Phoenix7777). If you don't retract these comments you'll probably be indef-blocked shortly regardless of whether you have been socking. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 10:52, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Jesus, Phoenix: I never knew how experienced you were in these matters. ご苦労様！ Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 11:52, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't believe I missed this until just now. KoreanSentry's above recounting of events -- that KoreanSentry is a successor to the original Consoleman account to which he lost access because of hacking or hijacking -- clearly doesn't hold up under scrutiny: the KoreanSentry account was active as early as October 2008 while Consoleman continued to edit until January 2009 (at which time the above double-!vote took place). KoreanSentry has now all but admitted to engaging in disruptive sockpuppetry, at least in the past (which for him at least under this account, is less than 500 edits), and still has not explained how he even knew about the "Korean influence" article. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 03:02, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - the only two accounts that could be checked are KoreanSentry and Koryosaram, and I don't see any convincing reason for investigating these two users. The previous report did not result in a finding, and there's really just nothing to go on here. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:57, 12 February 2018 (UTC)