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Jamaas9 stated that he lives in the US. IP 97.68.248.164 also geolocates to the US and has the same editorial pattern. Jamaas9 was indeffed per WP:NOTHERE on 1 September 2018, and HistoryoftheAryans became active no less than 24 days later, and started editing the exact same articles that Jamaas9 was obsessed about with the very same POV. There's some striking resemblance in editorial conduct between Jamaas9, HistoryoftheAryans and the IP in question;

Trying to lump Tajiks/Afghanistan with Iran at all cost;


 * IP 97.68.248.164: "There should also be an inclusion that there is a vast overlap between Tajik and Persian studies/history. Tajiks would traditionally be included within Persian studies (as their ancestors like Rudaki Ibn Sina, and Rumi) are an integral part of the development of Persian culture/ identity."
 * IP 97.68.248.164: "added afghanistan because western portion of present-day afghanistan was included within the safavid territory, influence on tajik culture (...)"
 * Jamaas9: "Added Afghanistan as it is cultural drink of many native ethnic groups including their historical ethnic Persians (modern Tajiks/Parsibans)"
 * HistoryoftheAryans: "The issue is that the word "Tajik" really means just "Iranian" (...)"

Bothered about the underrepresentation of Tajiks in Uzbekistan;
 * IP 97.68.248.164: "Why is Uzbekistan consistently removed. This is the work of propagandists or intelligence officals or someone who is wholly biased. Please do not remove what constitutes possibly many Persian speakers"
 * Jamaas9: "Hello, is there any valid reason that Uzbekistan is not mentioned in regards to Tajiks/Eastern Persians outside of present-day Iran? There is anywhere from 1.5-12M (more than Tajikistan) Tajiks in Uzbekistan, so it needs to be added. Furthermore, it has been noted by reliable western scholars that Tajik's are culturally repressed in Uzbekistan,"

Using "Central Asia/Caucasus" analogies in order to make it more attractive for people to warrant his pro-Tajik POV;
 * HistoryoftheAryans: "Would the Afghan Jewish population be considered a related group like the Bukharan Jews, a completely separate group (scholarly work does not support this), or just part of the Persian Jewish population? Regardless, shouldn't there be an inclusion given historical relationship like the other Caucasus/Central Asian Jews? "
 * Jamaas9:  "(...) also think that it might be useful and helpful for readers to get a sense of which famous Persians were from outside of present-day Iran (al-Khwārizmī, Avicenna, Rumi) -- what does everyone think about adding some famous historical Eastern/Central Asian Persians and Caucasian Persian to the lede?"

Promoting Afghan Hindus/Sikhs;
 * HistoryoftheAryans: "readded Hindu and Sikh religious population with cited. Please do not remove this again, there are Afghan Hindu/Sikh Temples in the NYC area for decades."
 * Jamaas9: "At minimum there is still a few Pashtun tribes that still practice Hinduism (...)"

"Tajiks/Persians" analogies;
 * HistoryoftheAryans: "clarified tajik/persian relationship for laymen readers (...)"
 * Jamaas9: "(...) Tajik/Persian were synonyms (...)"

Speaking about "Tajik oppression";
 * Jamaas9: "Legal issues re: Tajiks oppression on the web"
 * Jamaas9: "Tajiks have experienced unspeakable atrocities and your insensitivity is quite eye opening Douglas Weller"
 * IP 97.68.248.164: "Also, the Taliban (which mainly comprised of ethnic Pashtuns) did execute ethnic cleansing to mainly Hazaras and some Tajiks during their rule in the 90s."

"Historical Persian figures";
 * Jamaas9: "(...) there is no way to say that all these famous historical Persians originated from the population that lives in present-day Iran"
 * HistoryoftheAryans: "(...) asking about historical Persian figures."

Using the word "formatting" in edit summaries;
 * HistoryoftheAryans: "formatting"
 * Jamaas9: "Formatting and switched (...)"

Stating that he has done "research";
 * Jamaas9: "From my research (...)"
 * IP 97.68.248.164: "From my research (...)"
 * HistoryoftheAryans: "(...) researching newer sources for to add an updated break down (...)"

I requested CU due to the small time intervals and the overal evidence. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:32, 13 December 2018 (UTC)


 * HistoryoftheAryans just admitted to being Jamaas9 and got indeffed by User:Doug Weller.-- - LouisAragon (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' HistoryoftheAryans next edit and following edits are to Tajiks. Clearly not a coincidence. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:35, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Jamaas9: on Dari language changes 50% to "eighty percent"
 * HistoryoftheAryans: on Dari language changes 50% to 80%. HistoryoftheAryans, 3rd edit!
 * , please block the sock indefinitely. – User 45  65  41  18:30, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
The alleged master is. CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:11, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't realise there was an SPI. Could a clerk please do the tagging now that I've blocked the sock. Doug Weller  talk 18:56, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Socks now tagged, closing. Sro23 (talk) 05:36, 23 January 2019 (UTC)