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I am starting this over again, as I let myself get overwhelmed on the other attempt to request an investigation. You will note that User:Urbanuntil was blocked many years ago as a sockpuppet of User:Waldemar15. Editors believed it would be too hard to show that Sinkplil maybe a sock of Waldermar15, since that user was blocked so many years ago, so, I'm starting a bit fresh here. You will also notice that Janitor102 was also previously blocked. I believe that User:Janitor102 and User:Waldermar15 are related, but, that's up to you to sort out if you wish to go the extra mile.

Please bear with me and assume good faith.


 * All of these accounts have a rich history of editing Mexican-related articles. For example, Janitor, Picklespitlizyr ("Pickle" for short) and Sinkplil have all extensively edited about Mexico City as noted in this in the Editor Interaction Analyser report. Heck, even our old friend User:Waldemar15 edited the Mexico City article. Other examples of articles all of these editors have in Common include Puebla_(city), Cancun and others.


 * I came into contact with these accounts when I was working on Commons and received a message on my talk page from Urbanuntil about a caption I had written on the Immigration policy of Donald Trump article. You can see their comment on my Commons talk page here. The user asked how I knew they were Mexican immigrants. I thought that was random, so I checked out my watchlist and noticed that Sinkplil had removed an image and left a rather snarky edit rationale in doing so, visible here. I then introduced a rather poorly executed request for a sock investigation and Sink proceeded to leave a comment on the original investigation page here. They also moved to Commons and left a comment on my talk page here. Seems a little coincidential that Urbanuntil and Sink were both asking me about the caption in the Trump article, right?

Now, let's take a look at how Sink and these other editors contribute content.


 * Sink and Pickle all make similar edit summaries, examples:
 * Pickle: "what a bias!!!"
 * Sink: "Latinoe, desista de su proceder!!!"


 * Sink and Pickle often edit image details, examples:
 * Torreón
 * Pickle's changes
 * Sink's changes
 * Janitor: ???


 * All three tend to move pages around based on what they believe is the most appropriate title or name of the subject
 * Janitor moves Museum of Mexico City
 * Sink moves George Floyd Justice in Policing Act
 * Pickle moves Mexico City administrative buildings


 * Clear concern for bias edits:
 * Janitor: "biased and truly unintelligibly caption"
 * Pickle: "bunch of biased users. please, stop bias article"
 * Sink: "removing images by ""knwoer user "Black Lives Matter" "User:Missvain")"

I'm sure there is more, but, I really don't want to spend more time dealing with this than I have already. Note, Sink was blocked for harassing me in retaliation for my original request for investigation. Thanks everyone. Missvain (talk) 04:22, 11 August 2020 (UTC) Missvain (talk) 04:22, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:17, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * - Please, compare Sinkplil to Picklespitlizyr.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  09:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sinkplil is ✅ to the Janitor102 socks, Picklespitlizyr and Vesppuccino. is technically .  Sinkplil. For consideration, Waldemar15's 2013-2015 location is in a neighboring (non-US) state to these socks who are editing approximately 380 miles from the original location.
 * Thank you and thanks for the update. I was clearly having a bad case of "down the possible sock rabbit hole" last night! Missvain (talk) 15:38, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Not enough behavioral evidence to connect A7..., so I'm going to leave them be for now. Everyone is already, closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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This is concerning the account A7572327. On 5/31/20, the account was created and it sat dormant until making 10-11 small edits. After reviewing these edit, I found them to be non-constructive or non-sense. I reverted Sinkplil's edits after they were blocked, which is allowed under WP:BP, because the block was in effect on the puppetmaster's account when these edits were made. Just days after that block of Sinkplil, the user A7572327 reinstated Sinkplil's edits over multiple Mexico related articles. They left me a talk page message alleging xenophobia/racism Special:Diff/972878200 here. It appears to be a calculated method of letting an account rest over 30 days, then making 10 non-sense or superficial edits to get the auto-confirmed status in order to proceed with pushing their perspectives. The pattern of edits suggest it's an agenda pushing sock account. Graywalls (talk) 09:39, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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Graywalls, you need to remove from your list of "Suspected sockpuppets". That account had already been confirmed and blocked as a sockpuppet of Janitor102 three days before you filed this SPI. Therefore your list of "Suspected sockpuppets" should only include. You can mention and compare Sinkplil (as a previously confirmed sockpuppet) in your evidence, but remove them from the "Suspected" list. Also, you need to supply WP:DIFFs as evidence, as noted in the instructions for filing SPIs. Softlavender (talk) 13:35, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


 * While extremely obvious with the explanation already given... here:


 * 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Graywalls&diff=prev&oldid=972878200
 * 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mexico_City&diff=prev&oldid=972878207
 * 3) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Puebla_(city)&diff=prev&oldid=972878148
 * 4) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canc%C3%BAn&diff=prev&oldid=972878141
 * 5) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Morelia&diff=prev&oldid=972878197
 * Graywalls (talk) 14:06, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

At the pages saying "Tag: Manual revert" A7 is reverting content that was previously added by Waldemar socks. I suggest to check user it as this account was created in May and evaded a recent CU. © Tb hotch ™ (en-3). 17:55, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comments by Tbhotch from Sockpuppet investigations/Waldemar15.


 * Also compare harassment of 1 with 2.
 * On a side note, can the reports of Janitor and Waldermar be merged? They are the same person and with Sockpuppet investigations/Urbanuntil 1, Waldemar et al. will now have 3 different SPIs for the same person. © Tb hotch ™ (en-3). 18:15, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  19:17, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * him and using an open proxy,.
 * GeneralNotability (talk) 01:00, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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I'm on my cellphone so I'll give my evidence below © Tb hotch ™ 05:05, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Confirmed sock Sinkpill makes this edit, Fisher reverts it and Malm restored it. Suggesting check user just in case there are sleepers. © Tb hotch ™ 05:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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— Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:03, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Close as nothing left to do here. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:27, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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At Museo Soumaya I reverted User:Picklespitlizyr + Vesppuccino edits here. BP restored them here. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 06:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC) At Template:National Autonomous University of Mexico same vandalism as Picklespitlizyr. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 16:03, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * . Close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:57, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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All, Chihuahua City (A with B, Quinta Gameros, Church of Santa Prisca de Taxco (C, Architecture of Mexico and Tlaxcala City have been edited by Janitor sockpuppets, but this revert of me reverting a confirmed sockpuppet confirms they are the same person. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 06:24, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Personal attacks based on geographical region: [A with B, C or D. [[WP:CC-BY-SA|(CC)]] Tb hotch ™ 07:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * For the record I'm creating a LTA page. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 07:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Note that Doug Weller reverted a sockpuppet of JkMastru here, and Janitor reverted Doug here. This SPI should be merged to Sockpuppet investigations/JkMastru. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 06:28, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅, blocked tagged (I came here through WP:AIV and thus am not monitoring this case). Materialscientist (talk) 08:30, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:08, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Closing as nothing further to do here. Account is locked. The SandDoctor  Talk 15:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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The edit interaction pattern between Janitor102, Picklespitlizyr & Eightbenny shows overlaps in a number of articles despite low-edit history. Certainly not enough evidence. But the thing is the general disruptive behaviour filing retaliatory & nonsensical ANI reports by Eightbenny & the sock "Picklespitlizyr". Process: "I undid some edit somewhere"-"editor takes me to ANI because they claim that I am Spanish?:
 * Picklespitlizyr: diff: "User from Spain is changing header with a strange text]; is likely to a "nicely situation" descriptive title header"
 * Eightbenny diff: "User says that "It is the generic one not presuming gender" in "King of Spain" infobox label and erase some image climate of Spain and by some reason puts this text: "Undid revision 1010126176 by Eightbenny (talk) Discuss in the talk page.". User is likely from Spain. Please, revert that edits" Asqueladd (talk) 00:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

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As proven at Long-term abuse/Urbanuntil, Janitor102 et at. love to make ad hominem comments based on geographical areas:. Also note that Mexican Spanish is protected against Janitor102. (CC) Tb hotch <big style="color: #555555;">™ 00:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * - Borderline for me; both Eightbenny and the past Janitor socks appear to be people of Mexican origin with English issues and a thing for accusing people of being "Spanish" but I'm not convinced enough to block on behavior at this point. All known socks are stale, but is there anything in the CU log? GeneralNotability (talk) 19:23, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * As you noted, past socks are stale, but I ran a check and comparing to CU logs, Eightbenny is on a range that was previously frequented by Janitor102, and we don't get a whole lot of editors on enwiki from that range either. Under these circumstances, it's hard to give a template CU signal, but if I had to I would say . Mz7 (talk) 09:13, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mz7. That's enough for me, . GeneralNotability (talk) 16:08, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

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Removing speedy deletion templates on categories created by Eightbenny, see Category:Persecution of LGBT people in Mexico and Category:Discrimination against LGBT people in Mexico Pahunkat (talk) 19:08, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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 * —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 19:23, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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OK, this is perhaps the most CSI-esque thing I'd ever say here but I think that these accounts are those of Janitor, aka Urbanuntil. Maybe they are too old for CU, but behavioral evidence is all I need and I'm sorry I can't keep this consice.

Let's start with Pedro. Like Urbanuntil/Janitor, the user is interested in Mexican-related topics. In fact, several of the pages that Pedro modified were already modified by Urban and their accounts.


 * For example: in Phillippines, Picklespitlizyr edit-wars an image. Pedro edit-wars an image.
 * Picklespitlizyr insults on geography, Pedro insults on geography.
 * For other pages edited by them refer to.

But now, let's go with. Janiclett caught my attention here, "21th". Ok, that was weird, everyone makes mistakes, but Janiclett had been correcting other grammar mistakes everywhere, so that makes no sense. But then I remember Janitor and went to their edit's history and started seeing Mexican related pages, including those modified by the confirmed socks, including those edits by Pedro.

But what completely left me without doubts that Janiclett is at the very least Pedro is not found here. It is found at es.wiki. On the history of Rafael Ximeno y Planes, Eduardo reverts Pedro, Eduardo is then inexplicably reverted by the newly created Janiclett.

As I was writing this SPI, Janiclett inadvertently left this (21st and 21th) are the same thing. Urbanuntil gets offended when corrected

And lastly, as I was writing this, Janiclett went crazy and started reverting my edits on Mexican-related topics, just like another sockpuppet.

Requesting a CU because there might exist sleepers. I highly recommend a global block as well. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 19:25, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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These "similarities" are a joke. Please, I request a speedly closing of this "report" because this user is making reports by retaliation because I a less-aggresive behavior than this only purpose account, i.e., this guy quietly is studyng me by too time and uploaded the Very first "card"board" statue?, in Wikipedia because politics from Mexico.. --Janiclett (talk) 19:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Then feel free to explain this. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 19:39, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ... Umm... impressive "evidences", homie?. That's so old, I complete forgot that day, sorry. --Janiclett (talk) 19:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Now this guy is making offtopic by |making one million of another "sockpuppet" claims. Lol. --Janiclett (talk) 19:52, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * So you won't deny being a sockpuppet of Pedro, who is blocked from editing here. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 20:19, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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 * I was going to wait for the result of the SPI, but Special:Diff/1050268565 crossed the line to harassment, and there is no reason to expect this to stop without a block. Checking for sleepers sounds good to me. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:30, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:03, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * is . is ✅ to . Based on the CU log these accounts are  to  to . Leaving tagging up to a clerk or admin who is familiar with this case. . Dreamy <i style="color:#d00">Jazz</i> talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:13, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If it's worth it, I found an insult on nationality as well. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 21:49, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I tagged Janiclett with dual tag. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:41, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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Special:Contributions/187.171.44.114 perfectly matches Long-term_abuse/Urbanuntil. Zayul (talk) 02:00, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

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Urbanuntil is stayed. xd --187.171.44.114 (talk) 02:02, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't known "perfectly matches" lexicon phrase. --187.171.44.114 (talk) 02:10, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It means "is very similar" or "same". Zayul (talk) 02:12, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
 * But you just stats "Special:Contributions/187.171.44.114 perfectly matches Long-term_abuse/Urbanuntil." you mentioned another thing? --187.171.44.114 (talk) 02:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

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IP blocked. Nothing more to do here except clerk business. -- zzuuzz (talk) 03:15, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

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Latest known user: User:Janiclett. At Wikimedia Commons Jalapestra orders a barely active non-admin user to "take care of" me and my contributions. This is the third time the user ordered MM to perform admin actions on me. A global block is required and a CU is needed as Urbanuntil tends to create multiple sockpuppets. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 00:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This online dictatorship would be sent to Russia, is the cancer of Internet and misinformation and the guilty is of liberal crybabies like these admins that obeys this obvious permaban-pardoned illegal. Jalapestra (talk) 23:23, 28 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Harassment/Wikihounding and saying that things are "biased" (CC)  Tb hotch ™ 13:24, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Selected versions downgrade of Mexican articles or "related" made by "Tbhotch" by "block evasion"/"Long-terms abuses":, , obvious bias in that article about Mexico City Metro Line 12 accident created compulsively by this user, , , , , , , , Charles IV of Spain, Spanish well-known artist that worked much in colonial Mexico, National Palace (Mexico), restore of "Additionally, the goddess is one of the Pre-Columbian motifs found in California Chicano Literature" in Ītzpāpālōtl, , Talk:Manuel Tolsá, Tamarindo (drink), nosense message with the "estúpido" Spanish word placed in the editing resume because for user "Tbhotch", sounds like "being some secure" --Jalapestra (talk) 23:05, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Recently new downgrades' targets by this user made after this request, in order: Cinema of Mexico, Jorge Negrete, Immaculate Conception Cathedral, Comayagua (possibly "LGBT victimism" Mexican downgrades' façade), Spanish America, Site of original mission and remaining ruins of La Purisima Mission (same as Comayagua Cathedral), List of political and geographic subdivisions by total area in excess of 1,000,000 square kilometers, Puerto Balandra, Baja California Sur, Mexican cuisine, user can made groups of 52 downgrades by new blocked users. Jalapestra (talk) 23:32, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * ,, closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 23:40, 30 August 2022 (UTC)