Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jd22292/Archive

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JD22292 has edited Wikipedia logged in and out over the past 10 months, switching between the two to avoid controversy, feigning a “fresh start”, getting his IP range blocked for several months, and finally evading that block by switching back to his original account yesterday. The connecting thread is the topics he has edited, particularly the Monstercat page, and the geoip data of these logged out addresses matching his claimed location. (This abides by the rules of WP:OUTING as he publicly states he lives in Port St Lucie, Florida on his talk page. For example, his talk page currently links to his twitter, which has “Port St Lucie, FL” in the location section)

On January 20, he edited his talk page stating “I can safely say that this is my last edit on the encyclopedia.” On this very same day, one of the IP addresses (that gets blocked later, see below) makes its first edit, and 3 days later, makes its first edit to Monstercat.

He explained why he was leaving here, on January 25.

Over the next few months, he stuck with this plan… more or less. Other than this edit, jd22292 only edited his own talk page with updates. Edit messages included “Goodbye for now” and “Looks like I’m not going to be back for a while longer”.

On May 23, he edited his talk page admitting to having switched between logged in and logged out to make a clean start, and apologized on his talk page. ''“I am now aware of the mistakes I have made which cannot be undone. While an apology could be warranted, I am also aware that the community's trust in me has all but disappeared due to actions made during these past few months … I have knowingly edited while logged out as an attempt to make a clean start. Sadly, it has seemed apparent that this hasn't worked (See Geolocate data for related IP ranges).”'' He took this back 38 minutes later, and restored his talk page with an added statement at the top saying he was considering making a clean start. This is apparently due to some encouragement he received on his User_talk page suggesting he make a fresh start “under a new name or as an IP”.

He continued to edit the Monstercat page (and related pages) while logged out from an IPv6 range (see below). He did make one mistake, editing this page as JD22292, which he then reverted about an hour later from his logged out IP, and re-reverted from the same IP.

On September 24, his IP range was blocked for 3 months by. However he still continued to edit, now back under his original account JD22292. So much for a fresh start? Yesterday he has returned to JD22292 in full, making a flurry of edits (including one to Monstercat Uncaged Vol. 2, and one to the article about a specific Monstercat song, Harpoon). This is evasion of the 3 month block, which is still in effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Clean_start

“A clean, or fresh start, is when a user stops using an old account in order to start fresh with a new account. The two most common reasons for wanting a clean start are recognizing past mistakes, and avoiding harassment. The old account must be clearly discontinued, and the new account must avoid editing patterns or behaviors that would allow other users to recognize and identify the account. It is expected that the new account will be a true "fresh start", will edit in new areas and avoid old disputes, and will follow community norms of behavior.”

JD22292 started a sockpuppet investigation into me and a friend earlier in January. The dispute that caused him to take this action was on the Monstercat page, in which I was attempting to add a new artist, and he was removing it. I was only unbanned day before yesterday, October 23, in a decision by the arbitration committee (it’s a VERY long story). This is the day before he resumed editing under JD22292, which I believe to just be a strange coincidence? He has not avoided old disputes, and he has not edited in new areas. He has continually reaffirmed his control over the Monstercat page (as JD22292, as an IP range, and now back as JD22292), and not allowing other people to substantially change it.

Furthermore, “A clean start is not permitted if there are active bans, blocks or sanctions (including, but not limited to those listed here) in place against the old account.” There are blocks against his IPv6 range, and he has returned to the JD22292 account. I am requesting CheckUser to verify that he is in fact evading this IP block.

Here are the links supporting the IP range edits. Note that every single IP address geoips to his town, and every single one has edited the Monstercat page.


 * Overall IP range contributions:
 * Matches jd22292’s patterns of editing.
 * First and foremost, Monstercat and related EDM artists
 * NFL
 * “List of furry conventions”
 * He states on the jd22292 user page that he has contributed to this significantly
 * Accusing other editors of sockpuppetry
 * No seriously.
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 * Edited Monstercat, List of furry conventions, his (jd22292)’s own user page, various Monstercat artists
 * This is the longest lived IP address, he used it from January 20 (the day he said jd22292 would make its last edit) to September 12
 * 
 * Edited Monstercat, Nick Jr, Kidz Bop, Hardwell & Friends
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 * Edited Monstercat, Trap nation, 2018 nfl season
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 * Edited Monstercat, Kelly Sweet
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 * Edited Monstercat, Grabbitz, Aiobahn, misc articles (decades in the 1500s through 1700s??)
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 * Edited Monstercat, Zero Records, Zulu Records
 * Edited on sept 4
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 * Edited Monstercat, Mountain Creek Waterpark, David L Katz
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 * Edited Monstercat, IGN, Olivia EP
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 * Edited Monstercat, Connecting the Dots EP, Rocket league x Monstercat vol 1
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 * Edited Monstercat, Future Bass, Olivia EP, NoCopyrightSounds

Leijurv (talk) 21:51, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Hmm this is interesting... My edit to the Monstercat page from January (that was reverted by Jd22292 and reported for sockpuppetry) was just added back by this IP with the edit message "Leijurv and Jd22292, can you both please be mature about this and discuss this change?"

This IP is IPv4 while all the others are IPv6 but it still places in Florida (admittedly not the same specific town though). It's edit history is exclusively electronic music. For example here it corrects a page that was most recently edited by one of the suspected IPv6 sockpuppets of Jd22292. The page was then edited by the actual Jd22292 account 4 hours later. The message seems awfully familiar for a random edit dispute from over nine months ago, leading me to suspect this is certainly related to this investigation, and could very well likely be Jd22292 under yet another identity, trying to downplay or defuse this by calling us to be mature and discuss it. I don't particularly care if Nitro Fun is added to that bullet list, it's trivial. It misses the point. It's not about that edit, it's about sock puppetry. In fact, I suspect the previous four edits to Harpoon are ALL Jd22292, under his account, or under various Florida IP addresses (the previously mentioned IPv6 ranges, as well as this IPv4 address).

That same IP (66.87.148.136) also made another edit today (October 26) to the WikiProject for Video Games Requests page, reverting changes Jd22292 made in January 2018. The last edit by 66.87.148.136 before Oct 24, 2018 was in December 2015. The three-year gap that this IP took between edits is rather suspicious. I have added this IP to the list above.

A few hours before making the Monstercat edit, this same IP had removed some of Jd22292s requested pages for creation. This was about three hours after I notified Jd22292 on his talk page about this investigation, perhaps he only noticed then? Could this be a low effort last second attempt to make it look like this IP and Jd22292 are different people, before calling for us to reconcile? Removing some work Jd22292 had done 10 months previously? If not sockpuppetry, could this perhaps be meatpuppetry?

Furthermore, the connection between the currently-blocked IPv6 range and Jd22292 is no longer even a question - see this edit summary with the message "These were created as redirects to Music of Rocket League instead. (Edit by Jd22292; part of a clean start process)." Not only is this proof of ban evasion, as Jd22292 returned to his original account after the IPv6 range was (and is) blocked, I believe this is enough proof to show sockpuppetry and clear failure to abide by the rules of WP:Clean_start, as the Jd22292 account has made edits after the IPv6 range has made edits (and got banned), even on the SAME page in the case of Harpoon.

Finally, the return to the Jd22292 account isn't a mistake, it's intentional, as Jd22292 made an edit the day after this investigation was started, October 25, to his user page with the edit message "Kind of obvious I'm still around"

Leijurv (talk) 05:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Since it can be safely said that this is a not a fresh start at all, I further suspect MicroPowerpoint could be a long term alt, sockpuppet, or meatpuppet of JD22292. If it's possible to reopen the CheckUser request just between Jd22292 and MicroPowerpoint, I'd like to do so.

First and foremost, they have an unbelievably correlated edit history. There are ten pages where Jd22292 and MicroPowerpoint have both edited in a less than 10 minute span. Both are very active in Monstercat, Monstercat albums, Monstercat artists, etc. Of course, both have edited Monstercat less than 1 minute apart. The combined timeline between the two accounts just on the monstercat page is interesting. Recently they have been trading off. For example Jd22292 edited almost exclusively from Jan 1 to Jan 20, then MicroPowerpoint took over custodianship of the Monstercat page from Feb 9 to present. Before Jan 1, their edits were interleaved throughout 2017.

This applies to various pages that have just one or two edits from them, for example. MicroPowerpoint uploads a new version of the photo, then two minutes later Jd22292 requests deletion of the old orphaned versions.

Here is one example of collusion and these accounts supporting each other's edits: JD22292 asks if a certain source is applicable and asks MicroPowerpoint and another user, after a few hours of no response MicroPowerpoint responds positively "Oh yes, it looks like we could get a lot more out of this source. Use it for the recording studio for now and try to get a good statement about the writing process out of the interview."

On that page (Vantablack EP), 5 of the 6 edits are directly by Jd22292. The remaining one is a page move requested by a logged out IP, and carried out by an unrelated user. What IP requested this move? It starts with 66.87.148.___! Just like the other IPv4 address (66.87.148.136) that I suspect is JD22292 in disguise, it starts with those three groups, geoip's to Florida and Sprint PCS (perhaps a mobile hotspot... devious, an easy way to get a new IP...).

Looking back at the Monstercat page, my eyes have been opened... a significant portion of these edits are Jd22292 in some way or another, directly logged in, logged out, through a sockpuppet/meatpuppet... 66.87.148.*** MicroPowerPoint 2606:589:8000:2ed0:*** JD22292

Leijurv (talk) 06:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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Well then. I’m actually surprised you think I’m a sock puppet. When I got an email saying that someone commented on my talk page, this isn’t what I was expecting, so let’s get on with this.

1. The time span between JD’s and my own edits mean nothing. We are simply active in the same area, which is electronic music (mostly centred around Monstercat) and ( I’m guessing here) that we both check Wikipedia frequently, usually to approve or change edits on our watch list.

2. The timeline of the custodianship of the Monstercat article is purely coincidental, JD just became less active and I became more active during that time.

3. About the new photo version thing, I uploaded a better version and JD requested deletion of the old one because that’s what you do. The old one is useless, so you nominate it for deletion, plus why would anyone switch between accounts to do that?

4. The discussion about the source on Vantablack is normal. You said “after a few hours of no response MicroPowerpoint responds”. What’s so suspicious about that? That no one responded within an acceptable time? He asked a question and I answered.

There are multiple things I could show to easily prove that you are wrong. For instance, on the Ancient and Arcane article, JD made a fairly simple article, nothing wrong. I saw this page since it was linked on to the Monstercat page and I did a fairly large addition to it. Why would someone switch accounts to do that? It doesn’t really make sense.

Both JD’s and my own edits do share pages in the watch list, but ours only correlate in a small section in a large venn diagram. JD has some interest in video game articles while I have no interest as I do not know how to make a video game article. I’ve been fairly busy with my own Saving Light article, trying to get it to featured article status. As far as I know, JD didn’t contribute to the featured article or good article nominations at all. Why not? Because we aren’t the same person. Micro (Talk) 06:54, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * While the IPs might be Jd, I don't see any wrongdoing as there is no policy against editing while logged out and the range block likely isn't specifically for him, thus it can't be an attempt to block-evade. Flooded  with them hundreds 07:01, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I have already declared several of the 2601:589:8000:2ed0::::/64 IPs as belonging to me via their respective Talk pages. When the range was blocked (which was anon only btw), I had thought Bbb23 had done so simply to put me under the expectation to log in, as one of the IPs had exhibited WP:HOUND behaviour on another user the day before the range was blocked. This was the exact same behaviour had warned me about back in January, specifically reverts and reports to AIV. Tbh, I was prepared for this investigation, given the off-wiki harassment on my YouTube channel back in May/June. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk &bull;&#32;contribs) 10:25, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Of the ten IPv6 addresses I listed above that have edited Monstercat alongside your normal account, only one declares that it's owned by you. Perhaps could explain why this range was blocked? Looking at the contributions I don't see any harassment in the days leading up to the block, could you share with me what you're referring to there? Other than editing normal articles, that IP range appears to have just started a sockpuppet investigation against EricE549. It seems presumptuous to assume that an IP block against your IP range was not intended to actually stop you from editing, no? The edit history from that blocked IP range in the week leading up to the ban is almost entirely Monstercat, Monstercat related artists, NFL, etc. It also seems a tad disingenuous to put a notice on your user page saying you're considering a fresh start, then switching back to the original account once your IP range gets blocked? Especially since you continued to edit identical pages, just now under the guise of a new identity. Leijurv (talk) 18:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * All right. It looked very similar to me, but if you are different people I do apologize for wasting your time. Leijurv (talk) 15:23, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay.

Thank you again for unblocking me. Leijurv (talk) 20:10, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - CheckUser evidence cannot be used to connect IP addresses to registered accounts. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:07, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There is no case here. Considering I unblocked you, my recommendation to you is to stick to editing for the time being. Learn the ropes of Wikipedia. --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 20:02, 29 October 2018 (UTC)