Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JesusWins777/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
First two do genealogies of Biblical characters, while the third does Biblical characters in general; the second does unsourced Anno Mundi for Old Testament characters (e.g., , , more examples can be given), while the third does unsourced Anno Domini for New Testament characters (e.g. , , , more examples can be given); none of the three uses edit summaries (as a rule of thumb), evidence: , and ; hard evidence:  wherein they insert the very same genealogy (that 398 bytes edit). Oh, yes, JesusWins777 is now indeffed. For them, if they repent, it is very easy to get unblocked&mdash;but they have not repented.

Punch cards:


 * JesusWins777: very rarely active 13:00-18:00 UTC;
 * Jehoiakimin: generally offline 15:00-22:00 UTC;
 * HIPPOCLIDES: generally offline 07:00-19:00 UC.

None of them keeps the Sabbath (neither Saturday nor Sunday). I don't keep the Sabbath either, so this isn't WP:NPA.

They learned nothing from, same as JesusWins777, who was warned at least four times to use edit summaries. I have issued them another warning at and it would be quite peculiar (WP:DUCK) if the same behavior gets repeated. This prediction came true (except once), so it's definitely WP:DUCK. I also warned the other at, see if they learn anything from it. If they don't, it's WP:DUCK again. And again my prediction came true: they learned nothing from it, so it's definitely WP:DUCK. Warned them again at.

A fleeting glimpse of awareness at : I forgot about my edit summary, I will blocked unless I use it. Sounds like WP:DUCK to me, seen what happened to JesusWins777 because they refused to provide edit summaries. Hint: neither me, nor anyone else told them they will be blocked if they don't use edit summaries. I mean, JesusWins777 was told that by, but not Jehoiakimin.

To sum up: they are all three performing similar edits in theological articles, and all three are exceedingly refractory to using edit summaries. tgeorgescu (talk) 06:58, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * . I ran the first two users (JesusWins777 and Jehoiakimin) because they made an identical edit here and here, and the third user due to the overall evidence (lack of edit summaries, and edits to the same articles and area). Two of the users are in the same country, but very very far apart and using different ISPs and devices to connect (No VPNs or other services were reported by tools). Some devices are similar, but very common to see in their region. The other user is in a completely different region - no VPNs detected that I could find. There's just no technical similarity or pattern that's unique or unambiguous that I could gather to draw that these accounts are operated by the same person.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   23:59, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Closing without action given the CU results. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 21:46, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
I can bet Adrianopolitan378 is the Toronto IP which left an angry message on my talk page. Timing seems to show it. Adrianopolitan378's edits suddenly stopped just after the IP got range blocked. Why did they get so angry? Because history seems to be repeating itself, as I will explain. Adrianopolitan378 edits Christian topics, pretty much like JesusWins777 (common ground: historical articles about Christianity, with emphasis upon the Antiquity), and Adrianopolitan378 is also very reluctant to use edit summaries (thing which got JesusWins777 indeffed). I warned Adrianopolitan378 to use edit summaries, which seems to have produced their anger. They saw it happening again. Otherwise there was no reason for a newbie to get extremely angry because being told to use edit summaries. Yup, they reacted (Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:139B:769C:D053:27BE:743:6BBA) a few minutes after I issued them the warning. Hint: the WP:FRINGE warning was issued 50 minutes before that, so they had plenty of time to react thereupon, yet they didn't. Yup, they were making edits during that time, then they took pause, so it is unlikely they didn't read the fringe warning before getting the edit summaries warning. Assuming that these two events (rapid angry reaction, and ceasing their edits) were due to some other random person posting at my talk page would be foolish. While there could be some other person, an WP:LTA with whom I had a conflict, the timing is too narrow, and the coincidence too big to be mere randomness.

I'm not asking the checkuser to check if Adrianopolitan378 is the Toronto IP, but whether there is enough similarity to JesusWins777. AFAIK there is a Checkusers Wiki where such results are stored.

Speak of the wolf, and there is its tail: Special:Contributions/2605:8D80:604:1D5E:2C42:CAE8:C888:2512, Special:Contributions/70.24.84.202. Copy/pasted from Sockpuppet investigations/Korvex/Archive. Meaning: similar Toronto IPs as that which wrote the angry message upon my talk page. The IPv6 IP has now a /32 partial range block. /32 means 79,228,162,514,264,337,593,543,950,336 IPs. That is a whole ISP. A whole ISP got partially blocked due to some WP:LTA. Which is more "crazy": what I tell here, or blocking a whole ISP?

Edits with summaries:Korvex 85 · (21.5%) Editshmedt 257 · (25.6%). Tgeorgescu (talk) 15:08, 6 February 2021 (UTC) Copy/pasted from Sockpuppet investigations/Korvex/Archive.

My most recent three previous WP:SPI requests led to discovery of two sets of WP:SOCKS, and the one that did not discover any socks got nevertheless endorsed by the checkuser. It's not like flipping a coin, wherein the success rate of guessing the right result is 50%. If my SPI success rate is 50%, then I have a talent for detecting socks. It would be comparable to a 50% success rate at throwing six sixes (with the dice).

, you handled the Korvex SPI, please chime in.

Oh, I see, at 09:26 Adrianopolitan378 has resumed editing. Maybe they got another IP range. It can be checked. E.g. if I switch my modem to bridge mode, I will get another IP.

About having a different theology: in the Korvex SPI I have e-mailed the checkusers information that Korvex had a change of mind.

Note: I have warned Adrianopolitan378 twice about using edit summaries, they defiantly don't comply. That can be seen as an indication that I'm spot on with this SPI request. They are likely not willing to comply, unless an admin threatens them with a block. Gentle rational persuasion does not convince them to change their ways. I note that their edits 10:35 and after do use edit summaries. This SPI is public, so maybe they have read what I have stated here. tgeorgescu (talk) 16:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * is the most conclusive finding I can give you due to lack of data - Adrianopolitan378 consistently edits from a different continent than where the IPs are located that were previously checked for this case. As for your talk page, that comment was a known LTA who leaves similar comments on random users' talk pages, and I don't see any indication that the timing is anything but random coincidence. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)