Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jim-Siduri/Archive

04 September 2014

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Post by sockpuppet is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&diff=624210472&oldid=624208953

Posts by sockmaster before being indeffed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/Gender_gap_task_force&diff=prev&oldid=620011731

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lightbreather/Proposal&diff=prev&oldid=619804124

The quacking is unmistakable, but request CheckUser anyway. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:49, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

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 * We also have with one post to Talk:Siduri saying he or she loves her. Dougweller (talk) 21:53, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

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 * Whether it's meat puppetry or sock puppetry, AnonSiduri's veiled threats are disruptive in and of itself, so I've blocked the account. I don't think a checkuser is all that necessary here for a couple of reasons. We don't really need a technical confirmation here as the behavioral evidence is clear. Also, the user/meat account is keen on promoting a specific point of view and associating it with Jim Siduri's account, so current or future socks will become readily apparent as well. Best, Mike V  •  Talk  22:09, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * See CU results below. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

05 September 2014

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Obvious WP:DUCK socks of Jim-Siduri, who was blocked for general disruption, and for endless utterly clueless and obsessive efforts to promote an obscure character from a 4000-year-old epic as a means to start a new religion. It should be noted that there is precisely zero evidence that a 'Professor Pete Dyr' exists, except as Jim's alter ego - nothing on Google but Siduri-nonsense. Nothing on Google Scholar but the same. A professor who got that position without ever publishing anything? I think not... (Probably not relevant here, but he's been doing the same thing at multiple other websites - basically anywhere he can post his blather. Though he's not claimed that 'Dyr' is a professor elsewhere, which has to be further evidence he's making the whole lot up...). AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:46, 5 September 2014 (UTC) AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:46, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Jim-Siduri, AndySiduri and other ”puppets” of the Siduri movement are NOT manifestations of AndyTheGrump: 1) almost all of suspect IPs reside in the US, 2) AndyTheGrump's edits reside in the UK, 3) AndyTheGrump has been editing WP long before the Siduri problems started. AndySiduri IS a puppet, AndyTheGrump is NOT a puppet. Plus, Andy has long been the strongest opponent of the Siduri movement, but this in no way should be construed as evidence of him being a strawman sleeper account.

AndySiduri (talk) 20:09, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Struck lame attempt at CU impersonation above. Woodroar (talk) 20:20, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Just adding to the list after...whatever this is. Taunting? An offer of recruitment? Woodroar (talk) 23:15, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Another one: User:AndyIsAGoodMan - it is possible I suppose that this is a troll, rather than Jim-Siduri, but it makes no practical difference - clearly not here to do anything remotely useful. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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Added a known sock User:Gilgamesh-for-the-World and the just-created User:DidYouDoIt after this edit. Woodroar (talk) 04:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Added B-Nose, an account created to attack Robert McClenon. McClenon was discussing Jim Siduri on Jimbo's talk page, along with Jim Siduri, and B-Nose attacked McClenon for that participation. Binksternet (talk) 02:50, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Would a range block help keep this guy down? Binksternet (talk) 03:06, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * added Video-fan-clubs-for-Wiki Meters (talk) 18:53, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Can we add Video-fan-clubs-for-Wiki to the list? It is clearly the same person, as the name for the file linked in their first edit makes clear - SidurisAdvice.com is the website they use for promoting their nonsense. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:59, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

'''Another one: User:Fight-for-what-is-right. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:40, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

There are some other accounts that have posted on commons and wikiversity: User:Password-Siduri, User:Password-anonymous, User:PasswordTwilightZone, User:Siduri-Artwork, User:Professor-Peter-Dyr, as well as a few other IPs: 166.170.51.220, 166.170.50.82, 71.160.93.132, 149.142.83.254, 66.14.164.195, 169.232.212.162, 149.142.83.254. Some of the IPs might be meatpuppets (he was encouraging people on twitter to edit the wikiversity documents). --Ca2james (talk) 23:53, 10 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Password-anonymous and Siduri-Artwork are not registered accounts - please verify. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:30, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Siduri-Artwork is on commons and Password-anonymous is on wikiversity. There's a new commons account as well: User:LoveSiduri. --Ca2james (talk) 02:46, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Password-anonymous has been globally locked by Snowolf due to long term abuse. Mike V  •  Talk  03:07, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ca2james, I missed that part of your comment. It's been a long day... ​—DoRD (talk)​

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 * Added Wiki-proofer-and-tagger for the records. Given that it's a persisting issue and there are more socks than I originally believed, perhaps a checkuser would be helpful to weed out any other sleeper accounts. Mike V  •  Talk  19:07, 5 September 2014 (UTC)


 * All ✅:
 * ✅ to one another, but to the above:
 * ✅ to one another, but ❌ to either of the above groups:
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ to one another, but to the above:
 * ✅ to one another, but ❌ to either of the above groups:
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ to one another, but to the above:
 * ✅ to one another, but ❌ to either of the above groups:
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ to one another, but to the above:
 * ✅ to one another, but ❌ to either of the above groups:
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ to one another, but to the above:
 * ✅ to one another, but ❌ to either of the above groups:
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ to one another, but ❌ to either of the above groups:
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ to one another, but ❌ to either of the above groups:
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * . Most accounts are blocked at this time. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:27, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 * All accounts involved have been blocked and tagged. Mike V  •  Talk  15:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

21 October 2014

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Same Siduri nonsense Neil N  talk to me 17:27, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * Account blocked by HJ Mitchell. Mike V  •  Talk  19:49, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

27 October 2014

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias%2FGender_gap_task_force&diff=631338218&oldid=631269354

Note reference to Siduri, which is the quacking of banned troll Jim-Siduri. (That is, the editor was originally a well-meaning but deeply clueless editor, but has now become a troll.)

Sock has already been blocked, and is being reported here only to add to the sock-puppet investigation. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * I ran a quick check for sleepers but didn't see anything. As the account is blocked I'm going to go ahead and close.

03 November 2014

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&diff=632301202&oldid=632296999

Both the user name and the quacking are indicative of the banned troll Jim-Siduri. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:12, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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Added "Gem"'s IP per this note on my Talk page. Woodroar (talk) 18:40, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * CU at Commons on this account was inconclusive: c:Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Jim-Siduri.  INeverCry   20:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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 * I've already blocked him as an obvious duck. As such, I'm not sure what good a CU can do us here unless they think poking around for sleepers is worthwhile.  This is not without merit, based his "two days left" countdown and previous IP socking, but I'm neutral to doing so.  Dennis - 2&cent; 17:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Checkuser doesn't reveal anything we don't already know. As has already blocked the account and we have somehow managed to avoid the apocalyptic prophesies related to a date which has now passed, I'm closing this.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots  22:45, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

02 January 2015

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An obvious sock, per WP:DUCK. Pushing the same material at Siduri, and note the username -Jim-Siduri is trying to start a religion around this obscure character from the Epic of Gilgamesh. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC) AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

And incidentally, concerning 1=I-believe-in-HER's other edits, to Talk:Anonymous (group), JIm_Siduri seems to have something an obsession with this group too - he has repeatedly appropriated their 'we are legion' slogan for his own deranged rants. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * Likelihood is 99.99999% in my opinion. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  02:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Exactly 10 edits to Talk:Anonymous (group) before editing the semi-protected Siduri. As this is an account that has been dormant since November, how about using the Checkuser spell to look for more sleepers too? Squinge (talk) 09:22, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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Already blocked and tagged by. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:13, 3 January 2015 (UTC)