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For nearly a week now, I have been engaged in a dispute with a series of IPs at the article Hans-Hermann Hoppe, visible in the revision history of that article and on its talk page. I will not go into unnecessary detail about the dispute. Suffice it to say that, among other things, the IPs want to include certain content in the article that in my opinion should not be included. In the course of the various exchanges that have taken place in edit summaries at the article, the IPs, all of which geolocate to Oregon, never gave any indication that they were anything other than multiple IPs being used by a single person. IP 128.193.154.118 strongly implied that it was being used by the same person who had earlier edited as 73.96.114.255 and 73.96.114.231 because it referred to their edits as "my edits" in an edit summary. However, after I requested a third opinion about the dispute, Erpert asked whether the IPs were all being used by the same person or not, and the answer "no" was provided on the talk page by IP 128.193.154.20. The "no" from 128.193.154.20 was eyebrow raising, because the address is very similar to 128.193.154.118, who had earlier implied that it was the same person who had edited as 73.96.114.255 and 73.96.114.231. 128.193.154.118 and 128.193.154.20 are apparently part of the same IP range and as such are most likely being used by the same person, but the former has effectively acknowledged being the same person as 73.96.114.255 and 73.96.114.231 while the latter has denied this. There is now a need for an investigation to determine whether sockpuppetry and/or meatpuppetry is taking place. Additional comments relating to this matter can be seen at Talk:Hans-Hermann Hoppe. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 04:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Though at first I was reverted only by IP accounts at Hans-Hermann Hoppe, on May 12, 2018 a brand new account - Jimbreeman3 - appeared and its very first edit was reverting me at the article, following the behavior of the IPs, and without comment or explanation. Given the similar behavior, it seems reasonable to suspect that the account is operated by someone previously editing as an IP or that the person using it has been recruited specifically to revert me at the article. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 11:00, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' I know for a fact that I'm not a sock puppet. However, the author of this article does use sock puppets and is trying to abuse Wiki policy and technology to suppress information they don't like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_FreeKnowledgeCreator


 * The unsigned comment above was made by 73.96.114.201. To 73.96.114.201 I suggest that instead of simply asserting that you are not a sock puppet, it would be more helpful if you could provide actual evidence that you are not a sockpuppet. There is no reason for me to respond to personal attacks and irrelevant comments. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 08:25, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The burden of proof is not on me to prove that I am not a sock puppet. I never edited Hoppe's page before today. If someone is using sock puppets, why would they need so many? Seems excessive.73.96.114.201 (talk) 08:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Your position requires one to accept that the article on Hoppe is currently, by pure coincidence, being edited by multiple people all of whom use IP addresses that geolocate to Oregon and all of whom happen to hold exactly the same views as you on Hoppe, a comparatively obscure scholar. Please understand that this seems highly unlikely. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 08:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * You're making up the part about us holding the same views. I don't know what all of the person's/people's last edits were. I wasn't involved in the back and forth editing I can see on the revision page. I just came upon some broken links and not-neutral language while browsing Wiki and wanted to fix it. At least take me off this, please. I don't know if the others are puppets. I even see I UNDID some of their edits because they were obviously not neutral.73.96.114.201 (talk) 09:12, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * No, I am not making it up. Anyone who reviews the article's revision history can see a series of IP addresses all supporting the same views, and repeatedly restoring the same content that I removed. Although you claim not to have edited the article before today, the article was edited as long ago as 5 May by the IP addresses 73.96.114.255 and 73.96.114.231 - evidently part of the same IP range as yours. You have, just recently, modified some of your edits and removed certain content, but only after I started this sockpuppet investigation and pointed to behavioral evidence linking you to other IPs. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 09:21, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * What's your theory? Why would one person have 17 IP addresses in Oregon? How is that even possible?73.96.114.201 (talk) 09:27, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * So far as I know only 8 IP addresses are involved, not 17. Perhaps you have heard of dynamic IPs? When you edit Wikipedia while logged out, your IP address does not necessarily remain exactly the same. If you have a dynamic IP address, your address shifts within a certain range, varying slightly but keeping the initial numbers. From the IP address article: "IP addresses are assigned to a host either dynamically at the time of booting, or permanently by fixed configuration of the host hardware or software. Persistent configuration is also known as using a static IP address. In contrast, when a computer's IP address is assigned newly each time it restarts, this is known as using a dynamic IP address." FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 09:35, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Have you considered the possibility of the hosts being bik and having like 100000 people on each73.96.114.201 (talk) 09:39, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * That simply takes us back to your implausible claim of someone in Oregon editing from the same IP range as you and having the same opinions about one comparatively obscure person. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 09:42, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * That simply takes us back to the fact that I've undone their edits and obviously don't agree with them 73.96.114.201 (talk) 09:50, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * You only modified (not undid, as you claim) "their" edits after I started the SPI and it became convenient for you to distance yourself from "them". FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 09:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I never wrote on here until after the sock puppet investigation began. So why would it be distance from them. 73.96.114.201 (talk) 09:55, 11 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I'll end this discussion, since it has gone on too long already; I apologize to the admin who will review it for its length. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 10:01, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * - Given the timing of edits and geolocation of IP's, it's fairly clear that this is all one person. Please block the registered account for a week for deceptively editing while logged out. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:39, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * has been blocked one week per your request. If the problem continues, other steps might be considered. I haven't semiprotected Hans-Hermann Hoppe yet, but that step is possible. EdJohnston (talk) 19:02, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

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For the record. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 14:56, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * ✅ sock. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 14:56, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

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Jimbreeman3, an account that was recently blocked indefinitely by DoRD for abusing multiple accounts, began his edits by reverting me at Hans-Hermann Hoppe, as part of a lengthy dispute at that article. Following Jimbreeman3's indefinite block on 3 June, 54shnaup was created on 9 June. Just as with Jimbreeman3, its very first edit was reverting me at Hans-Hermann Hoppe. The only subsequent edit in article space also involved reverting me. So here we go again. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 09:05, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * - . Please block the new sock indefinitely, and semi-protect the article on Hans-Hermann Hoppe. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:12, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  21:23, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Could I get you to also protect the article on Hans-Hermann Hoppe? This guy as a history of editing while logged out, and all non-AC edits to that page in the past few weeks have been theirs. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:35, 11 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I've semiprotected the Hans-Hermann Hoppe article per the socking concerns. EdJohnston (talk) 01:15, 12 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Closing. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:49, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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Jason Weinman is a new account that was created at 10:30 on 11 June, 2018, hours before 54shnaup, a sock of Jimbreeman3, was blocked. 54shnaup was under investigation as a possible sock of Jimbreeman3 at the time the Jason Weinman account was created, as can be seen from the previous SPI for Jimbreeman3; I first reported 54shnaup on 9 June, 2018. Like Jimbreeman3's original account, and all of his subsequent socks, this user is focused on having a conflict with me at the Hans-Hermann Hoppe article. He has edit warred with me there in a manner indistinguishable from Jimbreeman3's known socks; see here and here. I apologize in advance if my suspicion that Jason Weinman is a sock of Jimbreeman3 is mistaken; however, there are very good reasons to suspect that the account is indeed a sock. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 00:09, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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✅, blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:53, 15 July 2018 (UTC)